NY Senate says, "YOU WILL RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!"

[roo_ster]

i am handicapped here. i lack imagination and can only use reality
if you are unarmed and contact the co you get to walk quite often
perhaps you can explain why you don't like a law that provides a lesser penalty for unarmed assault

Assault is assault.  If they can not convict, then they have not the evidence to prove assault.  Come back when they do and quit whining and asking for special treatment.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

You didn't read it either? You don't believe an unarmed action is different?  They now have an appropriate charge where some family member interferes when some LiL angel who was just turning their life around gets hauled off

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[roo_ster]

I read it.  I am just not as impressed as you seem to be.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Neither impressed nor otherwise. Definitely not buying the noise in the thread title. It's often amusing how folk react prior to reading.

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[Tallpine]

Neither impressed nor otherwise. Definitely not buying the noise in the thread title. It's often amusing how folk react prior to reading.

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You must have a lot more time to read stuff than I do. 

[MechAg94]

Okay, finally realized there was a link on the last page.  The scope of the this law appears to include harassment as well as actual assault.  I would think those should be two separate charges. 

By the letter of this law, if you tap a NY cop on the shoulder to get his attention and he feels he is annoyed, does that mean he can nab you for aggravated harrassment?  Using the term "annoy" and "alarm" and then saying only "physical contact" is needed to make it apply seems to leave it a bit wide open to me. 


It is nice to know that playing the "I'm not touching you!" game with NY cops is still legal.   

[MechAg94]

You must have a lot more time to read stuff than I do. 

In his defense THIS TIME, the link is pretty short.

[AZRedhawk44]

In his defense THIS TIME, the link is pretty short.

I'll admit I was intimidated to even read the source document since most bills nowadays require about 90 pages to say "thou shalt not steal."  And about 9000 to say "the government shall steal from you."

But this one is only about 1 page long.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

i don't blame you a bit

i like pain  i started to read the obamacare bill.  it makes my head hurt to think about it
 made it about 1/2 way

then found out i was reading the wrong version

[roo_ster]

i don't blame you a bit

i like pain  i started to read the obamacare bill.  it makes my head hurt to think about it
 made it about 1/2 way

then found out i was reading the wrong version

Tell me: Did you then feel suicidal or homicidal?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Tell me: Did you then feel suicidal or homicidal?

both
it was not easy reading

[MechAg94]

both
it was not easy reading

So C&SD, can you play "I'm not touching you" with NY cops or will you get burned?  He can be annoyed all he wants as long you don't touch him. 

It wouldn't be the first law that was broadly worded and narrowly used/enforced, but that is my main concern about it.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Law is less than one page and I posted a link. Tell me how it reads to you

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[Balog]

  S 240.33 AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER.
    A  PERSON  IS  GUILTY  OF AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR
  PEACE OFFICER WHEN, WITH THE INTENT TO HARASS, ANNOY, THREATEN OR  ALARM
  A  PERSON  WHOM HE OR SHE KNOWS OR REASONABLY SHOULD KNOW TO BE A POLICE
  OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER ENGAGED IN THE COURSE  OF PERFORMING HIS OR HER
  OFFICIAL DUTIES, HE OR SHE STRIKES, SHOVES, KICKS OR OTHERWISE  SUBJECTS
  SUCH PERSON TO PHYSICAL CONTACT.
    AGGRAVATED  HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER IS A CLASS
  E FELONY.
    S 2. This act shall take effect on the first of November next succeed-
  ing the date on which it shall have become a law.

So any physical contact the cop feels was intended to annoy him is now a felony. Yep, I don't care for it.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

shocked i'm not

 A  PERSON  IS  GUILTY  OF AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR
  PEACE OFFICER WHEN, WITH THE INTENT TO HARASS, ANNOY, THREATEN OR  ALARM
  A  PERSON  WHOM HE OR SHE KNOWS OR REASONABLY SHOULD KNOW TO BE A POLICE
  OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER ENGAGED IN THE COURSE  OF PERFORMING HIS OR HER
  OFFICIAL DUTIES, HE OR SHE STRIKES, SHOVES, KICKS OR OTHERWISE  SUBJECTS
  SUCH PERSON TO PHYSICAL CONTACT.

[MechAg94]

Law is less than one page and I posted a link. Tell me how it reads to you

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I already posted my thoughts.  Didn't you read them?  


Seriously, you have been acting like there was some loophole buried in there since the last page. 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I already posted my thoughts.  Didn't you read them?  

no sorry  i missed em

we need one of the folks so outraged to test and find out.  if there were 1/2 as many who were outraged and active on the street as there are on the internet we'd find out quick. as it is we have time for a beer and a sandwich   maybe 2

i suspect they can gig you for lesser stupidity as well  just not a felony