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Re: XXX Domain for Pornography - your thoughts?
« Reply #75 on: January 12, 2007, 12:13:23 PM »
fistful... I didn't even think of weirdos. Good term to use...

 Since role-playing has been mentioned...

 I was helping out at the local game shop one day. I'm standing there all alone when an older gentleman in a Packer's running suit ambles in. He wanders around a bit, then approaches me:

Packersuit: "Why do you have all this Satanic stuff here?"
Me: "What Satanic stuff is that?"
P: "All this D&D... it's Satanic!"
M: "How so?"
P: "Well... there's demons in it!"
M: "Yes... they're there to get beat-up. What's Satanic about beating up demons?"
p: "It's not in the Bible!"
M: "Ummm... neither is football..."

 I know I've posted it before, but fistful's thing about the polar bears made me think it might be appropriate to repost...

 And it wasn't TOO much troule for my wife: the nun teaching the class thought it was a valuble tool (and ordered her own copy). My point is there are some who feel ANY nudity is automaticlly "pornographic" (see Ashcroft and the statue of Justice)...

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« Reply #76 on: January 12, 2007, 03:24:53 PM »
I'm rabidly liberal in this area because social conservative fascists currently dominate the collective consciousness, leading to nonsense like this:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/12/D8MJQ0P80.html
Lawyer arrested for a polite kiss on the cheek

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D8MJCK580.html
Teacher fired and charged under Texas "peeping tom" law for filming (clothed) girls wrestling in public.
(url is at dallasnews, which sometimes requires registration; if so, use news.google.com and search for "David Ware")
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Re: XXX Domain for Pornography - your thoughts?
« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2007, 02:16:42 AM »
Should it all go away?  Yes.

Will it?  No

Should we therefore accommodate it?  Of course not. 

If you're going to provide a special place for porn pimps to hang out why not provide special hotel rooms for rapists and pedophiles?  After all, there will always be rapists and pedophiles. 

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« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2007, 03:40:17 AM »
So you equate pornography as a whole with rape and paedophilia?
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« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2007, 07:04:23 AM »
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Should it all go away?  Yes.

Will it?  No

Should we therefore accommodate it?  Of course not.

If you're going to provide a special place for religious followers to hang out why not provide special hotel rooms for rapists and pedophiles?  After all, there will always be rapists and pedophiles.

There's no content or actual argument presented in that quote.  It can be applied to anything you or I don't like, so you might want to think twice before waving it about... particularly when you know it's going to generate a reaction from those on the other side of the issue.
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« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2007, 06:22:59 PM »
all for it (xxx for porn) I think they should stop calling it adult though.
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« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2007, 08:23:03 PM »
Count me as one... just looked at some. Unless, of course, y'all expect me to rape my wife tonight, or something...

Don't be silly, everybody knows that you can't rape your own wiferolleyes

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« Reply #82 on: January 14, 2007, 12:55:25 AM »
>You're missing out, they smell really good.  Sometimes they'll even make you a sammich.<

Works better if you get the "obey" part in the contract. Trust me on this!

 

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« Reply #83 on: January 14, 2007, 11:42:24 AM »
No. It should all "go away".  angry

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Not really. It never has. It never will. For the most part it gives pleasure and doesn't harm people, although I believe in ferocious penalties for those forced into the business or kiddie porn (ferocious ~= hanging by the gazengas over a slow fire until their brains cook). Lord knows most of the drek out there cries out for punishment on aesthetic grounds, but that's a separate matter.

Everything mates. Everything enjoys it. We're the only species that tries to pretend otherwise smiley

And we enjoy being sexually aroused. I don't personally see anything wrong with that. Does looking at pictures or videos of adult erotica lead to rape and sexually abusing little children? There's absolutely no evidence that it does and even some recent research that suggests the opposite.

As the tagline on Sensible Erection says "It's a combination of sex and capitalism. Which part of that are you against?"  laugh

The .xxx domain isn't a bad idea. It will make filtering easier. The legit pr0n vendors will be in a place where the consenting can find them. The illegitimate can have their domain names yanked as they pop up.

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« Reply #84 on: January 14, 2007, 05:30:28 PM »
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The .xxx domain isn't a bad idea. It will make filtering easier. The legit pr0n vendors will be in a place where the consenting can find them. The illegitimate can have their domain names yanked as they pop up.

The ICANN .xxx proposals are to create .xxx, not to make it mandatory.  It won't help filter anything.  There's already a standard for labeling inappropriate content, led by the ICRA/RSACi.  It works on a per-page basis, not per-domain like mandatory .xxx would.  Web filtering software already pays attention to it.  If a porn site doesn't care enough to use voluntary filtering now, or doesn't consider itself porn, it won't voluntarily switch to .xxx to help filtering software do its job.

Making .xxx mandatory would probably be unconstitutional, and ICANN would never do that without prodding from the U.S. government.  It's not feasible, anyway.  Domain name conflicts, problems defining "porn," and a host of other insurmountable obstacles stand in the way of a mandatory porn TLD.

Non-porn sites would buy up .xxx domains just to get more traffic.

The person who has most recently sought control over the .xxx TLD is a gold digger who wants the TLD in order to charge monopoly-level prices ($60 each) for domains: http://news.com.com/2010-1026-5176611.html

If that weren't enough, even social conservatives -- who you'd think would support .xxx in the hope that it would eventually become mandatory -- don't support it.  ICANN killed the .xxx proposal last spring because of pressure from the social conservative junta in the U.S. government.  They think that giving porn its own TLD somehow legitimizes it.  http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/11/icann_kills_xxx/
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Re: XXX Domain for Pornography - your thoughts?
« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2007, 11:53:22 AM »
Tellner,

I think you missed the point of my post...
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« Reply #86 on: January 20, 2007, 11:39:51 AM »
Ironically, this mention of role-playing games has reminded me of an instance where I did accidently go to a porn site.  I was trying to access Jack Chick's website, to find his absurd depiction of the evils of Dungeons and Dragons (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp).  Ironic how the difference between a religious whacko and a hard-core porn site is just one letter "s".

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« Reply #87 on: January 22, 2007, 03:10:45 PM »
I've never met a Christian who didn't view Jack Chick the way serious shooters view DEA agents who are professional enough for their Glock "foty's."

Except maybe my Mom, but she has some craziness issues herself.
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« Reply #88 on: January 22, 2007, 04:25:03 PM »
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By espousing that all porn should go away he is saying that all porn should go away.  That has nothing to do with thought control.  It doesn't have anything to do with legislation.

So, what did he/she/it actually mean? Let's put it another way. What would be reasonable to construe in "All guns should go away." ? We weren't born yesterday. If that is not to be construed, a clarification is required.

As far as porn goes, limiting it or banning it in any way will have serious problems with freedom of speech and freedom in general. The "practical" arguments in favor of a ban are remarkably similar to the "practical" arguments for gun bans: "for the children", "nobody normal needs it", "prove usefulness or away with it", "protect innocents from abuse", "what if they fall in the wrong hands". It is all hogwash that a simple exercise in logic will reveal for what it is.

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« Reply #89 on: January 22, 2007, 04:27:45 PM »
I've never met a Christian who didn't view Jack Chick the way serious shooters view DEA agents who are professional enough for their Glock "foty's."

Oh, I've known some.  We had some talk show hosts here in Saint Louis who didn't seem to have a problem with him.  They also liked Kent Hovind and talked to Alex Jones every Tuesday.  They were a hoot. 

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« Reply #90 on: January 22, 2007, 07:14:29 PM »
Alex Jones..... he's the moderately crazy conspiracy guy, right?
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« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2007, 07:16:46 PM »
Alex Jones..... he's the moderately crazy conspiracy guy, right?

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