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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2015, 07:50:43 PM »
About the only use I have seen for nunchucks in the police arena is wrapping them around an extremity (normally wrist) and by varying the pressure making a very effective come along/compliance tool.

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This. Maybe by some super secret ninja trained martial arts phenom.

Otherwise just no. Numchucks or whatever you want to call them are basically a medieval flail. I seriously doubt most LEO's will have or continue the training required to use them for the few instances they can actually find an opportunity to get an arm or wrist lock with a set without just beating someone with them. Most LEOs can't be bothered to be proficient with a firearm and we are supposed to trust they will have ninja like abilities with Numchucks? Really?

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2015, 07:57:18 PM »
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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2015, 07:58:56 PM »
Clearly, the mall ninja has escaped the mall and infiltrated a police department.
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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2015, 08:00:15 PM »
Clearly, the mall ninja has escaped the mall and infiltrated a police department.

I think this wins the Interwebz for the day on this subject.

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2015, 08:06:22 PM »
Video of officer demonstrating to reporter:  http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/10/27/norcal-police-department-now-equipped-with-nunchucks/

Well gee wiz when the "perp" stands there and lets you slowly apply the exact technique it works fabulously. Let's see that at the speed and aggression levels of normal police encounters and evaluate this again ...

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2015, 09:18:56 PM »
Well gee wiz when the "perp" stands there and lets you slowly apply the exact technique it works fabulously. Let's see that at the speed and aggression levels of normal police encounters and evaluate this again ...

This; considering the holds they're using, I fail to see any advantage over empty-handed aikido or judo locks and controls.  The obvious disadvantage being that you're holding something that can be taken away, and has to be dealt with when you need that hand for the cuffs, gun or taser.

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2015, 10:05:06 PM »
There's a novel - I think it's 1984 - that describes the police as using "jointed truncheons." I always assumed that referred to something like nunchaku.
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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2015, 10:51:00 PM »
Well gee wiz when the "perp" stands there and lets you slowly apply the exact technique it works fabulously. Let's see that at the speed and aggression levels of normal police encounters and evaluate this again ...

This... I want to see them try to get them on a ramped up borderline personality. I just spent about 4 hours today going to the rodeo with one, it aint no fun!! :(

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2015, 11:34:04 PM »
This... I want to see them try to get them on a ramped up borderline personality. I just spent about 4 hours today going to the rodeo with one, it aint no fun!! :(

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2015, 09:46:41 AM »
There's a novel - I think it's 1984 - that describes the police as using "jointed truncheons." I always assumed that referred to something like nunchaku.

I always assumed something more like a blackjack.

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2015, 01:52:05 PM »
The leverage exerted by the use of nunchuks as a "nutcracker" type compliance device is enough to easily maim and break bones.   

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2015, 03:12:31 PM »
The leverage exerted by the use of nunchuks as a "nutcracker" type compliance device is enough to easily maim and break bones.   

This.

For 99% of the people (SWAG) the pain from these will make them comply, the rest will continue to fight and bones will be broken, ligament damage will occur and lawsuits will follow.

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2015, 10:59:35 PM »
The list of blunt weapons less suited to law enforcement work than nunchuks is very short.

I have to completely agree.  Nunchucks as a LE tool (especially since one has to practice a lot to become even mildly proficient), is a really stupid idea.  Sounds like the Good Idea Faerie was working double-overtime on this one.....
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Re: Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2015, 09:26:48 AM »
Other than "dead cat", what else is on that list?

I'll venture to say: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolas

(Though I'd LOVE to see cops running around with those.)

Morning star? War hammer?

Nerf or Wiffle bat.

The comfy chair?

Soft cushions?


Unconscious hooker.

A somewhat longer list than I expected, if we are to include field-expedient blunt weapons.

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Re: Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2015, 11:29:33 AM »
A somewhat longer list than I expected, if we are to include field-expedient blunt weapons.

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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2015, 01:48:43 PM »
This.

For 99% of the people (SWAG) the pain from these will make them comply, the rest will continue to fight and bones will be broken, ligament damage will occur and lawsuits will follow.

bob



 One of the problems is the leverage is so great, the officer may not have any "feel" for how much he is hurting the arrested. When the force applied is so little, compared to the force received. it can be very hard to modulate. This is not going to work out well.
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Re: The return of the nunchuck
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2015, 02:15:33 PM »
Donuts.

I think that's a bit of kit that will stay in the arsenal.
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