So how does this work ???

[Tallpine]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/04/obama-tackle-airport-security-following-breaches/

In response to the attempted bombing, the Transportation Security Administration has ordered that travelers flying into the United States from more than a dozen countries will undergo additional screening, including pat-downs and full-body scans. The measures will apply to passengers flying out of countries listed as state sponsors of terrorism -- Cuba, Iran, Sudan and Syria -- as well as other "countries of interest," including Nigeria, Abdulmutallab's homeland, and Yemen, where he allegedly trained with Al Qaeda.

So the TSA has authority over airports in other countries     

Or do they just screen them after they land and de-plane - assuming the plane didn't blow up before arriving 

[slugcatcher]

I think you already know the answers to your questions.  

[wmenorr67]

It isn't supposed to make sense.

[Ben]

One has to wonder if it's Obama, Gibbs, Napolitano, and Emanuel all sitting in a room thinking up stuff they think will sound good to the American Public. They can't be coming up with this stuff after consulting with any of our actual Intelligence experts. They just can't be.

[Grandpa Shooter]

Supposedly our beloved president has connections in high places.  They want him to succeed so they can watch us fail, or fall.

[Fly320s]

The TSA does have the authority to require the procedures to be done for all airline flights coming in to the US. Other countries have special requirements that we must agree to meet before we fly into their country.  That's just the way it is.   

[Tallpine]

The TSA does have the authority to require the procedures to be done for all airline flights coming in to the US. Other countries have special requirements that we must agree to meet before we fly into their country.  That's just the way it is.   

Okay...   

We don't trust some of those countries, but we trust them to do the screenings 

[Waitone]

The TSA does have the authority to require the procedures to be done for all airline flights coming in to the US. Other countries have special requirements that we must agree to meet before we fly into their country.  That's just the way it is.   

So how come it is reports say Obama's edict has been ignored.

[Fly320s]

Now you're getting into the diplomacy area.

Obviously, the TSA can not force other countries to comply with TSA regulations. What can happen is that the TSA determines that the policies are not being followed and therefore the foreign-originating flights may not land or disembark the passengers. That's the TSA's real weapon.

Using the Northwest/Delta flight as an example, if the TSA had determined that flight didn't pass the security requirements, then all passengers and crew would be rescreened on arrival. If it was a recurring problem, then that flight/airline/point of origin would be denied entry into US airspace. There are a bunch of foreign airlines that are prohibited from operating in the US due to security and safety issues.

[Tallpine]

Using the Northwest/Delta flight as an example, if the TSA had determined that flight didn't pass the security requirements, then all passengers and crew would be rescreened on arrival.

Well, if the bomb had actually brought down the plane, then I guess the TSA could literally "screen" the passengers to find their remains 


Still goes back to the old rule: the bad guys only have to get lucky once, but we have to get lucky every time 

[Fly320s]

Still goes back to the old rule: the bad guys only have to get lucky once, but we have to get lucky every time 

You're right, of course.

Luckily, most people have an instinct for self-preservation, and act accordingly.

[Tallpine]

You're right, of course.

Luckily, most people have an instinct for self-preservation, and act accordingly.

Are parachutes okay as carry-on ?   

[sanglant]

Are parachutes okay as carry-on ?   

no we now require equal outcomes. so if you bring a parachute, you have to bring enough for everyone on the plane.

[Fly320s]

Are parachutes okay as carry-on ?   

Actually, yes. Just deactivate the AAD, please.

[AZRedhawk44]

What can happen is that the TSA determines that the policies are not being followed and therefore the foreign-originating flights may not land or disembark the passengers. That's the TSA's real weapon.

And the potential terrorist's real weapon is the 200-ton (or however much it weighs) jet moving at 600mph that can destroy buildings if it isn't shot down by F18 fighters (causing a different but equally effective public response).

Oooh, you naughty Nigerian flight!  You didn't follow our screening procedures.  You have to sit on the tarmac in Reagan, now, after your flight is over.

You go, Obama.