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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Monkeyleg on January 26, 2012, 05:45:18 PM
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The title says it all. Get in your points before thread lock. ;)
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More liberty = More awesome!
IBTL
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Yes, Yes, Yes, ?, No, ?
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Yes, Yes, Yes, ?, No, ?
What he said.
What, are you making a chart?
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If a "gay gene" is discovered, and can be screened for prenatally, will teh geys seek to outlaw abortion?
If so, will they form a third party to do so, or will they join the Republican Party?
If the latter, will they be true Republicans, or just RINOs?
Got nothing for the last two, sorry.
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Third party marraige
Abort the RINOs
Drugs that make you feel gay
War on cops
???
[popcorn]
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The title says it all. Get in your points before thread lock. ;)
"Abortions for some, little American flags for others!"
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If I hump a shoe, is it necrophilia because it's not alive? Or is it rape because it can't consent?
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If I hump a shoe, is it necrophilia because it's not alive? Or is it rape because it can't consent?
Is it made of leather or synthetic materials?
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The fertility cults are battling the accountants. Who will win?
(And who will care?)
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Most of the issues dealing with imposing or protecting morality are distractors used by the political establishment to polarize the electorate. It keeps us pitted against each other, instead of turning on the Government.
The War on Drugs was the foot in the door for the Police State. The BOR has been continuously molested by the Government since it began.
Third party candidates are a must if we want any chance of breaking free from the political gauntlet we find ourselves in. There is little difference between the Rs and the Ds. We need to get over the right-left divide because they are the same party, serving the same interests. RINOs are a good example of this. Vote for the issues not the Party.
Cops... there are good cops and bad cops... but the good cops seem content to do nothing about the bad ones. Current training makes the Police-Civilian interaction more of a occupation force patrolling a hostile population than Concerned citizens protecting their community.
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1) nonsensical word formulation
2) opposed, until it can be proven we are nothing more than bio/chemical machines.
3) willing to listen
4) worse than committed liberals for the union
5) physically addictive substances should be regulated, some lightly others heavily
6) mixed bag, some good some bad
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Liberty for ALL!
Unless i find your habits or lifestyle icky.
In which case, screw you!
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Government sanction or legal approval is not the definition of liberty. The constitution presupposes we are born with inalienable rights bestowed upon us from the architect of life and creation. Bio/chem machines do not have rights, society grants them entitlements at the whim of the majority or elite. Those entitlements can be just as easily denied on a whim. Rights are worth fighting for for this very reason. Life, liberty and property are intertwined in what it means to be truly human.
There is a legitimate government role in regulating drugs like heroin or meth. The case for regulating booze and pot is very weak.
The libertarian position should be to get government out of marriage altogether. This is and has been my position for years. As an entitlement I oppose its expansion just as I oppose the expansion of all the other entitlements.
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Whatever answer leads to more individual freedom. Even freedom to do things that I find [barf] so long as it doesn't reduce the liberty of anyone else. That is my guiding star.
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Most of the issues dealing with imposing or protecting morality are distractors used by the political establishment to polarize the electorate. It keeps us pitted against each other, instead of turning on the Government.
Every political issue is one of morality. Our political discussions will become much more productive when we all internalize this.
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Liberty for ALL!
Unless i find your habits or lifestyle icky.
In which case, screw you!
Do I have to affirm your icky lifestyle and pretend that it's wholesome and good? Or just leave you alone and tend to my own ickiness? (how about if I also quietly judge you?)
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Yes to married gay cops on drugs fighting a war against rinos.
Holy cow, I really need to get to sleep.
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Yes to married gay cops on drugs fighting a war against rinos.
I'd fork over some money to see that. [popcorn]
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Yes, Maybe, Yes, No, No, Maybe.
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Nuke all the unborn gay communist stoner whales for Christ.
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I'll pretty much go with Ron Paul's position on this......
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I'll pretty much go with Ron Paul's position on this......
What is Ron Paul's position on..... unborn gay communist stoner whales for Christ.
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What is Ron Paul's position on
..... unborn gay communist stoner whales for Christ.
The Fed is to blame.
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The Fed is to blame.
....AGAIN?!?!???!
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Unless it was our meddling in the Middle East.
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RON PAULLL!!!!!!
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From Gov. Moonbeam to President Moonbase.
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:lol:
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No. I'm opposed to marriage in general. Laws are too screwed up.
No.
Sure.
Should be an endangered species, not GOP presidential candidates.
I want LSD.
Que?
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I don't think it's possible to believe in evolution and a "gay gene" at the same time.
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I don't think it's possible to believe in evolution and a "gay gene" at the same time.
Why? Hemophilia is a genetic trait and it hasn't selected out.
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>If a "gay gene" is discovered, and can be screened for prenatally, will teh geys seek to outlaw abortion? <
I know this was meant as a joke. But I am SO stealing it for the next time I'm debating politics with my new coworkers
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Why? Hemophilia is a genetic trait and it hasn't selected out.
Exactly. Being gay doesn't preclude reproducing, it just means you'd rather bump uglies with members of the same sex. People do both all the time.
Chris
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Why? Hemophilia is a genetic trait and it hasn't selected out.
Because of the vastly lowered chances of breeding. I should think that would be obvious. Maybe there are some geneticists on the board who could further enlighten me, but it seems to me that a trait which reduces your chances of breeding by X percent would select out relatively quickly (in historic terms) for X > 1, longtail logarithmic probability notwithstanding. I am not sure what the X for hemophilia is, nor for homophilia, but I would be willing to bet the latter is double-digits and the former quite a bit lower.
Now, the point could be raised that societal pressure has resulted in a smaller than natural X in this case, but in the history of man, it would seem too little too late to support the "gay gene" theory.
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>If a "gay gene" is discovered, and can be screened for prenatally, will teh geys seek to outlaw abortion? <
I know this was meant as a joke. But I am SO stealing it for the next time I'm debating politics with my new coworkers
I put it forward in a light-hearted vein, but some people are quite serious about it. Personally, I think it could lead to the criminalization of "hate-abortions" against homosexual infants. It sounds stupid when I actually type it out, but we have seen goofier things come to pass, haven't we?
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Are homosexual genes made of leather ???
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I put it forward in a light-hearted vein, but some people are quite serious about it. Personally, I think it could lead to the criminalization of "hate-abortions" against homosexual infants. It sounds stupid when I actually type it out, but we have seen goofier things come to pass, haven't we?
I hate to use this term to describe abortion... but wouldn't it be interesting if they suddenly adopted the position that it was ok to kill a baby, so long as it wasn't a gay baby?
I think they would, because such is the hypocrisy of the American Left
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I personally know more than a few pro-life gays. Lots of folks don't fall neatly into the left/right column.
Of course, the pro-life gays would not be welcome by many on the right, as these folks are also for allowing gay couples to marry and adopt.
We already have thought-crime type laws in some states concerning sex-selective abortion.
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We already have thought-crime type laws in some states concerning sex-selective abortion.
Well, that sounds fascinating. I have not heard that before.
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Because of the vastly lowered chances of breeding. I should think that would be obvious. Maybe there are some geneticists on the board who could further enlighten me, but it seems to me that a trait which reduces your chances of breeding by X percent would select out relatively quickly (in historic terms) for X > 1, longtail logarithmic probability notwithstanding. I am not sure what the X for hemophilia is, nor for homophilia, but I would be willing to bet the latter is double-digits and the former quite a bit lower.
Now, the point could be raised that societal pressure has resulted in a smaller than natural X in this case, but in the history of man, it would seem too little too late to support the "gay gene" theory.
That supposes a very simplistic view of how it may passed along. Many genes are passed from one generation to the next with out them manifesting a given characteristic.
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What we really need to know is everyone's position on the consumption of aborted fetuses. Would it change if they were gay fetuses? ???
http://consumerist.com/2012/01/legislator-calls-for-ban-on-imaginary-practice-of-using-aborted-fetuses-in-food-products.html (http://consumerist.com/2012/01/legislator-calls-for-ban-on-imaginary-practice-of-using-aborted-fetuses-in-food-products.html)
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Well, that sounds fascinating. I have not heard that before.
Arizona, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Illinois have laws forbidding race and/or sex-selective abortion. AZ, for instance, requires the Dr. to sign an affidavit for every abortion performed stating that they do not believe it is a race or sex selective one.
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Arizona, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Illinois have laws forbidding race and/or sex-selective abortion. AZ for instance requires the Dr. to sign an affidavit for every abortion performed stating that they do not believe that it is a race or sex selective one.
I don't understand what the fakk people are thinking nowadays....
So, you can kill a kid because you're an irresponsible dirtbag who can't take care of your responsibilities...
But How Dare You (tm) if it is because you're having a boy instead of a girl, or vice versa.
WHat's the affadavit say?
"I, Dr so-and-so, do swear under penalty of perjury that Mr and Mrs dingbat didn't get an abortion because they wanted a boy, but rather because they simply don't want the inconvenience of taking care of their responsibilities."
Dear God, if you plan on ending the world, please do it soon. We are tumbling through the abyss.
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Because of the vastly lowered chances of breeding. I should think that would be obvious. Maybe there are some geneticists on the board who could further enlighten me, but it seems to me that a trait which reduces your chances of breeding by X percent would select out relatively quickly (in historic terms) for X > 1, longtail logarithmic probability notwithstanding. I am not sure what the X for hemophilia is, nor for homophilia, but I would be willing to bet the latter is double-digits and the former quite a bit lower.
You also need to consider if possession of a certain allele, deleterious to oneself, somehow makes your relatives more likely to reproduce. Bad for you, good for your genes.
Also, consider sickle cell. IIRC (been a long while), homozygous means you die of it. Heterzygous means you might be a bit weaker, but more likely to survive malaria.
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If there is a gay gene, why hasn't the Human Genome Project found it?....
....And, when they do, will it figure predominantly inan upcoming CSI-Wherever episode?....
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Arizona, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Illinois have laws forbidding race and/or sex-selective abortion. AZ, for instance, requires the Dr. to sign an affidavit for every abortion performed stating that they do not believe it is a race or sex selective one.
Based on some local newspaper articles some years ago, I believe British Columbia in Canada may have a similar law or at least they were considering it at one time. I believe it was in response to certain immigrant populations doing abortions only for sex selection. Some of those populations put a lot of emphasis on having male babies.
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People are starting to talk seriously about topics, which means the thread will probably be locked down soon.
Actually, I'm surprised another moderator hasn't locked it because it's really not politics. Laughing at politics, yes, but not politics.
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I don't understand what the fakk people are thinking nowadays....
So, you can kill a kid because you're an irresponsible dirtbag who can't take care of your responsibilities...
But How Dare You (tm) if it is because you're having a boy instead of a girl, or vice versa.
WHat's the affadavit say?
"I, Dr so-and-so, do swear under penalty of perjury that Mr and Mrs dingbat didn't get an abortion because they wanted a boy, but rather because they simply don't want the inconvenience of taking care of their responsibilities."
Dear God, if you plan on ending the world, please do it soon. We are tumbling through the abyss.
This could get interesting. [popcorn]
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Based on some local newspaper articles some years ago, I believe British Columbia in Canada may have a similar law or at least they were considering it at one time. I believe it was in response to certain immigrant populations doing abortions only for sex selection. Some of those populations put a lot of emphasis on having male babies.
That was the given reason for the AZ law, but the sponsors of the bill only gave examples of it happening in China and India. ???
Mind you, I am not a fan of sex/race-selective abortion, but this type of thought crime legislation, especially one that comes with felony charges and a 7-year prison sentence, is the wrong way to go about addressing the issue.
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necrophilia
has nothing to do with this thread but the necro thread got locked before I could comment
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If there is a gay gene, why hasn't the Human Genome Project found it?....
....And, when they do, will it figure predominantly inan upcoming CSI-Wherever episode?....
CSI San Francisco? :laugh:
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Barney Frank
Finally, something gayer than Twilight!
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necrophilia
has nothing to do with this thread but the necro thread got locked before I could comment
Damn shame the necro thread is dead
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Not dead, only undead...
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It may be dead but it is still there for your enjoyment.
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=33206.0
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It may be dead but it is still there for your enjoyment.
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=33206.0
That is so wrong. :laugh:
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That is so wrong. :laugh:
Yet I laughed. Proof that necrophilia is actually funny.