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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Jamisjockey on September 18, 2016, 06:25:27 AM
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Bomb goes off in New jersey on the course for a charity run.
Bomb goes off in New York, not far away, injuring many people.
Both are in trash cans. On the same day.
Oh, and a possible third device was found.
No connection to terror and no connection with the other events according to the New York police.
Uh huh.
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It was intentional, but not terrorism!
Move along, keep your tourist dollars flowing, yes yes.
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Workplace violence. Just like the mass-stabbing in the mall in St. Cloud.
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Is it just me, but the pictures of the trash can in Point pleasant look like an m80 thrown into the trash? The plastic recycling can right next to it is not even damaged.
I probably walked right past that can last weekend, we were down there last weekend.
Plus its officially the off season, if there is 10% of the normal about of people in the area. If anyone had done there homework they would have done that 2 weeks ago.
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You guys are way jumping the gun. As soon as they connect it to a white guy from the South it'll be domestic terrorism. Patience.
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We just hired a recently retired trooper at work. I'll pry some details out of him on Monday.
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I'm OK with the news soft-pedaling this. News coverage is what the bombers want.
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It was intentional, but not terrorism!
Cuomo is now saying "Okay, it's terrorism, but it's not international terrorism." As if that matters.
Meanwhile, ISIS is claiming responsibility for the mass stabbings in St. Cloud. So I guess that is international terrorism (unless they're just latching onto the report to make their reach appear greater than it really is).
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If anyone had done there homework they would have done that 2 weeks ago.
We are blessed in that adherents to the religion of peace practice a lot of cousin marriage and reap the benefits of lowered mean IQ and increased mean rate of serious birth defects. And that converts here in the USA are also largely left-hand-side-of-the-bell-curve types.
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I'm wondering why they put the bombs in dumpsters. The steel is pretty thick on those. Wouldn't that minimize damage?
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I'm wondering why they put the bombs in dumpsters. The steel is pretty thick on those. Wouldn't that minimize damage?
See roo_ster's comment.
Also, see this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PWVCzQ8_GuU
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Thanks. I thought there might be something about explosives here that I didn't understand.
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I'm wondering why they put the bombs in dumpsters. The steel is pretty thick on those. Wouldn't that minimize damage?
With enough explosive, it BECOMES the shrapnell!
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With enough explosive, it BECOMES the shrapnell!
True but its obvious they did not have/use enough. Should have just stuck with a cardboard box for it.
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I'm wondering why they put the bombs in dumpsters. The steel is pretty thick on those. Wouldn't that minimize damage?
Bombs/IEDs disguised by garbage/random debris is pretty much their thing.
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Thanks. I thought there might be something about explosives here that I didn't understand.
Testing the response time, possibly?
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Testing the response time, possibly?
Yes, a probing attack was what I was thinking as well. The perps probably could gain Intel from the attack (assuming Roo's synopsis is incorrect, though I don't see why it would be)... Set off bomb on one side of town, presumably with a bottleneck (or fatal funnel), attack a mall or church on the other side of town, and either use an ambush or block the bridge to create more chaos or cover escape.
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Well, isn't that special:
http://www.towleroad.com/2016/09/chelsea-bomber/
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I'm still waiting for the first history book that blames 9/11 on pilot error.....
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News coverage is what the bombers want.
This was my thought as well, at least until NYPD finds out who did it.
I'm sure New Yorkers are tired of being messed with.
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Well, isn't that special:
http://www.towleroad.com/2016/09/chelsea-bomber/
Ohhhhh, I can wait for the left and media to explain that away and blame it on the NRA....
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Ohhhhh, I can wait for the left and media to explain that away and blame it on the NRA....
Read the comments. They're already spinning it as a right-wing false flag op.
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Read the comments. They're already spinning it as a right-wing false flag op.
Yes, because it probably came from /pol/.
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The authorities are now saying the Chelsea bomb contained Tannerite residue. Tannerite, "...an explosive often used for target practice that can be picked up in many sporting goods stores."
Wave goodbye to using Tannerite at the range.
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The authorities are now saying the Chelsea bomb contained Tannerite residue. Tannerite, "...an explosive often used for target practice that can be picked up in many sporting goods stores."
Wave goodbye to using Tannerite at the range.
If it was Tannerite, what made it go boom? I thought Tannerite had to be detonated by significant impact.
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Suspect named as Ahmad Rahami.
Nope, no terrorism here folks. Not at all. Move it along move it along
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He (or they) have been busy. Five more devices found today (and the bomb squad detonated one of them).
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUSPICIOUS_PACKAGE_NEW_JERSEY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-19-07-18-37
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly they seem to be able to zero in on "persons of interest" after a bombing, but they never seem to know anything (or have grounds to do anything) before the explosion. Article about the suspect doesn't say much other than that he's a suspect:
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/manhattan/person-sought-connection-nyc-bombing-identified-article-1.2797960
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We have to ban trash cans....For the chilluns...
(P.S. The idea that someone "threw their device away to avoid getting caught with it" is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard...)
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Suspect named as Ahmad Rahami.
Nope, no terrorism here folks. Not at all. Move it along move it along
Not muslim. Ahm-ish.
Which would mean we are getting a better class of enemy, since we would be jumping from and enemy with a 7th-century to one with a 19th-century mindset.
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If it was Tannerite, what made it go boom? I thought Tannerite had to be detonated by significant impact.
Anything that can set up a supersonic detonation wave will do it. A bunch of flash powder tightly confined into an ersatz blasting cap might be enough. And there's additives and mixes for Tannerite that are more sensitive. Like the ones made for .22LR targets.
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Oh brother. Clinton is on the TV right now, and a reporter asked her (yes, this was the actual question), "Could this be terrorists or the Russians doing this to get Trump elected?". Hillary is responding right now saying, "I can't speculate but..." then going on to basically say "you're right".
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Oh brother. Clinton is on the TV right now, and a reporter asked her (yes, this was the actual question), "Could this be terrorists or the Russians doing this to get Trump elected?". Hillary is responding right now saying, "I can't speculate but..." then going on to basically say "you're right".
Uh-huh. Putin is going to risk nuclear war to help Trump.
Hillary is disgusting.
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Oh brother. Clinton is on the TV right now, and a reporter asked her (yes, this was the actual question), "Could this be terrorists or the Russians doing this to get Trump elected?". Hillary is responding right now saying, "I can't speculate but..." then going on to basically say "you're right".
So they're admitting that Trump would be better at handling terrorism?
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/19/person-interest-to-named-in-nyc-bombing.html
Suspect in custody.
"Today I believe we're going to find out that [the bombing] was influenced by foreign sources," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Monday on "Fox & Friends."
No *expletive deleted*it Sherlock!
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"Today I believe we're going to find out that [the bombing] was influenced by foreign sources," Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Monday on "Fox & Friends."
No *expletive deleted*it Sherlock!
Yeah, and just yesterday Cuomo was emphatic that it was not international terrorism.
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No *expletive deleted*it Sherlock!
Yeah, and just yesterday Cuomo was emphatic that it was not international terrorism.
Well according to reports he and his family have filed several discrimination lawsuits against the city where he lived and his family owns a restaurant so they will probably go back to saying home grown any second now, or maybe it was just a peaceful demonstration like those in Baltimore. It's amazing all these racist cities, Elizabeth, NJ, Baltimore, MD, Flint, MI, ... Must all be run by racist Republicans don't ya know. ;/
Except I checked and Elizabeth, NJ is entirely run by Dems. Why do Dems hate Muslims and Black people?
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But, tourism must go on. Buried in this article:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/19/chelsea-blast-suspect/
is this pearl of wisdom:
Before Rahami’s capture, Cuomo said investigators have no reason to believe there are further threats, but the public should “be on constant guard.”
To be clear -- this statement was before the suspect had been captured, and certainly before the authorities have any clue as to whether or not he is a lone wolf or part of a terrorist cell -- but there's no reason to believe there are any further threats. Right. Just like there was no reason to believe there was a threat before the bombs went off at the Boston Marathon, or before the San Bernardino shooters cut loose, or before the Orlando night club shooter opened fire.
Don't politicians like Cuomo realize how idiotic they sound and look making statements like this? They have no way of knowing whether or not there are further threats. There could easily be a dozen other terrorists out there with bombs ready to place all over NYC, right at this moment. Why would Cuomo make such a ridiculous statement? I almost hope another bomb goes off, just to demonstrate what an idiot he is (except that I don't want to see anyone hurst or killed).
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Why couldn't he have been like these guys, though?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/711262/Syrian-rebels-blow-up-selfie-explosive-phone
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I'll just leave this here:
http://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2016/09/19/stupid-twitter-of-the-day-christopher-hayes-from-msnbc/
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Semi-related: the guy who put down the Somali terrorist in Minnesota is an NRA-certified firearm instructor and 3-gun competitor:
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/19/man-shot-crossroads-mall-terrorist-uspsa-competitor-3-gun-shooter/
No word of which of the 3 guns he used. ;)
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I still think it was to cover up something else that was going on. Thank goodness nobody was killed.
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I'll just leave this here:
http://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2016/09/19/stupid-twitter-of-the-day-christopher-hayes-from-msnbc/
Saw that earlier today. Unbelievable yet not unexpected.
EDIT: Oh, and on a related note, I just now saw where Harry Reid has said we must pass gun/watch list legislation NOW to prevent this. Maybe he meant to prevent stopping the attacks, given that two terrorists used not guns and both were stopped with guns.
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Semi-related: the guy who put down the Somali terrorist in Minnesota is an NRA-certified firearm instructor and 3-gun competitor:
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/09/19/man-shot-crossroads-mall-terrorist-uspsa-competitor-3-gun-shooter/
No word of which of the 3 guns he used. ;)
All the local news is saying is he is an off-duty cop, which somehow negates the fact that the scumbag was stopped by a citizen with a concealed weapon.
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All the local news is saying is he is an off-duty cop, which somehow negates the fact that the scumbag was stopped by a citizen with a concealed weapon.
Not only off-duty, but off duty and from another jurisdiction.
Just like the off-duty cop who stopped the mall shooter in Salt Lake City (??) a couple or three years ago.
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Looks like the perp's chicken restaurant is getting some poor reviews:
http://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/People-on-Yelp-are-slamming-the-restaurant-owned-9232715.php
https://www.yelp.com/biz/first-american-fried-chicken-elizabeth
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But, tourism must go on. Buried in this article:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/09/19/chelsea-blast-suspect/
is this pearl of wisdom:
To be clear -- this statement was before the suspect had been captured, and certainly before the authorities have any clue as to whether or not he is a lone wolf or part of a terrorist cell -- but there's no reason to believe there are any further threats. Right. Just like there was no reason to believe there was a threat before the bombs went off at the Boston Marathon, or before the San Bernardino shooters cut loose, or before the Orlando night club shooter opened fire.
Don't politicians like Cuomo realize how idiotic they sound and look making statements like this? They have no way of knowing whether or not there are further threats. There could easily be a dozen other terrorists out there with bombs ready to place all over NYC, right at this moment. Why would Cuomo make such a ridiculous statement? I almost hope another bomb goes off, just to demonstrate what an idiot he is (except that I don't want to see anyone hurst or killed).
I think I read somewhere that there were supposed to be other people involved. Like he dropped a duffle bag with the stuff, and some other people were seen approaching it and doing something with it. Something like that.
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I think I read somewhere that there were supposed to be other people involved. Like he dropped a duffle bag with the stuff, and some other people were seen approaching it and doing something with it. Something like that.
Sort of, thieves picked up the bag in NY, pulled out the bomb chucked it (2nd one and broke it as well) and ran with the bag.
Homeless guys picked up the one at the train station. They dropped it and went and got the cops when they found out what was inside.
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I think I read somewhere that there were supposed to be other people involved. Like he dropped a duffle bag with the stuff, and some other people were seen approaching it and doing something with it. Something like that.
Sort of, thieves picked up the bag in NY, pulled out the bomb chucked it (2nd one and broke it as well) and ran with the bag.
Homeless guys picked up the one at the train station. They dropped it and went and got the cops when they found out what was inside.
There were news reports of them stopping a SUV connected to him and the occupants being heavily armed and having bomb making materials too, and then that disappeared. Which seems strange, cause heavily armed in NJ/NY is generally not allowed even if they weren't connected.
Of course now it comes out today his father apparently warned the FBI about him, sounds familiar.
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Suspect apparently had a notebook/diary on him:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/20/accused-new-york-new-jersey-bomber-made-several-trips-to-afghanistan-pakistan-prior-to-attacks.html
The notebook that turned up on Rahami after the shootout included writing that referenced "killing the kuffar," or unbeliever, a senior law enforcement official told The New York Times.
I'm . . . shocked?
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That article, and the Washington Post, are reporting that he had a "firearms license." I'm assuming they mean to own a firearm; not to carry one. Even so, isn't that pretty hard to get in New Jersey?
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I don't think it's all that difficult to get a ownership permit. What's nearly impossible in NJ is for an ordinary (meaning not connected) person to get a carry permit.
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Not hard to get a purchase permit. But I thought I read somewhere this guy had a rap sheet? That would make in no bueno.