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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: seeker_two on December 20, 2010, 03:05:54 PM
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Just thinking while making out my Christmas list....what is a firearm that was never made, but you wish you owned?....
My choice....a Thompson SMG in .38Super...with a 60-rd drum magazine.... :cool:
Wish away!..... =D
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AR in .32 Win Special.....
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A 9mm carbine that takes XD magazines.
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Phased plasma rifle
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A loaded infinite-capacity magzine for each of my firearms. Apparently Hollywood has them all, and they're not sharing.
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My choice....a Thompson SMG in .38Super...with a 60-rd drum magazine....
That would be super cool, but I'll take mine in 10mm.
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A Saiga in .45 Colt.
A cheap carbine (Sub2k or Hi-Point) in 7.62x25mm.
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M1 carbine in 10mm. [popcorn]
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M1 carbine in 10mm. [popcorn]
So much epic epicness. [ar15]
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A Saiga in .45 Colt.
Make mine a .454Casull, and I'm very interested.... :O
A cheap carbine (Sub2k or Hi-Point) in 7.62x25mm.
Another good one....maybe even one on a MP-5-style receiver.... :cool:
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A "tactical" version of the Ruger Deerfield carbine (.44 Magnum), with reliable high capacity[1] magazines.
[1] meaning 30 or more rounds
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Ruger rotary magazine carbine or kel tec sub in .45acp....
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1911 in 7.62x25. Next to impossible to find, difficult to manufacture.
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Small-frame 5-shot top-break alloy frame snubbie in 9mm (moon clips) with the cylinder shortened to accommodate the 9mm.
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Make mine a .454Casull, and I'm very interested.... :O
That would be fun, but I didn't just grab .45 Colt out of the blue. I figure their .410 Saiga shotguns are already built to handle the 13,500psi of the .410 shell. The .45 Colt is only 14,000psi. The number of things that would have to change to make it all work could be very minimal.
The .454 Cassull is a 65,000psi cartridge. But, yeah, it would be more fun. Kinda the poor man's answer to the .458 SOCOM AR's out there though I do believe .458 SOCOM has a good bit more energy than even .454 Cassull.
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Small-frame 5-shot top-break alloy frame snubbie in 9mm (moon clips) with the cylinder shortened to accommodate the 9mm.
Grande demi-tasse non-fat half-caf extra-hot four-pump eggnog pumpkin spice mocha (with biscotti) with whip cream and nutmeg.
Your revolver sounded like a starbuck's order to me. =D
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M1 carbine in 10mm.
M1 carbine in .357 magnum.
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I'm still waiting for the Kel-Tec SU-14CA. Like the SU-16CA, but in 7.62x51.
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I'm still waiting for the Kel-Tec SU-14CA. Like the SU-16CA, but in 7.62x51.
I'll be in a different room the first time it gets test fired.
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Belt-fed 16ga.
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P90/PS90 in 7.62x25. And also costs what it's worth to mfg. it in parts, labor, and markup. I certainly DON'T expect FN, the distributors, or FFL's to take a loss on the product, but it's in no way a $1500 carbine either. Blowback action, and a plastic shell. There is just not much too them. I guess they're trying to recoup their R&D and tooling costs where possible, since they've never sold a massive number as a PDW to anybody's military.
Kel-Tec RFB actually in stock and sold at MSRP. (getting there... however painfully slowly) Same for the PMR. KT has some sort of production bottleneck problem, and they're not letting it out what it is. They don't make any of their stuff fast enough to satisfy demand, save maybe the P11.
Trijicon optics that cost less than the rifles you're putting them on. (No idea if it's market premium, or it really costs that much to make them...)
Top-break revolver that loads from moon clips, and shoots from the bottom barrel. (The new Italian Chiappa Rhino imported by MKS is halfway there. ) Oh, and make it a 9-shot .327 Fed. Mag. integrated light/laser options right in the frame, and make .327 Fed. popular so price/supply isn't an issue.
Make mine a .454Casull, and I'm very interested.... :O
Another good one....maybe even one on a MP-5-style receiver.... :cool:
IIRC, some people have made .45-70 Saiga's out of the .410 shotgun model. Does the OAL of .410 vs. .45-70 make that impossible? (Maybe Tromix converted one to .444 Marlin or something... I can't remember)
I have a Kel-Tec Sub9, the metal predecessor to the Sub2000, and I too would love that in 7.62x25. The MP-5/HK-94 clone in 7.62x25 would also be sweeeeeet...
They do sell some Wiselite Sterlings in 7.62x25 BTW... And it's probably pushing 700 ft/lbs out of a 16" barrel.
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/sterling-carbine,-7-62x25mm-by-wiselite-backordered-/products_id/4318
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/sterling-pistol,-7-62x25-cal,-the-colefire-magnum-by-wiselite-/products_id/3940
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I'll be in a different room the first time it gets test fired.
OK, then like the SU-16, but in 7.62 and built to handle it. =)
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Sharps 30-06 :lol:
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M1 carbine in .357 magnum.
M1 carbine in 20mm. >:D
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Over on Twitter, one of the gangstahs mentioned a sniper rifle with a 90 round magazine. That sounds pretty good. I'd only have to load the magazine about every four range sessions. It would be heavy, but I shoot off a rest.
I'd bet the military would be interested, too. Most of their snipers would only have to load the magazine once in all their deployments combined.
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Over on Twitter, one of the gangstahs mentioned a sniper rifle with a 90 round magazine. That sounds pretty good. I'd only have to load the magazine about every four range sessions. It would be heavy, but I shoot off a rest.
I'd bet the military would be interested, too. Most of their snipers would only have to load the magazine once in all their deployments combined.
I suppose they could be talking about a self-loading .223 of some sort with a Beta-C magazine, or some of the plastic one-sided snail-drums. Everything longer than a pistol, or Tec-9 style is a "sniper" to them.
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A double-stack polymer pistol in 7.62x25 and a matching carbine that takes the same mags.
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A new Marlin Camp 45.
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A double-stack polymer pistol in 7.62x25 and a matching carbine that takes the same mags.
Grip diameter would just be absolutely unwieldy, unless it had an integrated magazine well, like an old Roth-Steyr, Mauser Broomhandle, or the old Grendel .380 to save every last millimeter possible.
Even a single-stack Tokarev or CZ-52 is pretty long reach.
The ballistics don't line up, but I think the new Kel-Tec PMR and the carbine that's coming out in 2011 will fit the bill otherwise.
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Grip diameter would just be absolutely unwieldy, unless it had an integrated magazine well, like an old Roth-Steyr, Mauser Broomhandle, or the old Grendel .380 to save every last millimeter possible.
Even a single-stack Tokarev or CZ-52 is pretty long reach.
The ballistics don't line up, but I think the new Kel-Tec PMR and the carbine that's coming out in 2011 will fit the bill otherwise.
Tokarev actually made a double-stack prototype and it didn't look all that huge. The grip size isn't anything horrendous when grip panels are thin. I think it really wouldn't be any worse than the HundK pistols. The CZ-52 grip is larger than it needs to be.
Now that I think about it, a lever gun in 7.62x25 would be kinda cool, too.
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Over on Twitter, one of the gangstahs mentioned a sniper rifle with a 90 round magazine. That sounds pretty good. I'd only have to load the magazine about every four range sessions. It would be heavy, but I shoot off a rest.
I'd bet the military would be interested, too. Most of their snipers would only have to load the magazine once in all their deployments combined.
Sometimes you might as well just go with a belt fed heavy machine gun. It weighs the same anyway.
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Trijicon optics that cost less than the rifles you're putting them on. (No idea if it's market premium, or it really costs that much to make them...)
This.
Small-frame 5-shot top-break alloy frame snubbie in 9mm (moon clips) with the cylinder shortened to accommodate the 9mm.
And this.
And a phaser. There are some people that should be stunned, others should be disintegrated.
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KT has some sort of production bottleneck problem, and they're not letting it out what it is. They don't make any of their stuff fast enough to satisfy demand, save maybe the P11.
I read somewhere that it's a problem with getting enough electric power to the plant.
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Going along the top break line of thought, a K frame sized modern top break, in .357 would be the cats pajamas.
Maybe a refined Russian model?
If they'd make it, I'd buy it.
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The Tesla gun from Warehouse 13 and... Vera. =D
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I'll take the M1 Carbine in 7.62x25 please.
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The Thompson has been made in 10mm though it is very rare. There have also been M1 carbine conversions to 10mm. (Myself likes wierd 10mm's).
I want the rifle/flamethrower from aliens.
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BFR in .460Wby.
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mp-412 REX
Thanks Clinton.
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The auto-tracking smart gun from aliens. (the steady cam harness gun)
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M1 carbine in 10mm. [popcorn]
M1 Carbine in 10mm Magnum.
http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt10mag.htm
Yes it a rare cartridge, but cool non the less.
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I read somewhere that it's a problem with getting enough electric power to the plant.
That's been my theory, I can't remember where I heard it though.
First it was "We're building the new warehouse/expanded shop floor and getting new machines" then the bottlenecks continued.
My wild speculation is that there was some sort of miscommunication or assumption they had enough 440v service to power all the new CNC machines, and they do not. And then they thought that the utility co would bring it in, but wants them to pay for something outrageous, like a few miles of power lines or a sub-station or whatever and they're at an impasse over it.
Second one is that George Kelgren's divorce his wife had something like 50% of the company, and is holding up capital investments or some such thing.
Anybody good at looking up Florida court documents for any civil issues with KT or Kelgren vs. a real-estate agent (misrepresentation of the land and services), or the utility co?
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Seems that the M1 Carbine chambered in anything EXCEPT .30 carbine is on everyone's list.
I'd like an M1 Carbine chambered in 9mm and takes XD mags.
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Seems that the M1 Carbine chambered in anything EXCEPT .30 carbine is on everyone's list.
I'd like an M1 Carbine chambered in 9mm and takes XD mags.
How about .45Winmag?
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I saw another one on Twitter that would be interesting. It was a 34 gauge assault rifle. It would be a real man-stopper, but you'd need to buy Pachmyr deceleration pads by the case. ;)
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How about a scope with cross hairs that don't wobble ? :lol:
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I saw another one on Twitter that would be interesting. It was a 34 gauge assault rifle. It would be a real man-stopper, but you'd need to buy Pachmyr deceleration pads by the case. ;)
Are you sure it was 34 gauge? That would actually be fairly mid size.
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Are you sure it was 34 gauge? That would actually be fairly mid size.
Approximately .51" in diamter.
cuberoot(7000 / (1501.339 x 34))
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Hezi carbine.
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An accurate mini-14 :lol:
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Hezi carbine.
M1 Carbines cheap enough to be willing to make a Hezi.
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How about a commercially made DeLisle carbine?
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I saw another one on Twitter that would be interesting. It was a 34 gauge assault rifle. It would be a real man-stopper, but you'd need to buy Pachmyr deceleration pads by the case. ;)
I shot a 9mm shotgun one time, I think a airgun has more recoil. Its a little rimfire cartridge.
I also shot a 8 guage slug gun, that kicks a wee bit.
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How about a 3"-4" 5-shot k-frame sized 41Special, firing a 200gr-215gr SWC or HP at about 900-1000fps.
Chris
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Seems that the M1 Carbine chambered in anything EXCEPT .30 carbine is on everyone's list.
I'd like an M1 Carbine chambered in 9mm and takes XD mags.
Win! Actually, make that .40.
How about an M1 Carbine with cartridge conversion kits?
An accurate mini-14 cheesy
See above comment on the M1 Carbine.
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How about a commercially made DeLisle carbine?
Been done, and I wouldn't mind having one.
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I feel like it should be possible to make a 3-4 shot J-frame in .45ACP.
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Been done, and I wouldn't mind having one.
I'd heard of an outfit that makes them, but I was thinking more like being able to go to the nearest Sportsman's Warehouse and being able to pick one up kind of commercial gun. :cool:
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*adds another one to the M1 Carbine list*
A true M1 Carbine (NOT a mini-14!) in .223 whose only modification is a lengthened receiver with suitable magazine well so it could use STANAG magazines. This one is on my to-do list when I finally get a proper shop with a lathe and mill.
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Seems that the M1 Carbine chambered in anything EXCEPT .30 carbine is on everyone's list.
I don't own an M1 Carbine but if I did I wouldn't hesitate to load it with soft points and use it for self defense. I want one in .357 just because there are so many different loads out there from 125 gr all the way up to 180 gr. I've never walked into a place selling ammo that didn't have some sort of .38/.357 on the shelf but I have seen places that didn't have any .30 ammo.
I also want a 1911 in .357. I think Coonan Arms used to make one rim lock was probably a problem.
What I really need is to plunk down some money on a cowboy assault rifle but school, my motorcycle and my ever growing bicycle collection have been sucking up my spare cash.
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I also want a 1911 in .357. I think Coonan Arms used to make one rim lock was probably a problem.
They are making them again.
http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5
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They are making them again.
http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5
They're making them, or just advertising them?
** Delivery expected in 6 weeks
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I feel like it should be possible to make a 3-4 shot J-frame in .45ACP.
A 5 shot J-frame equivalent in .40.
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They're making them, or just advertising them?
A guy on a local gun board shot a prototype after running into testers at the range two days ago. They do exist.
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They are making them again.
http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5
I wonder if they'll have the conversion kit to fire .38SPL like the old ones did....could make for an interesting IDPA gun....
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I wonder if they'll have the conversion kit to fire .38SPL like the old ones did....could make for an interesting IDPA gun....
Why not a .38 Super instead... oops, stupid question :facepalm:
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Why not a .38 Super instead... oops, stupid question :facepalm:
A 1911 in .38 Super?....that'll never catch on.... ;/
=D
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The Magpul FMG/AFG.
They are absolute bastards for showing that thing off at SHOT two years ago and then never producing it. =(
That would ABSOLUTELY get me off my kiester to take the NFA plunge.
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I don't really have the money for any NFA toys. If they were more accessible I would really want a .22 of some sort so I would have at least a marginal ability to feed it. Maybe an American 180.
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I'm just talking about getting the FMG/AFG under the SBR category, and paying the $200 for that.
Since the AFG/FMG needs a Glock slide and barrel to function, it would be a SBR only. There are no transferable Glock 18's I believe, or if there are, there's only like one or two in all of the US. Perhaps a handful of the "magic switch" slide backplates were registered. Either way, if they even exist, they all cost six figures I'm sure.
They only had two years from Glock's market introduction to the MG freeze poison pill amendment in the '86 FOPA. So if you ever do see an FA Glock, it's a SOT sample I'm sure.
I do want to get a .22 suppressor, and get a stock and SBR my Draco AK pistol into a pseudo-Krinkov of sorts though.
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I wonder if they'll have the conversion kit to fire .38SPL like the old ones did....could make for an interesting IDPA gun....
I met a guy at my gun club a couple of years ago that had a factory Colt 1911 chamberd in .38 Special. The gun was fitted out with a Bomar rib sight set up and was a very nice pistol. Guy claimed he had been on the USAF pistol team, I found no reason to doubt him.
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I have no problem with the M1 Carbine in .30; I have a reliable National Postal Meter as my primary home defense rifle. I still think 7.62x25 would be a fun alternative.
I agree about the design being carried over more directly to .223, but I would think that AK-style mags would be easier to adapt to the receiver.
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An Ithaca model 49-r* that wasn't a jam-o-matic.
* = lever action .22LR
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Another want:
16" Lever gun in .45 ACP.
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I have no problem with the M1 Carbine in .30; I have a reliable National Postal Meter as my primary home defense rifle. I still think 7.62x25 would be a fun alternative.
I agree about the design being carried over more directly to .223, but I would think that AK-style mags would be easier to adapt to the receiver.
I don't know that it would be easier, since you'd be making a larger/longer receiver from scratch anyway, but it certainly would be cheaper, because .223 using AR mags would require a slide in magwell extension. Which means a bigger more complex forging... LOL who am I kidding. I mean CASTING.
The M1 pretty much uses slide in style now, but that's for the much more diminutive magazine, and the release is centerline more like an AK or a FAL's. I agree the "rock in" AK style would certainly be easier, and keep the more correct m1 profile.
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Another want:
16" Lever gun in .45 ACP.
Tube magazine goodness! Load it on Sunday, shoot it all week! That stubby little cartridge is nearly as short as a .22LR. Extraction could be tricky, though, especially if you get folks hotrodding the .45acp into a .45 Super or .460 Rowland power factor... using slow powders.
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My thoughts exactly. A straight 20-round mag in that configuration would look pretty good.
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I met a guy at my gun club a couple of years ago that had a factory Colt 1911 chamberd in .38 Special. The gun was fitted out with a Bomar rib sight set up and was a very nice pistol. Guy claimed he had been on the USAF pistol team, I found no reason to doubt him.
Jim Clark out of Lousiana used to make those conversions. Only problems is that they only fed wadcutter loads...and those not too well. The Coonan conversions could feed any type of .38SPL load fairly reliably.
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An Ithaca model 49-r* that wasn't a jam-o-matic.
* = lever action .22LR
How does a single shot rifle "jam" ???
Mine sometimes fails to eject, if you don't open the lever fast enough.
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Mine sometimes fails to eject, if you don't open the lever fast enough.
The -49 that I had didn't extract, I had to dig each shell out with my fingernail, but I never complained :cool:
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A cheap carbine (Sub2k or Hi-Point) in 7.62x25mm.
Definitely.
I'd like to see a new Pedersen device for various calibers, like 7.62 Tok in a Mosin-Nagant, or even 5.45X39. I'd like a single-stack concealable pistol in 5.7X28, with 1903 Colt styling. I also want to see a replica Johnson rifle, in various calibers--.223 especially. I like the idea of a modern revolver--.38 or .357--with a break-top.
I want a Crimson Trace grip for my Makarov.
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I have no problem with the M1 Carbine in .30; I have a reliable National Postal Meter as my primary home defense rifle. I still think 7.62x25 would be a fun alternative.
I agree about the design being carried over more directly to .223, but I would think that AK-style mags would be easier to adapt to the receiver.
I don't know that it would be easier, since you'd be making a larger/longer receiver from scratch anyway, but it certainly wouldn't be cheaper, because .223 using AR mags would require a slide in magwell extension. Which means a bigger more complex forging... LOL who am I kidding. I mean CASTING.
The M1 pretty much uses slide in style now, but that's for the much more diminutive magazine, and the release is centerline more like an AK or a FAL's. I agree the "rock in" AK style would certainly be easier, and keep the more correct m1 profile.
As to the mags, as AJ said, the M1 Carbine is already a straight insert magazine with a laterally moving (sideways) push button mag catch. This most closely resembles the magazine retention system of the M16 rather than the AK, more so when you look at the slight modification they did with the M2 Carbine in which the latch now reaches around the left side of the magazine and holds there as well exactly as the M16 does. Plus you have a bit wider selection of AR mags than .223 AK mags, especially regarding higher capacity items like the C-mag.
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I like the idea of a modern revolver--.38 or .357--with a break-top.
Double me up on that one. I understand the Russians have or had one like that in a .357-ish equivalent caliber, though.
I'd like to see a Thompson submachine gun and a WWII "Grease Gun" (M3?) scaled down to the .380 cartridge.
Except for the trigger guard.
Semiauto, of course.
Totally impractical, and a market base of 1 (me) but I kind of like miniaturization. That's one reason I like my locked-breech Llama .380 Auto. It, and all the parts in it, are scaled down to about 5/8 the size of the 1911.
Terry, 230RN
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Modern topbreak in .357 Magnum......
MP-412 REX.
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Good luck getting one though, they were never put into production due to a lack of market. You would likely need to get the blueprints and contract a gunsmith who specialized in revolvers to make you a one off if you really wanted it.
Edit: While not a "modern" design, Uberti does make some very nice repros of the Schofield top breaks with modern metallurgy and some appropriate beefing up in a few areas. I'm particularly partial to their 1875 Russian model which you can get in either .44 Russian or .45 Colt (which, I believe, can handle modern .45 Colt loadings, though you'd do well to ask the people at Uberti to be sure.)
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Small-frame 5-shot top-break alloy frame snubbie in 9mm (moon clips) with the cylinder shortened to accommodate the 9mm.
No. .45 Auto.
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How does a single shot rifle "jam" ???
Mine sometimes fails to eject, if you don't open the lever fast enough.
Mine's a repeater with a 14(LR)-round tube mag under the barrel.
If it ejects properly, you're lucky if the next round pops into the carrier properly. If that happens, you're lucky if it makes the trip to the chamber, and doesn't jam against the back of the barrel when you try to send it home.
My dad could work it pretty good when he was teaching me to shoot. Now that it's mine, I can't figure out the magic touch.
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Well, duh - I never knew they made a repeater version :facepalm:
There does seem to be a trick to lever actions though, even with my Marlin 39: You have to work the lever authoritatively, and don't point the muzzle down - keep it level.
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Darn right, don't let those squirrels see any signs of weakness. You keep that rifle level and don't take no nuts from nobody.
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Darn right, don't let those squirrels see any signs of weakness. You keep that rifle level and don't take no nuts from nobody.
That's why they call them level actions :lol:
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Edit: While not a "modern" design, Uberti does make some very nice repros of the Schofield top breaks with modern metallurgy and some appropriate beefing up in a few areas. I'm particularly partial to their 1875 Russian model which you can get in either .44 Russian or .45 Colt (which, I believe, can handle modern .45 Colt loadings, though you'd do well to ask the people at Uberti to be sure.)
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If it can take modern .45 Colt loads, and not just the balloon-head BP cowboy type loads, that would be a hell of a gun to give the "Blade Runner" treatment to. >:D
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Edit: While not a "modern" design, Uberti does make some very nice repros of the Schofield top breaks with modern metallurgy and some appropriate beefing up in a few areas. I'm particularly partial to their 1875 Russian model which you can get in either .44 Russian or .45 Colt (which, I believe, can handle modern .45 Colt loadings, though you'd do well to ask the people at Uberti to be sure.)
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No dice on the modern .45Colt loads....they're SAA/Cowboy loads only....and I'd love to have one in .357.... :'(
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Moar wants:
Kel Tec sub in .45ACP that takes 1911 mags.
AR 15 based subgun. Not a modified mag well jobber, but an honest to goodness one built around say .45. SBR, maybe 10", with a shorter buffer tube to allow for a shorter LOP adjustable stock.
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I'll second both of those, and an M9 in .45 ACP with a single-stack magazine.
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Would it be possible from an engineering perspective to build a copy of the Webley in .44 Mag? :cool: =D
Or would it blow to pieces? =(
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Would it be possible from an engineering perspective to build a copy of the Webley in .44 Mag? :cool: =D
Or would it blow to pieces? =(
You could probably do it, the top strap and locking mechanism would be rather large though to handle the pressure. If you didn't mind it being bigger than a regular 44mag revolver it's probably doable.
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Moar wants:
Kel Tec sub in .45ACP that takes 1911 mags.
AR 15 based subgun. Not a modified mag well jobber, but an honest to goodness one built around say .45. SBR, maybe 10", with a shorter buffer tube to allow for a shorter LOP adjustable stock.
I've no idea who, or where to find it, but some guy on Arfcom had subgun AR lowers that narrowed down to fit the profile of the subgun mags only, not a .223 well with blocks in it etc. Looked really slick. I think it was a 7.62x25 job.
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Bring back the stainless M6 survival rifle, please.
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I've no idea who, or where to find it, but some guy on Arfcom had subgun AR lowers that narrowed down to fit the profile of the subgun mags only, not a .223 well with blocks in it etc. Looked really slick. I think it was a 7.62x25 job.
Closer. But imagine the magwell being the appropriate size from top to bottom, front to back, side to side, to fit the magazine. Maybe grease gun mags. The bolt and bolt carrier would be shorter, since something like .45ACP is shorter than a .223.
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Closer. But imagine the magwell being the appropriate size from top to bottom, front to back, side to side, to fit the magazine. Maybe grease gun mags. The bolt and bolt carrier would be shorter, since something like .45ACP is shorter than a .223.
One designed to take the Suomi KP/-31 36rd 9mm magazines would be nice. Those are well designed and very compact for what they hold.
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I'd like a single-stack concealable pistol in 5.7X28, with 1903 Colt styling.
How about just reviving the 1903 Colt, but offering it in some CC-friendly DuraCoated stainless, with a barrel and recoil spring kit to convert it to .25NAA for the .32ACP version and .32NAA for the .380?
It's a great little pistol for concealment, but the surviving 1903s are hard to find and prohibitively expensive, and I'm not sure how well the original frames would handle those NAA wildcats.
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Bring back the stainless M6 survival rifle, please.
Agreed....I'd be satisfied with a bolt-action AR-7 rifle in .22Mag or .22Hornet....the AR-7 never worked well as a semi-auto, so a super-compact bolt gun would really help the design.
I'd like a single-stack concealable pistol in 5.7X28, with 1903 Colt styling.
How about just reviving the 1903 Colt, but offering it in some CC-friendly DuraCoated stainless, with a barrel and recoil spring kit to convert it to .25NAA for the .32ACP version and .32NAA for the .380?
Because that would be like comparing a Vespa to a Kawasaki Ninja.....a 5.7x28 in a slim pocket pistol would be a lot of punch in a small package. Kinda like the Russian 5.45x18 "vest puncher"....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.45x18mm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.45x18mm)
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The Tesla gun from Warehouse 13 and... Vera Claudia. =D
ftfy
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Random thought right before falling asleep last night. M1 Carbine in .38 Super. Not quite a .357 but close. And then you could have a 1911 in .38 to go along with it.
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How about just reviving the 1903 Colt, but offering it in some CC-friendly DuraCoated stainless, with a barrel and recoil spring kit to convert it to .25NAA for the .32ACP version and .32NAA for the .380?
Because that would be like comparing a Vespa to a Kawasaki Ninja.....a 5.7x28 in a slim pocket pistol would be a lot of punch in a small package. Kinda like the Russian 5.45x18 "vest puncher"....
Yep. I picture a very attractive little pistol.
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The Tesla gun from Warehouse 13 and... Vera Claudia.
ftfy
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Well played.
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Small-frame 5-shot top-break alloy frame snubbie in 9mm (moon clips) with the cylinder shortened to accommodate the 9mm.
a 7 shot in titanium would be nifty.
a 223 carbine that could be converted to 22lr without a losable chamber adapter.
a m6 style action survival rifle chambered in 22lr over 6.5 grendel with indestructable optics.
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While we're fantasizing....
I'd like to see BATFE screw off and die, and all the ridiculous taxes, stamps and restrictions go the way of the dinosaur.
After that, I'd like to see a survival revolver with a stock that can be attached, as well as a screw on barrel extension to make it have a longer barrel. Since we're dreaming and all that.
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Another want:
16" Lever gun in .45 ACP.
In cowboy action shooting they developed the 45 Cowboy Special. The idea was to shorten the 45 Colt round to ACP length, and the reduced capacity would make for better light loads and the empties will eject from the SA revolvers easier. In that game it makes life more harmonious if you shoot the same round in the rifle and handgun, so this guy makes carriers to get regular 45 Colt lever actions to feed the short round too. I don't know if the part is drop in or if some fiddling is required, but it sure would hold enough rounds to violate the 10 round magazine limit!
http://www.cowboy45special.com/cowboy45brass.html
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Zombie thread!!
Moar:
Keltec's new KSG in semi auto.
Keltec RFP in 762x39 accepting AK mags and under $1000. I'd buy two.
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Ruger LCR with a 3-4" barrel, adjustable sights, and chambered in 22lr. Maybe with 7-9 shots...
Chris
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If anyone agrees with me, comment on this facebook thread at Kel-tec. Maybe we can get a fire under their ass:
Kel Tec Facebook page comments (http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=498115849639&id=376139184639¬if_t=feed_comment)
Big poppa wants RFP in 7.62x39 that accepts AK mags. WANT!
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Vera
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Vera
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Working on it. =D
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My lifelong dream is to own a modern replica of an old fashioned, hand-cranked Gatlin Gun that is chambered for the twelve gauge, three and one half inch magnum turkey load, and a set of ten or so twenty five round stick magazines for it. This way it would theoretically be able to fire pretty much any twelve gauge shell you could find.
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^^^^ With dreams like that, you'll fit in just fine here. Welcome.
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I was under the impression that gaitling guns are reletivly easy to make.
Of course, easy to make and easy to legally own are to very diffrent things... =(
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I was under the impression that gaitling guns are reletivly easy to make.
Of course, easy to make and easy to legally own are to very diffrent things... =(
Hand-cranked Gatling guns are legal, afaik.
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Then we need to outlaw those high-capacity assault hands.
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Ruger LCR with a 3-4" barrel, adjustable sights, and chambered in 22lr. Maybe with 7-9 shots...
Chris
If it was capable of SA fire I think I would buy one. I liked the ultralight S&W from a few years back but the price was pretty steep for a 22.
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Mine's a repeater with a 14(LR)-round tube mag under the barrel.
If it ejects properly, you're lucky if the next round pops into the carrier properly. If that happens, you're lucky if it makes the trip to the chamber, and doesn't jam against the back of the barrel when you try to send it home.
My dad could work it pretty good when he was teaching me to shoot. Now that it's mine, I can't figure out the magic touch.
Must have been one of the rich kids to have the Ithaca 49 repeater. :laugh:
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I want a .22 with the ergonomics of the Whitney Wolverine, but simpler construction, with higher quality than the original, or the plastic one from Olympic Arms.
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If it was capable of SA fire I think I would buy one. I liked the ultralight S&W from a few years back but the price was pretty steep for a 22.
I never understood the obsession with SA fire in a DA revolver. Why not just buy a SA revolver in the first place.
Yes, I shoot almost exclusively DA with my DA revolvers.
Chris
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I never understood the obsession with SA fire in a DA revolver. Why not just buy a SA revolver in the first place.
Agreed....not to mention that the LCR trigger is a lot smoother than any DA .22lr trigger, and I would love to have one...