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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: never_retreat on October 14, 2012, 08:31:08 PM
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There are two types of people in this world, ones with a zombie plan and ones without - we call them lunch.
Walking dead season 3 premiers in 31 minute.
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Fracking awsome!
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How ling does a minuet usually last? Cause 31 of them could take awhile.
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The only bummer was the last few minutes. Without giving a spoiler, I hope the person who looks like they might die, doesn't. I like that character.
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Dam spell check, How did I spell minute wrong twice?
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they have a big map of the area, that they have been using for a while it seems, and the prison isn't on it?
I would think you would investigate any place that has supplies/guns
& last season ending, why do they run out of gas surrounded by abandoned vehicles full of gas? & they are still using the same cars?
they didn't modify something into a zombie killer/transport vehicle by now?
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Walking dead season 3 premiers in 31 minuets.
Zombies dancing to chamber music? ;/
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This.....I have better things to do than watch nu-BSG with zombies....
Thank God for HELL ON WHEELS.....
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they didn't modify something into a zombie killer/transport vehicle by now?
They didn't _____ by now?
A. Make zombie armor
B. find more guns (frack, they made/found suppressors?!)
C. Find more ammo
D. Smack Lori enough to knock some sense into her
E. wash their clothes
F. Move more than a few miles? (the prison was nearby then..and now?)
I mean, seriously, they have enough Z killin' XP now that little Carl is a veritable zombie slayer, but none of the above?
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So first i read premiers as plumbers. Then I see the word "minuet" and "31", look back to discover it''s premier not plumber so niow I'm thinking it's about someone premiering some 31 minuets. Then I see "Walking Dead" and realize, finally, that it's about zombies. Now, how cool is that? :cool:
:laugh:
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There are two types of people in this world, ones with a zombie plan and ones without - we call them lunch.
:lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBRRxXNzkVw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBRRxXNzkVw)
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"They didn't _____ by now?
A. Make zombie armor
B. find more guns (frack, they made/found suppressors?!)
C. Find more ammo
D. Smack Lori enough to knock some sense into her
E. wash their clothes
F. Move more than a few miles? (the prison was nearby then..and now?)"
They addressed some of that.
A. I don't understand that either.
B. They have. Carol had a folder AK. But, as Hershel said, they are running dangerously low on ammunition. I still don't understand why they've not switched to .22s. Generally more readily available ammo and a lot quieter.
C. See above.
D. I still don't see why her character is the lightning rod for everyone's anger. For example, most people, when presented with the list that you've laid out, will look at it and then scream at the top of their lungs "IT'S ALL THAT STUPID BITCH LORI'S FAULT! FRAG HER! FRAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG THE ALBATROSS!"
Hell, Herschel had walkers in his barn, thought they were sick, and everyone looks at that and goes "Oh, Ok,I can see why he would do that."
Had Lori done it? "FRAG THE BITCHY ALBATROSS!"
E. Dirt makes convincing television.
F. They covered that in the show. They have been scavenging house to house, and there are apparently also numerous herds of walkers that they've been dodging.
Just for grins and giggles I did some mental math... Say 10% of the US population has survived. Given how the story is laid out I think that is really generous...
That's 35 million survivors.
But it's over 300,000,000 zomies.
Is it any wonder that they keep running short on ammo?
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Oh, Rick's suppressor? (I wondered how long it would take for them to get smart about that!)
Made from the body of a Maglight flashlight.
Pretty smart.
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Lori did have some sense smacked into her - she's now (apparently) making headshots on zombies at some respectable distance with her little revolver, and she's no longer hysterical about her kid carrying and using a gun. :O
Thing is, when they were going through the prison and bypassing the "dead" zombies without making sure they were down for the count, I knew - I mean, I just KNEW - someone was going to get bit.
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Zombies in full body armor. How's that for adding zest to your workout?
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"Thing is, when they were going through the prison and bypassing the "dead" zombies without making sure they were down for the count, I knew - I mean, I just KNEW - someone was going to get bit."
Once again, Lori's fault!
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There are two types of people in this world, ones with a zombie plan and ones without - we call them lunch.
I prefer to refer to them as Brain Biscuits. And I don't have a zombie plan. I have 42 zombie plans. :laugh:
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D. Smack Lori enough to knock some sense into her
It's only one show in, but if not smacking her, Rick must have done something. She was behaving herself and acting pretty subservient. Maybe it's that she's into bad boys and Rick looks to have become a tough guy. :laugh:
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I'm with Mike. Lori's done some stupid crap, but so have the other characters, and I don't understand the whole "damn Lori, it's all her fault" thing. She's no better or worse than any of the others. And I don't think she was acting subservient, I think she was acting like a woman who's a month or so away from giving birth to God knows what. The character I'm liking most at the moment is Darryl.
Good job on the suppressors - especially now that they're in a building with cement walls. It'll be a miracle if they're not all deaf when they get out of there. Good to see also that they're making use of the body armor.
I do understand the clothing thing - in the winter, wearing wet clothes until they dry would be a death sentence. What I don't understand is why, with all the creeks/lakes around, they couldn't wash their hands/faces.
Good episode though.
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Zombies in full body armor. How's that for adding zest to your workout?
Eh, NIJ Lvl-III or IV helmets are few and far between, and since head shots are the only ones that count I don't see it as that big of an issue. Get some AR's, slap cans on them and go to town.
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Okay so by and far EVERY house they have entered has zombies. Each time they enter and search a house for ammunition and more guns they face more risk.
Beyond that, anyone who survived to the point of realizing that they need to start popping zombies would have consumed ammunition.
Most people don't have stores and stores of ammo in their house. I'd venture to guess the average person on APS represents maybe 5% of the country (WAG, but judging by what I know about my nearest 6-10 neighbors....might be an overestimate).
Herds of zombies roaming sometimes in the hundreds. That's certainly another problem.
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Okay so by and far EVERY house they have entered has zombies. Each time they enter and search a house for ammunition and more guns they face more risk.
Beyond that, anyone who survived to the point of realizing that they need to start popping zombies would have consumed ammunition.
Most people don't have stores and stores of ammo in their house. I'd venture to guess the average person on APS represents maybe 5% of the country (WAG, but judging by what I know about my nearest 6-10 neighbors....might be an overestimate).
Herds of zombies roaming sometimes in the hundreds. That's certainly another problem.
As an APS representative example...
Loaded cartridges:
~1,400 7.62mm NATO
~1,050 7.62x39mm
~1,000 9mm
~800 5.56mm NATO
~500 7.62x54mmR
~500 .45ACP
~200 .30-06
~100 .50BMG
~50 .300WM
Components for:
1,200 150gr .308" FMJBT
500 77gr .224" SMK OTM
300 230gr .452" LRN
150 650gr .510" API
....oh, and 8,000+ of .22LR :P
If they stumbled across my apartment (assuming I had to GTFO without my entire cache) they'd be set for a while.
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Eh, NIJ Lvl-III or IV helmets are few and far between, and since head shots are the only ones that count I don't see it as that big of an issue. Get some AR's, slap cans on them and go to town.
I'm referring to the "guards" engaged hand to hand.
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"Dam spell check, How did I spell minute wrong twice?"
Spell check won't pick it up because minuet is the correct spelling for another word.
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Anyone notice that when Rick pulled the gas mask off the one zombie that its entire face degloved?
That leads to a very interesting possibility...
That, while rate of decay is very slow, they are decaying, and at some point the musculature that makes these things mobile is going to rot away.
That, however, leads me to a continuity point I've had since the end of last season...
As Jenner said, the brain restarts enough to get the zombies going again, which means that the brain is sending nerve impulses to the muscles. We saw that yesterday when Mishon decapitated the zombies in the store and the bodies were immobile, but the one zombie's skull was still alive and kicking.
That said... how the hell was Randall up and mobile at the end of last season?
Randall was the one whose neck Shane broke...
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....As Jenner said, the brain restarts enough to get the zombies going again, which means that the brain is sending nerve impulses to the muscles. We saw that yesterday when Mishon decapitated the zombies in the store and the bodies were immobile, but the one zombie's skull was still alive and kicking.
That said... how the hell was Randall up and mobile at the end of last season?
Randall was the one whose neck Shane broke...
Well, this is not really a totally satisfactory answer, but just because a neck is "broken" doesn't mean the spinal cord has been severed. THAT'S what conducts the nervous impulses that control the body.
Having said that, one might think that such a body, moving around enough, the broken vertebrae in the neck would manage to severe the spinal cord, or damage it to the point it wouldn't function. Inflammation the the spinal cord will produce temporary paralysis ... but OTOH how things work in a zombie ..... ???
I did notice the degloved face. Icky! [barf]
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But if the neck has been broken badly enough to cause death, that means that there has been signficant disruption of the nerve pathways from the instance of the break.
You simply cannot break a neck specifically enough that it paralyzes respiration but leaves the individual fully mobile as Randall's zombie was.
At very best, you'd have zombie that could paint a picture with its left foot....
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Oh, and let's not even talk about the fact that when they sink a brush hook or clever into the front of a zombie's skull they're not coming anywhere remotely close to disrupting the brain stem.
They are, essentially, hacking dead tissue and the zombie should still be fully capable of running down some human tartare...
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But if the neck has been broken badly enough to cause death, that means that there has been signficant disruption of the nerve pathways from the instance of the break.
You simply cannot break a neck specifically enough that it paralyzes respiration but leaves the individual fully mobile as Randall's zombie was.
At very best, you'd have zombie that could paint a picture with its left foot....
I did say it was an unsatisfactory answer . . . right? [tinfoil]
The whole zombie thing really doesn't make any sense from the get-go anyway. How do you "re-animate" a dead body by just activating the brain? The whole body is a metabolizing machine. You breath and take in oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide, eat to obtain "fuel." Zombies apparantly don't breath as they can walk around underwater (according to some zombie fiction atleast). Some need "brains." The walkers apparantly muscle tissue.
But all the time their bodies are decaying.
So, on one level, worrying about broken necks seems a bit superfluous. It doesn't make sense a zombie with a neck as broken as you suggest should be able to move .... but then, the whole zombie thing just should not work.
But then, there'd be no AMC series and where's the fun in that? ? ? ? [popcorn] [tinfoil] :laugh: :rofl:
Oh, and let's not even talk about the fact that when they sink a brush hook or clever into the front of a zombie's skull they're not coming anywhere remotely close to disrupting the brain stem.
They are, essentially, hacking dead tissue and the zombie should still be fully capable of running down some human tartare...
I think you're over-analyzing the problem. :police: Crunching up even "dead" brain tissue might not sit well in zombiedom. :lol:
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Uhm... excuse me, I think you are WAY overthinking this...
:rofl: :rofl:
As I said, it's a continuity issue in a TV show, so it's no shock.
But it vexes me, it vexes me.
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OK OK.....let's just go back to enjoying the stupid show, OKAY? :police: :angel: [ :rofl: ]
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Yep. Actual zombies would require a suspension of belief. Or something wwwwaaaayyyyy beyond our current understandings of medicine, science and nature.
Poking a hole in unsound tactics, that's another matter ;)
I think corraling or drawing the zombies out of hiding would be the prudent thing to do when you're in a dark enclosed space. Use of a barrier you can poke them through or even the rudimentary use of a fatal funnel. Lighting your way with something, anything, anyone?
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"Actual zombies would require a suspension of belief."
No, not really, considering most of the Liberals whom I know.
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"Actual zombies would require a suspension of belief."
No, not really, considering most of the Liberals whom I know.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Quoted for truth. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I am mostly upset about their tactics in the prison. It just seemed like they were making random turns, marking their way back. There are solid doors and bars; Use them! It should have been a slow and methodical process. Clear a section, lock it off. Lather rinse, repeat; orderly retreat as necessary. Things get rough, close yourself in a jail cell and pointy stick stabbity stabbity. Handcuffs and other restraints are great for high quality on the fly locks. I was rather upset when the half dozen of them stumble onto about a like number of zombies and then just run away. They found all the riot gear and were using poleaxes before. Its a darn hallway and they have some folks in decent shape. Shield the advance, pop em (pointy stick, cross bow, whatever). As long as you aren't flanked the number of zombies could be in the dozens without causing any major risk in the engagement.
I'd venture to guess the average person on APS represents maybe 5% of the country
Once the zombies rise I think our percentage will climb quite a bit >:D
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I am mostly upset about their tactics in the prison. It just seemed like they were making random turns, marking their way back. There are solid doors and bars; Use them! It should have been a slow and methodical process. Clear a section, lock it off. Lather rinse, repeat; orderly retreat as necessary. Things get rough, close yourself in a jail cell and pointy stick stabbity stabbity. Handcuffs and other restraints are great for high quality on the fly locks. I was rather upset when the half dozen of them stumble onto about a like number of zombies and then just run away. They found all the riot gear and were using poleaxes before. Its a darn hallway and they have some folks in decent shape. Shield the advance, pop em (pointy stick, cross bow, whatever). As long as you aren't flanked the number of zombies could be in the dozens without causing any major risk in the engagement.
Once the zombies rise I think our percentage will climb quite a bit >:D
Five percent and proud!! [ar15]
Also ditto to the tactics. But then again, if they took your APS'er and asked him for tactical advice you might as well rename the show to "The ReDeaded."
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Five percent and proud!! [ar15]
Also ditto to the tactics. But then again, if they took your APS'er and asked him for tactical advice you might as well rename the show to "The ReDeaded."
Yep.
Although, just the taking of the prison shows a real honest shift in thinking and tactics. Defensible, securable, with enough areable land to use for growing things.
Any supplies found in the prison, of course.
Back up generators might be usable to even restore power.
Prison should have vehicles as well. Busses, vans, trucks, farm equipment. Tools, all kinds of stuff.
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Yep.
Although, just the taking of the prison shows a real honest shift in thinking and tactics. Defensible, securable, with enough areable land to use for growing things.
Any supplies found in the prison, of course.
Back up generators might be usable to even restore power.
Prison should have vehicles as well. Busses, vans, trucks, farm equipment. Tools, all kinds of stuff.
And the preview suggests they're setting up a fight over all those goodies...
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Yep.
Although, just the taking of the prison shows a real honest shift in thinking and tactics. Defensible, securable, with enough areable land to use for growing things.
Any supplies found in the prison, of course.
Back up generators might be usable to even restore power.
Prison should have vehicles as well. Busses, vans, trucks, farm equipment. Tools, all kinds of stuff.
Generators are nice, but the fuel is at this juncture a non-renewable resource. Good to have in a pinch, but I'd start by salvaging any car batteries I could lay my hands on and build a solar/wind turbine system.
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Generators are nice, but the fuel is at this juncture a non-renewable resource. Good to have in a pinch, but I'd start by salvaging any car batteries I could lay my hands on and build a solar/wind turbine system.
Walker bio-diesel?
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Walker bio-diesel?
Good point, though it might take a while to get it set up initially. Don't you need a buttload of sodium hydroxide for that? The flip side is your fuel walks to you. Excavate a big catch pit adjacent to one of the walls, occasionally have someone walk the wall to drag walkers around and into the pit. Setup a mobile crane with a big claw scoop. Grab and drop em in the processing vat as necessary.
I'm putting too much thought into a never-gonna-happen situation, aren't I? [tinfoil]
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I spent the whole weekend watching the second season before the third season first episode came on.
The whole gun thing confounds me.
It shouldn't take more than a few hours of scrounging to find a 10/22 and a thousand rounds of ammo for each being that the 10/22 is about the most popular .22 in America.
That much firepower should be able to decimate the biggest herds they run into in not time.
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I'm putting too much thought into
No.
a never-gonna-happen situation, aren't I? [tinfoil]
You sure? [tinfoil]
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Another thought for power, is there a nearby river? A simple water wheel rigged up to a bunch of scavenged alternators.
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If that's at all true, then it's another show I'm glad I didn't get sucked into. I find I'm starting to have some serious hate for all fiction on TV, even the "cool" stuff with cult followings on cable. ("Reality" TV? I'd chuck 95% of the contestants/people into a gas chamber as my first act as dictator of Earth as my first official act, don't get me started...)
I just don't care anymore. =|
The older I get, the more I find I can only enjoy documentaries and educational/historical/technical shows. This is problematic because the wife thinks "togetherness" is primarily watching shows together. Although in her defense, with four girls in bed by eight, it's not as if we could go out dancing or something...
When "Castle" and "How I met your Mother" run their course, I think things will be even worse for us.
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I am mostly upset about their tactics in the prison. It just seemed like they were making random turns, marking their way back. There are solid doors and bars; Use them! It should have been a slow and methodical process. Clear a section, lock it off. Lather rinse, repeat; orderly retreat as necessary. Things get rough, close yourself in a jail cell and pointy stick stabbity stabbity. Handcuffs and other restraints are great for high quality on the fly locks. I was rather upset when the half dozen of them stumble onto about a like number of zombies and then just run away. They found all the riot gear and were using poleaxes before. Its a darn hallway and they have some folks in decent shape. Shield the advance, pop em (pointy stick, cross bow, whatever). As long as you aren't flanked the number of zombies could be in the dozens without causing any major risk in the engagement.
I was thinking something similar...
When they were clearing the outside of the prison, they used some group tactics... What I immediately thought was 'phalanx.'
A few more shields up front could take up the entire width of the hallway, longer spears in back.... it should be easy and realatively safe to clear the prison.
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I was thinking something similar...
When they were clearing the outside of the prison, they used some group tactics... What I immediately thought was 'phalanx.'
A few more shields up front could take up the entire width of the hallway, longer spears in back.... it should be easy and realatively safe to clear the prison.
I also don't understand why they were clearing it in the first place. They saw a civilian non-inmate or prison guard walker corpse and figured there must be a hole in the prison; so they have to close it.
Its a prison, big old fences and gates around the whole thing.. Why don't they walk the perimeter to check for a hole? Once you've got that locked down and have one cell block cleared, it should be a slow and safe methodical operation; not some running through the hallways emergency.
Proper prior planning prevents predators perforating people prey. =D
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I also don't understand why they were clearing it in the first place. They saw a civilian walker corpse and figured there must be a hole in the cellblock; so they have to clear it.
Internet nitpicker point of order: Everyone in the prison was a civilian, unless it was a military prison. :P
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I also don't understand why they were clearing it in the first place. They saw a civilian non-inmate or prison guard walker corpse and figured there must be a hole in the prison; so they have to close it.
Its a prison, big old fences and gates around the whole thing.. Why don't they walk the perimeter to check for a hole? Once you've got that locked down and have one cell block cleared, it should be a slow and safe methodical operation; not some running through the hallways emergency.
Proper prior planning prevents predators perforating people prey. =D
Hmmmmm. I thought Sheriff Rick did that....it was remarked he'd circled the place repeatedly at one point.
As for the interior tactics .... I doubt anyone of them had any military experience. I wonder how a group consisting of a bunch of average Joe Off The Street would do. I don't think any of 'em would be mistaken for Seal Team Six.
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Here's a thought: Non-inmate in civvie clothes may have been a prison worker or visitor.
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I doubt anyone of them had any military experience.
Though interestingly, and it may have just been a form of expression, but in the very few minutes we saw Katana Woman, what's her name made a crack about her "being a good soldier". Perhaps she'll end up having a military background.
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"I also don't understand why they were clearing it in the first place."
They covered that.
They were trying to find two of the most critical things that they need right now -- food, as in the prison cafeteria, and medical supplies in the form of the infirmary.
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"I also don't understand why they were clearing it in the first place."
They covered that.
They were trying to find two of the most critical things that they need right now -- food, as in the prison cafeteria, and medical supplies in the form of the infirmary.
Yes, but contectually; Why they were treating it as a lets risk our lives emergency rather than a methodical, 'everyone knows your roles right?' operation? The pacing of survival seems... dramatic. :P
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"Why they were treating it as a lets risk our lives emergency rather than a methodical, 'everyone knows your roles right?' operation?"
Isn't the answer obvious?
It's that bitch Lori's fault! The very fact that she's in the vicinity means that their ability to formulate proper tactics has gone to zero!
Everyone is right! It IS her fault!
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Yes, but contectually; Why they were treating it as a lets risk our lives emergency rather than a methodical, 'everyone knows your roles right?' operation? The pacing of survival seems... dramatic. :P
Because. When you look at the program description it says so right there: drama.
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"Why they were treating it as a lets risk our lives emergency rather than a methodical, 'everyone knows your roles right?' operation?"
Isn't the answer obvious?
It's that bitch Lori's fault! The very fact that she's in the vicinity means that their ability to formulate proper tactics has gone to zero!
Everyone is right! It IS her fault!
See! She isn't the albatross, she's the frickin' Jonah!
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Yes, but contectually; Why they were treating it as a lets risk our lives emergency rather than a methodical, 'everyone knows your roles right?' operation? The pacing of survival seems... dramatic. :P
Too much story, not enough episodes.
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Can one the mods change the title please. After all this will be the most popular thread for the next 13 weeks. [popcorn]
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You have something against minuets?
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As for the interior tactics .... I doubt anyone of them had any military experience. I wonder how a group consisting of a bunch of average Joe Off The Street would do. I don't think any of 'em would be mistaken for Seal Team Six.
They've already survived for months, and were very methodical when clearing that house at the beginning of the episode. They also were fairly well organized when they bugged out. There was really no good reason for their experience and tactics to fail so miserably when they were trying to clear the prison interior, since the old adage "You live and learn - or you don't live long" applies.
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Doing what they were doing would NOT have required military experience, but Rick was a cop, and I suspect that he would have had at least some experience in doing building sweeps.
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Yes, but contectually; Why they were treating it as a lets risk our lives emergency rather than a methodical, 'everyone knows your roles right?' operation? The pacing of survival seems... dramatic. :P
You saw Rick throw away the dog food his son found and was preparing to eat, right?
They're starving. Not merely politely interested in the dainties of a well-filled larder.
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You saw Rick throw away the dog food his son found and was preparing to eat, right?
They're starving. Not merely politely interested in the dainties of a well-filled larder.
Good point.
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On a bet once I tried some Ken-L-Ration or Alpo or something.
Once you get past the concept of if being dog food, it wasn't bad.
Certainly better than Gefilte Fish or a couple of the MREs I've eaten over the years.
I think I would rather eat dog food than the owl Darryl chowed down on.
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Owl ....TASTES LIKE CHICKEN ....(if anyone gives a hoot). :angel:
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You saw Rick throw away the dog food his son found and was preparing to eat, right?
They're starving. Not merely politely interested in the dainties of a well-filled larder.
... was the dog food expired? Cause, if you're starving, EAT THE DOG FOOD.
Gives you more time to find better food.
More examples of "this show would be extremely short if massive stupidity were not showcased."
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You saw Rick throw away the dog food his son found and was preparing to eat, right?
They're starving. Not merely politely interested in the dainties of a well-filled larder.
Starving to me means being glad to have dog food... and hock of Hershel too for that matter >:D
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That's it! Ned doesn't get into the APS lair after the zombie apocalypse. He'll just stand around salivating over any limbs we might be forced to remove. Geesh.
I have a question though that's been bothering me since I saw the first few episodes.
I get that they're all infected and at death, will reanimate and be zombiefied. Get that. What I don't get is do the zombie bites/scratches CAUSE death, as well? I was a little surprised the other night when Rick said cutting off Herschel's leg was the only way to save him. If that's the case, why haven't there been a rash of amputations since the show started? Also, when they settled in their bunks for the night, Asian guy was checking Farmer's Daughter over for scratches. Will a scratch kill you or not? If so, then why bother cutting off Herschel's leg, unless it's just to feed Ned Hampford?
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Will a scratch kill you or not? If so, then why bother cutting off Herschel's leg, unless it's just to feed Ned Hampford?
While I think that a worthy goal in itself >:D I'm fairly certain it wasn't needed at all and was just another wildly bad decision made by this group. While Herschel was at the start the biggest cheerleader of the new dictatorship, I imagine having his leg cut off for not good reason will kinda sour that.
Drama!
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Also, when they settled in their bunks for the night, Asian guy was checking Farmer's Daughter over for scratches.
That was just an excuse. ;)
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If you remember from first season they talked about that some. The first guy Rock met said his wife had been bitten. She developed a super high fever and then died.
The same thing happened to Jim after he was bitten during the attack on the camp. Brenner art CDC said the same thing happened to his wife
Not scratches, but it seems to indicate it is spread by at least a bite like an infection.
So... If the are worried about it to that degree.... I also wonder why they have not adopted ersatz armour and the like.
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I don't think neck nuzzling and kissing is prudent with someone coated in zombie gore
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What's that perfume you're wearing?
Chazombie No. 5...
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I don't think neck nuzzling and kissing is prudent with someone coated in zombie gore
No kidding! Ewwwwww!
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I don't think neck nuzzling and kissing is prudent with someone coated in zombie gore
Yes. Special level of nasty that even I wouldn't do.
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And that's saying something.
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I don't think neck nuzzling and kissing is prudent with someone coated in zombie gore
I am absolutely certain that its a fetish for someone somewhere.
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I am absolutely certain that its a fetish for someone somewhere.
Ew.
Zombie pinups, anyone?
http://zombiepinups.com/
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I am absolutely certain that its a fetish for someone somewhere.
It is. And there's a specific Japanese term for it (of course). Thankfully, it's not something I know off the top of my head, so if you really want to know you can Google it. [barf]
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Did anyone notice the group of people on the other side of the half pulled down security fence near the end.
Did the happen to look like non zombies to anyone else.
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Yeah, and they were saying something, too.
They're apparently survivors who took refuge in the prison cafeteria.
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Yeah, and they were saying something, too.
They're apparently survivors who took refuge in the prison cafeteria.
"Holy *expletive deleted*it!" I believe the phrase was. And yes, about a half-dozen still living inmates.
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"Holy *expletive deleted*!" I believe the phrase was. And yes, about a half-dozen still living inmates.
living inmates in front and a bleeding out doc with one arrow in the door holding back the zombie horde, why do they make me wait for next week?
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living inmates in front and a bleeding out doc with one arrow in the door holding back the zombie horde, why do they make me wait for next week?
You know, when I first saw the prison I thought immediately: gold mine. A nice private retreat to use. No other living, and you can kill the dead at your leisure and fence of the remainder of the facility that you don't need.
I never in a million years figured that the inmates would be running the asylum. :laugh: Or at least, a few inmates would survive and hole up some where successfully. I'd think the guards would just whack the entire prison population once they started turning to zombies faster than the guards could control them. Or at least put everyone into their cells and never let them out.
Bad situational assessment on my part. I've been 100% on calling teh stoopidz in this show prior to this. Normally I do much better at detecting the dumbness that we all call The Walking Dead.
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I never in a million years figured that the inmates would be running the asylum. laugh Or at least, a few inmates would survive and hole up some where successfully.
Inmates have plenty of free time, we have to assume that some spend time thinking about the what-if of a zompocalypse, and some of them and some of those that are quick on their feet and with their wits are going to survive.
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Maybe the zombies in the cell blocks were originally locked up, but then the survivors had a falling out (guards vs. inmates?) and then the zombies were deliberately released by one side or the other in order to deal with the other side . . . instead of "Release the Hounds" it may have been "Release the Zombies."
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"Release the Zombies"
You really should send that to the people who write the Simpsons. That would be a GREAT Halloween gag for Burns to do... Smithers, Release the Zombies!
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That would be a GREAT Halloween gag for Burns to do... Smithers, Release the Zombies!
I totally read that in Burn's voice.
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I totally read that in Burn's voice.
Gotta love the automatic subvocalization in specific voices. :lol: And yeah, I did it to.
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Ha ha. That chart could diagram a LOT of TV shows.
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Only problem with that chart is that the green zone is WAY too small.
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Only problem with that chart is that the green zone is WAY too small.
...and there's only one ...... :laugh:
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I don't watch the show. Threads like these are entertaining enough, and take much less time.
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I don't watch the show. Threads like these are entertaining enough, and take much less time.
What is your wife's email address so we can let her know to make this the show that the TV gets switched to when you fall asleep? :P
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I'm just glad that Dish started showing it again!
Found out just before the show started last week.
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No matter how much I complain about The Walking Dead, it's WAY better than the stinker Syfi Channel movie I'm fast forwarding through right now, "Zombie Apocalypse".
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Just noticed a zombie in "Zombie Apocalypse" brushing back her hair as she shuffled along. Just got to love a walker concerned about her appearance.
eta: Watching "Rise of the Zombies" on Syfy. Now we know what happens to washed up TV and movie actors. They become zombies.
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eta: Watching "Rise of the Zombies" on Syfy. Now we know what happens to washed up TV and movie actors. They become zombies.
I had to give up 15 min into it.
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I had to give up 15 min into it.
It's so bad, so clichéd, it's almost comedic.
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It's so bad, so clichéd, it's almost comedic.
But unlike other cliched, b-level zombie films whose shenanigans are witty and humorous, it's shenanigans are just sad and cruel. Evil shenanigans! :rofl:
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I did finally give up on the silly thing. It got to be too much.
"Dawn of the Dead" is running now. I've seen that one a bunch, so giving it a pass this time.
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Nope.
Still not enough green, still not enough yellow.
I really think you could divide that thing into three lengthwise "tracks."
Top track would be entirely green.
Middle track would be mostly yellow broken by zones of grey.
The bottom track would be the remaining colors.
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well, who did not see the ambush of the nat guard unit coming from a mile away, Michonne seems like the smartest character yet.
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Michonne seems like the smartest character yet.
Yep.
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well, who did not see the ambush of the nat guard unit coming from a mile away, Michonne seems like the smartest character yet.
I won't say I saw it coming but that governor guy raised my hackles ..... not returning the weapons was a "clue"...
I don't think even Michonne has guessed the NG was ambushed. Not that she isn't smart, she is, but she does seem to have a chip on her shoulder.
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Anyone notice that the Governor shot that runner soldier with an M4 that... didn't have rear sights?
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Anyone notice that the Governor shot that runner soldier with an M4 that... didn't have rear sights?
I mentioned that to the wife when we were watching to show.
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Anyone notice that the Governor shot that runner soldier with an M4 that... didn't have rear sights?
Yes. And the Governor's aquarium freaked me out a little.
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Prediction: Teh wimminz are being detained for breeding. That guy reeks of "cult leader."
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Prediction: Teh wimminz are being detained for breeding. That guy reeks of "cult leader."
I wouldn't bet against ya there.
He see's himself as king of the brave new world!
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Anyone notice that the Governor shot that runner soldier with an M4 that... didn't have rear sights?
I think any APSer that was watching the show noticed.
Or should have. ;)
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I think any APSer that was watching the show noticed.
Or should have. ;)
Is it bad I rewound just to see if it had a rear flip down?
BTW I'm betting that was a real low end off the shelf setup.
Someone needs to kick the firearms advisor in the jimmy.
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Anyone notice that the Governor shot that runner soldier with an M4 that... didn't have rear sights?
The fact that anyone used a sight in Hollywood at all should be surprising....
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"Is it bad I rewound just to see if it had a rear flip down?"
No. I rewound too.
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Anyone notice that the Governor shot that runner soldier with an M4 that... didn't have rear sights?
;) Yes, in fact I did. I've seen that before on those cheapo Sy Fy movies. It makes me think "AIRSOFT!!!!"
Prediction: Teh wimminz are being detained for breeding. That guy reeks of "cult leader."
I think you're on to something . . . . . [popcorn]
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The fact that anyone used a sight in Hollywood at all should be surprising....
Touche.
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The fact that anyone used a sight in Hollywood at all should be surprising....
Good point.
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Oh did anyone catch the Governor's conversation with the geeky science guy? He did say that the dead are decaying, just at a slower rate then the living.
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Oh did anyone catch the Governor's conversation with the geeky science guy? He did say that the dead are decaying, just at a slower rate then the living.
I thought he said starving. Also read it in terms of "without food", not implying they were starving at that moment in time.
Chris
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I thought he said starving. Also read it in terms of "without food", not implying they were starving at that moment in time.
Chris
*expletive deleted*it. I already deleted it too. Ill see if I can pull it up online.
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*expletive deleted*. I already deleted it too. Ill see if I can pull it up online.
I took it to mean that the walkers with missing jaws were starving.
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#%#$#$ Killjoy. :mad:
Maybe it's zombie grass. . . . . .
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The zombies shuffling around all over the place have stomped it down. Also, with the zombie apocalypse and all going on, no one's been watering and fertilizing. So it grows slower.
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The zombies shuffling around all over the place have stomped it down. Also, with the zombie apocalypse and all going on, no one's been watering and fertilizing. So it grows slower.
Sorry, the answer was roving herds of zombie sheep, and you failed to phrase your answer in the form of a question.
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I dunno bout you, but I aint seen no sheep. And if there had been sheep or cows they'd have been fertilizing the grass and causing it to grow faster
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Illegals....doing the jobs that zombies won't....
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As the zombies decay, they're probably dripping a bit on the grass . . . enough to keep it green.
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Yes. And the Governor's aquarium freaked me out a little.
He is one sick puppy. I wonder what the outcome will be when he and Lori's insignificant other eventually clash?
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He is one sick puppy. I wonder what the outcome will be when he and Lori's insignificant other eventually clash?
If past is prologue, I should think a long, heated argument followed by a sudden, violent death. =D
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Yes. And the Governor's aquarium freaked me out a little.
I'm concerned by the looks Andrea keeps giving him. She has the potential to be the power-hungry sort. If she teams up with him, I will have completely lost all respect for the women in this show. Now if she's watching him to size him up and end his reign of terror, then I'll be happy.
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I'm thoroughly dismayed by this "Governor" character and his plan.
A world like this, a group of NG soldiers alive are worth far more than the piddly amount of gear in their trucks. Yeah, maybe they scored a few thousand rounds of ammo and half a dozen rifles or light machine guns. And a freaking pilot? That's worth a LOT. Same would go for farmers or ranchers or skilled machinists or carpenters. I bet those NG guys had some interesting MOS's between them. Valuable ones.
When the dead vastly outnumber the living, you don't go around killing more of the living unless you absolutely cannot come to some sort of peaceful arrangement.
The food in the back of those NG trucks won't last that community more than a week or two. Packaged stores of food around the country or the world won't do anyone any good pretty soon, due to spoilage or damage from foragers... it's time to rebuild something sensible. Time to do some large-scale gardening, greenhousing for the winters, scaling up to true farming the next year.
And every bullet spent ending the life of an unknown human with an unknown skillset, brings your community or even humanity that much closer to a full stop.
A pilot!?! He could scout the area in a 100 mile radius for salvageable tractors, disc plows, dairy farms with cattle still around them or fertilizer to collect, or whatever. And do it in a day.
Instead, the Governor got himself a backlit fishtank with another severed head. I dunno, maybe the pilot died naturally from his wounds. But I doubt it, given the way that the other NG soldiers were dispatched with no compunction.
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I was thinking about that and you know what detail you can focus on... they were deserters! When things got rough in their last settlement, when they were needed most, they grabbed the most important gear they could and abandoned everyone! And the thing about a deserter, they not only betrayed the last group, they could never be trusted to be a member of the new settlement; be it by their example or the risk they pose of repeating their betrayal. There are good reasons why deserters were killed by all sides historically... and in game of thrones.
Ned Hamford, Devil's Advocate >:D
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I was thinking about that and you know what detail you can focus on... they were deserters! When things got rough in their last settlement, when they were needed most, they grabbed the most important gear they could and abandoned everyone! And the thing about a deserter, they not only betrayed the last group, they could never be trusted to be a member of the new settlement; be it by their example or the risk they pose of repeating their betrayal. There are good reasons why deserters were killed by all sides historically... and in game of thrones.
Ned Hamford, Devil's Advocate >:D
I don't remember anything about them being deserters. When did that get revealed?
And in any case, Governor didn't come back to town and say "we delivered swift and sweet Justice upon a group of NG deserters." Instead he came back to town with the gear and said "oops, no one was left alive so we took these tools and supplies." Nevermind the whole pre-emptive killing and waving a white flag to create a false sense of security.
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I'm thoroughly dismayed by this "Governor" character and his plan.
A world like this, a group of NG soldiers alive are worth far more than the piddly amount of gear in their trucks. Yeah, maybe they scored a few thousand rounds of ammo and half a dozen rifles or light machine guns. And a freaking pilot? That's worth a LOT. Same would go for farmers or ranchers or skilled machinists or carpenters. I bet those NG guys had some interesting MOS's between them. Valuable ones.
When the dead vastly outnumber the living, you don't go around killing more of the living unless you absolutely cannot come to some sort of peaceful arrangement.
The food in the back of those NG trucks won't last that community more than a week or two. Packaged stores of food around the country or the world won't do anyone any good pretty soon, due to spoilage or damage from foragers... it's time to rebuild something sensible. Time to do some large-scale gardening, greenhousing for the winters, scaling up to true farming the next year.
And every bullet spent ending the life of an unknown human with an unknown skillset, brings your community or even humanity that much closer to a full stop.
A pilot!?! He could scout the area in a 100 mile radius for salvageable tractors, disc plows, dairy farms with cattle still around them or fertilizer to collect, or whatever. And do it in a day.
Instead, the Governor got himself a backlit fishtank with another severed head. I dunno, maybe the pilot died naturally from his wounds. But I doubt it, given the way that the other NG soldiers were dispatched with no compunction.
I'm thinking that's the point. Governor isn't a smart guy in that way. He's a tinpot dictator with delusions of grandeur and no plans on rebuilding a good society.
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I'm thinking that's the point. Governor isn't a smart guy in that way. He's a tinpot dictator with delusions of grandeur and no plans on rebuilding a good society.
Which means that his "command staff" (if you can call them that) are also short on vision and ethics too.
Stoopid people don't lead groups like this unless the rest of the group are equally bone-headed.
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Which means that his "command staff" (if you can call them that) are also short on vision and ethics too.
Stoopid people don't lead groups like this unless the rest of the group are equally bone-headed.
Or too scared to revolt. They're voting lesser of two evils.
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Which means that his "command staff" (if you can call them that) are also short on vision and ethics too.
Stoopid people don't lead groups like this unless the rest of the group are equally bone-headed.
How far do we really have to look for people promoted into leadership roles who substitute self-confidence for competence, and get away with it for a time?
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Or too scared to revolt. They're voting lesser of two evils.
Gee. That sounds downright familiar.
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Gee. That sounds downright familiar.
Think if they get to close in their allusion to the current state of national politics it'll get the show shut down like Jericho?
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I'm thinking that's the point. Governor isn't a smart guy in that way. He's a tinpot dictator with delusions of grandeur and no plans on rebuilding a good society.
It looks like his town was populated mostly by women or men he could intimidate. He wasn't going to bring in NG soldiers that might challenge his author-ah-tay.
I think there is something to the women in the town- he keeeps them unarmed, probably keeps them mainly as his personal harem.
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It looked to me that when Michonne said she wanted her weapons and the gov said that "they'll be outside the gate for you to pick up" that she was thinking "right, that's when you'll kill me"
My prediction is Merle will realize the error of his ways, confess to Andrea and Michonne and help them to escape and join them to find Daryl ... and as soon as he finds him do something really dumb, get his brother bit and the rest of the group will unite to kill Merle.
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I'm concerned by the looks Andrea keeps giving him. She has the potential to be the power-hungry sort. If she teams up with him, I will have completely lost all respect for the women in this show. Now if she's watching him to size him up and end his reign of terror, then I'll be happy.
Michonne is sizing him up and probably is familiar with molon labe - she's an awesome sword fighter.
Andrea didn't know how to shoot until she hooked up with Shane, so she'll undoubtedly hook up with the gov until Michonne kicks her dumb butt.
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It looks like his town was populated mostly by women or men he could intimidate. He wasn't going to bring in NG soldiers that might challenge his author-ah-tay.
I think there is something to the women in the town- he keeeps them unarmed, probably keeps them mainly as his personal harem.
Prediction has merit, IMHO.
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Michonne is sizing him up and probably is familiar with molon labe - she's an awesome sword fighter.
Maybe she is - but we haven't seen that demonstrated yet. Or did I miss an episode where she did more than chop a couple of slow-shuffling zombies?
Merle has his own agenda - and it begins and ends with getting even with the people who left him on that rooftop. He may have teamed up with The Governor as a matter of convenience, but now that he's met up with Andrea and knows Rick & Company are still around, he's updating his plans accordingly. The only question is will he enlist The Governor's aid somehow, or go it alone? (Will we ever find out why he sawed off his hand rather than the pipes or the cuffs?)
Look for Merle and Daryl's eventual reunion to be awkward. Daryl will be torn between brotherly ties to his older brother and loyalty to Rick's bunch that he's been with for over a year now. I figure one of them will kill the other . . . or get bitten by a zombie and have to be put down by the other.
Of course, if they get a new writer, things can go off the rails entirely . . .
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I anticipate Daryl killing Merle when Merle goes on a violent bender against the rest of the group.
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WRT cutting off his hand, it was quicker.
Walkers were just about to get thru the door.
The gov wouldn't say his name, perhaps he was some kind of infamous character before the z apocalypse.
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During the Gov's conversation with the scientist, there was mention of the scientists' tea. I'm wondering how many town folks are drinking the tea and what may be in it. Can't remember if Michonne drank any or not.
One question I don't recall being answered (sure it was though). Everyone's infected with the virus. Everyone will "turn" when they die. OK. But how can they be caused to "turn" by a bite? What's in the bite that causes one to "turn"? Is the bite itself deadly enough to kill?
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During the Gov's conversation with the scientist, there was mention of the scientists' tea. I'm wondering how many town folks are drinking the tea and what may be in it. Can't remember if Michonne drank any or not.
One question I don't recall being answered (sure it was though). Everyone's infected with the virus. Everyone will "turn" when they die. OK. But how can they be caused to "turn" by a bite? What's in the bite that causes one to "turn"? Is the bite itself deadly enough to kill?
The amount in one's blood isn't enough to kill thanks to the immune system, but it's enough to bring you back when you die. However, the zombies no longer have an immune system, and thus there's deadly amounts of the virus in their blood, saliva etc. My theory, without having ever seen a single episode.
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I thought maybe a bite was enough to kill by massive infection of the regular kind (as can happen with a Komodo Dragon), then you turned because of the Zed virus in the bite and already present in your system.
Chris
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I thought maybe a bite was enough to kill by massive infection of the regular kind (as can happen with a Komodo Dragon), then you turned because of the Zed virus in the bite and already present in your system.
Chris
Beat me to it.
Human bites are among the nastiest as it is, let along the whole walking corpse thing.
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Human bites are among the nastiest as it is, let along the whole walking corpse thing.
Except for chuck Norris, his bite cures impotence AND priapism.
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Except for chuck Norris, his bite cures impotence AND priapism.
Regular Chuck Norris or zombie Chuck Norris?
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Regular Chuck Norris or zombie Chuck Norris?
No such thing as zombie chuck. Any zombie that bites him is either cured or killed.
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No such thing as zombie chuck. Any zombie that bites him is either cured or killed.
Probably both. Cured, then killed for biting Chuck Norris.
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But how would anything penetrate the force field of natural awesome to effect a bite in the first place?
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But how would anything penetrate the force field of natural awesome to effect a bite in the first place?
I don't know I can only cite precedent:
A blind man once stepped on Chuck Norris' foot, and Chuck Norris said, "Don't you know who I am? I'm Chuck Norris!" At the mention of his name, the blind man received sight. Of course, the first, last, and only thing he ever saw was the roundhouse kick coming at his head.
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Demonstrating, I suppose, that the answers to some mysteries are simply beyond our comprehension.
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But how would anything penetrate the force field of natural awesome to effect a bite in the first place?
Probably the same conundrum regarding the healing powers of his tears.
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I thought Chuck would simply lay hands and heal the zombies...
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Huh, that could be a direction the show could take....
No matter where you are in America, Chuck could only be a few states away at any time.
Hunker down until Chuck arrives. he will eventually.
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I thought maybe a bite was enough to kill by massive infection of the regular kind (as can happen with a Komodo Dragon), then you turned because of the Zed virus in the bite and already present in your system.
Chris
Wasn't one of the prisoners killed because he was scratched on the back by the arm bone of a walker (that had pulled the hand off getting out of a set of handcuffs), which would then cause the prisoner would die/turn?
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Wasn't one of the prisoners killed because he was scratched on the back by the arm bone of a walker (that had pulled the hand off getting out of a set of handcuffs), which would then cause the prisoner would die/turn?
Who said he would turn? They killed him before anything happened. I chalk it up to paranoia.
Chris
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The debate was still on-going when he met his demise. Guess we'll have to wait for someone else to get scratched and see what happens.