Seems that TommyGun is quite the statist. Oh, he likes his guns and low taxes all right, but he's more than willing to use the government's gun to control YOU
Chris
Bullpucky. Did you really read my last post? There are going to be laws in society, like it or not.
If you truly believe drugs should be legalized, fine. I think I actually stated in my last post that I was A-OKAY with it --as long as my 2nd amendment right to defend myself is more thoroughly recognized as well
TommyGunn:
Do know that your arguments can be used against firearm use & ownership.
Be careful attributing to inanimate objects the blame for actions taken by living & breathing humans.
Where am I doing this? Certainly people can behave criminally without drugs. But don't tell me that every meth head and crackhead out there remains a paragon of virtue. Plenty of people have gotten themselves addicted to some nasty drug and become desparate enough to violate the law.
Recall Rush Limbaugh and his oxycontin addiction? Here you have the #1 champion of law & order in this country and took oxy for a back problem, and wound up violating the law in order to maintain his addiction. True, he didn't become a violent criminal, but he nevertheless acted in a manner completly inconsistant with his normal persona.
Drugs have an effect on people.
My mother dealt with an alcohol addiction during the 1980s, so I've seen it first hand.
The law did nothing to protect her at all.
But I don't treat that as a reason to change the law. My mother dealt with her problem and overcame it.
What "essential liberty" is there in drinking yourself silly with alcohol?
There is none. What is your point, again?
... You think it would be easier for kids to get drugs than it already is if it where legalized? What are you joking? Or just that ill informed? I still remember my old high school, if you couldn't score a bag of pot on Lake Ave. while you were at lunch you went BACK to school to meet up with one of the many dealers there. Funny thing was I smoked cigarettes at the time and had a MUCH bigger hassle trying to get cigarettes than I would have to get pot. Ask any high school age kid (that's not related to you, they'll probably lie) what's easier to get alcohol, tobacco, or weed. I bet $10 that they say weed. Weed dealers aren't worried about the State pulling their pot license something I think a legal licensed dispenser of Marijuana would have to worry about .
Why is it that no one ever believes that, no matter how serious aproblem is, it can't get any worse???
I apologize that I was unable to attend your high school, where
"if you couldn't score a bag of pot on Lake Ave. while you were at lunch you went BACK to school to meet up with one of the many dealers there."I don't doubt that that was your experience. But your experience is not everyones' experience. It certainly wasn't mine when I was in high school ... which come to think of ... may mean that actually the problem has gotten worse. Maybe. Maybe it's only where you lived. Inner city problems are not spread out evenly throughout the country, you know. And flyover country's problems, conversely, are not evenly spread out, either.
Tommygunn, True freedom is an ugly, ugly thing. There is no gaurantee of low crime.
Unless I commit an offense against another, how dare you prevent me from doing what ever I want to myself?
You realize that your reasoning against drugs is exactly the same reasoning they use to control your guns?
I'm not preventing you from doing anything. You're free to addict yourself to crack, to meth, to cannibis, to oxycontin, Captain Morgan's Rum, or to Brussel Sprouts if you want to.
"You realize that your reasoning against drugs is exactly the same reasoning they use to control your guns."
One more time, from my last thread, and
*&^&&* this time,
READ IT!
And it isn't because I am on some Great Holy Jihad of my own to keep these drugs criminalized. I'm not.
My faith in humanity is not such that I expect great things from humanity should we keep these drugs banned, or should we legalize them.
Now, if I can't convince you that I am not some Hitlerian statist who wants to control everything, there is simply no point in continuing. A few people here have evinced such terrible abilities at comprehension that it truly boggles me. How PLAINLY do I have to make myself? Do I have to state everything twice? Three times? In really huge 100pt. font, or is 40 enough? Perhaps if I tried another language, like Spanish, or German, I might achieve something I apparantly have failed at up to now.
In anycase, I won't be repeating myself again.
Have fun and I truly wish you all the luck in the world ..........