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Title: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on February 23, 2010, 03:59:42 PM
Just FYI - I tried it and it's no fun at all.  =|
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Balog on February 23, 2010, 04:00:44 PM
Fingers, plural? Ouch. That can't help the ole typing...
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: SADShooter on February 23, 2010, 04:19:10 PM
Didn't actually break it, but I got one mashed under a wooden waster while sparring. Looked like uncooked beef sausage for about a week. No fun.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on February 23, 2010, 04:21:10 PM
Fingers, plural? Ouch. That can't help the ole typing...

Just one, actually.  Grammar fail on me.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: PTK on February 23, 2010, 04:32:04 PM
It does indeed suck. Most of my right hand fingers still freak out now and then. Random huge bursts of pain, and they broke nearly ten years ago. Have fun with that.  =|
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Stickjockey on February 23, 2010, 04:36:50 PM
Been there, done that, burned the T-shirt. Tried to catch a bale of hops; broke two and sprained a third. Never try to catch something that weighs as much as you if it's falling from chest-height.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: RevDisk on February 23, 2010, 05:20:22 PM


Uhm, ouch?   What the heck were you doing?
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on February 23, 2010, 05:40:44 PM

Uhm, ouch?   What the heck were you doing?

Fightin'.  Specifically, Krav Maga fight class.

My training partner was blocking hook punches.  I was hook punching.

My partner misjudged where I was going to hit.  Caught the punch with his elbow.  To his credit, the defense worked.  =)
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: RevDisk on February 23, 2010, 05:57:22 PM
Fightin'.  Specifically, Krav Maga fight class.

My training partner was blocking hook punches.  I was hook punching.

My partner misjudged where I was going to hit.  Caught the punch with his elbow.  To his credit, the defense worked.  =)

Hrm.  Yea.  I did that once.  Completely accidentally.  Someone threw one of those glass mugs at me, and I caught it with an elbow.  Worked better than I thought, but I could never get it right when I was intentionally trying to do it.

So splint up the finger, inject it with a local and get back on the mat. 
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on February 23, 2010, 05:59:17 PM
Hrm.  Yea.  I did that once.  Completely accidentally.  Someone threw one of those glass mugs at me, and I caught it with an elbow.  Worked better than I thought, but I could never get it right when I was intentionally trying to do it.

So splint up the finger, inject it with a local and get back on the mat. 

Yea, I'm trying to figure out if I can still fight with a splinted finger.

Maybe if I substitute palm strikes for straight punches for a while?  Hrm.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: sanglant on February 23, 2010, 06:59:35 PM
Nick, thanks man. my thumbs been killing me. i feel much better now. :O ;)
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: BridgeRunner on February 23, 2010, 07:07:32 PM
Ha! Suck it up, fingers are for breaking and spraining, that's why you have ten of them.

/judoka

Yeah, it sucks.  Btdt.  =|
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: coppertales on February 24, 2010, 09:51:49 AM
I hyperextended my left ring finger lifting a TV carton.  Being as strong as I am I stress the body structure from time to time.  Now when I make a fist, the finger locks up and I have to manually extend that finger....chris3
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: wmenorr67 on February 24, 2010, 04:47:49 PM
Broke the little toe on my left foot back the last weekend of January as I was moving.  Slipped on some ice and either landed on it wrong or it twisted up underneath me.  Still hurts to this day.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: vaskidmark on February 24, 2010, 05:01:50 PM
I hyperextended my left ring finger lifting a TV carton.  Being as strong as I am I stress the body structure from time to time.  Now when I make a fist, the finger locks up and I have to manually extend that finger....chris3

At least yours bends inwards.  I'm still trying to get my pinky finger (busted Sept 2009) to touch my palm, and to raise it up off a flat surface.  Last time I saw the Doc he said I need to keep doing the rehab exercises and maybe in another year I will have a normal grip.  As for being able to lift it up from a flat surface - maybe yes, maybe no.

I've had to give up the full-size pistols/revolvers as I do not have a three-finger grip.  On the other hand, I'm a whole lot better with the various snubbies & subcompacts.

stay safe.

skidmark
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on March 01, 2010, 12:00:46 PM
Well, crap.

My primary care physician sent me to a orthopedic specialist with my X-ray in hand.

He thinks I should get surgery on it.  The x-ray shows a chunk of bone sheared clean off, that is part of the last joint on that pinky.  He recommends having the bone pinned back together so I don't end up with stiffness + arthritis later in life.

 :'( :mad: =|
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: sanglant on March 01, 2010, 12:06:33 PM
good luck man. =(
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Balog on March 01, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
 :O :O :O

Damn, sorry to hear that man. Will your insurance cover that?
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on March 01, 2010, 12:16:34 PM
Damn, sorry to hear that man. Will your insurance cover that?

It should be, need to call and make sure the surgeon is in network.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: PTK on March 01, 2010, 12:22:50 PM
If it's covered, do it. Arthritis sucks.  =|
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on March 01, 2010, 02:00:27 PM
Sorry for the lousy quality, taken with my camera phone: 

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv282%2Fnick1911%2FSSPX0061-2.jpg&hash=e50b1f290f113a783751d7b54ecd98cfac343c08)

This is a side view.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: sanglant on March 01, 2010, 04:18:26 PM
 :O hope they at least got you to where you ain't feelin it. =(
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: crt360 on March 01, 2010, 04:34:40 PM
Damn, Nick.  I know you're an advanced DIY kinda guy, but x-rays with your cell phone camera?  Impressive.

As for the bone, I'd probably do what the doc suggests.  I know there are risks either way, but some things don't get much better on their own and that looks like one of them.  I've messed up a few fingers and I'm very thankful that they work as well as they do.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: sanglant on March 01, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
try to avoid the staff (http://www.medicinenet.com/staph_infection/article.htm) if you go for the knife. it pays to check up on the hospital before hand. [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Viking on March 02, 2010, 09:37:03 AM
All I can say is "ouch". Get well.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Ron on March 02, 2010, 10:00:32 AM
Take the right course of action and time to let it heal properly.

My new hobby is climbing, I've been climbing indoors since last Nov.

Early on I hurt my ring finger on the right hand but kept on climbing 1 or 2 times a week. Three weeks ago I discovered the name of the injury and what the consequences were if I kept climbing and didn't let it heal. It is called a pulley injury, it is microtear(s) of the connective tissue in the finger. It causes enough weakness where I am more susceptible to a full blown tendon rupture if I don't let it heal up.

I'm taking time off from climbing and working out at home to maintain my fitness level.   
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on March 02, 2010, 10:10:05 AM
Ron - I couldn't agree more.  Now that I realize the nature of what happened, I've decided it's best to take a hiatus from Krav Maga for a while.  The owner has suspended my membership, which I thought was a decent.

I've got a better picture of the break:

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv282%2Fnick1911%2FDSC02184.jpg&hash=aa4ab398bbbfcee8ee667c3bce124e4d68d76119)

As you can see, I've seriously damaged the bones that make up the joint.

Funny - it hurt a lot when it happened, but I kept on fighting.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: sanglant on March 02, 2010, 01:35:30 PM
ain't adrenalin grand. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on March 04, 2010, 05:15:11 PM
Surgery is tomorrow.

Makes me nervous, even though I know it's for the best.  =|
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: sanglant on March 04, 2010, 05:44:12 PM
i'll be praying for you. if you believe in such things. :angel:
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on March 05, 2010, 06:12:31 PM
Just a quick follow up, surgery is over, everything went really well.

Got a script for vicodin, so I should be alright from a pain standpoint.  :cool:
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: crt360 on March 06, 2010, 10:48:04 AM
Good to hear.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: RevDisk on March 06, 2010, 09:15:54 PM
Just a quick follow up, surgery is over, everything went really well.

Got a script for vicodin, so I should be alright from a pain standpoint.  :cool:

I'll say the obvious.  Do NOT use your metal cutting gear while high on pain killers.   :P
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: sanglant on March 07, 2010, 03:52:40 PM
and remember that vicodin contains tylenol. [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: RocketMan on March 07, 2010, 04:25:36 PM
Good to hear everything went well Nick.  Don't be pickin' yer nose with that finger for awhile.  Wait for it to heal, first.  =D

Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on April 16, 2010, 05:07:54 PM
So, I have an appointment on April 29th to "get the pin out."

I was unsure what this meant until recently.  I've recently noticed that I can see the end of a pin just under the skin at the tip of my finger.  This is odd, because it appears to be inserted lengthwise, parallel to the bone.

Then I found this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znd_HUXM-0g (WARNING: Graphic!)

 :O
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: PTK on April 16, 2010, 05:10:05 PM
Don't worry, they use xylocaine and block the nerves first.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: mellestad on April 16, 2010, 05:21:07 PM
So, I have an appointment on April 29th to "get the pin out."

I was unsure what this meant until recently.  I've recently noticed that I can see the end of a pin just under the skin at the tip of my finger.  This is odd, because it appears to be inserted lengthwise, parallel to the bone.

Then I found this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znd_HUXM-0g (WARNING: Graphic!)

 :O


 :O
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: 280plus on April 16, 2010, 05:40:36 PM
Yea, one of my brothers trashed his hand on a guardrail in a motorcylce accident. he had little pins sticking out every which way. Good to hear you're on the mend.
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Ex-MA Hole on April 16, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
My Wife had a plate in her wrist, which is now sitting in out breakfront. 
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on April 29, 2010, 11:26:17 AM
I am now without a 2 inch long, 1/16ish diameter stainless pin!   =)

If you all want gory details, including the part where I had to lay on the ground because I was going to pass out - just ask.  :O
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: 280plus on April 29, 2010, 11:50:26 AM
Um, pass...  :P

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: Nick1911 on May 17, 2010, 10:11:32 PM
Finger is totally recovered.

I signed back up for fight class.  :cool:
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: MechAg94 on May 17, 2010, 10:56:39 PM
Cool.

A girl I used to play coed softball with essentially jammed her ring finger inside the glove.  It caused a break at the joint.  She was playing first and the ball just hit her glove wrong.  This was years ago and she still has little use of the finger.  It can be pretty bad. 
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: KD5NRH on May 18, 2010, 05:12:59 AM
Had a friend who was running a large paper cutter - multiple reams in one cut.  The blade actuator was a pair of buttons arms' length apart.  The actuator for the several-ton press to hold the paper in place, OTOH, was a too conveniently placed foot pedal.  Fortunately he got off the pedal before the damage would have been irreparable.

Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 18, 2010, 07:56:00 AM
yea  a 22ton wood splitter will leave a mark if your hand gets pinches by a piece of wood shifting.  as he changes the bandage
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: 280plus on May 18, 2010, 04:56:20 PM
The steam presses I used to service had two green buttons so you had to use both hands to close it and couldn't catch a hand. Unless you're about 6' tall and can reach one of the buttons with a knee, use one hand to adjust the clothes and one hand to close the press on the hand you are using to arrange the clothes. Not me thankfully, sometimes it's good to be short. The kid said the back of his hand stuck to the hot steel, he ripped off all the skin.  :O

Did a lot of damage, scarring etc.  =|
Title: Re: Don't fracture fingers.
Post by: sanglant on May 18, 2010, 05:49:01 PM
yesh, sometimes being "smart" is a curse. =( my hands ache just thinking about it.