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Re: Prom, The Bittersweet story
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2007, 07:36:49 AM »
You're upset that your prom date doesn't want a long-term relationship?

Dude, as my parents said decades ago, "There's other fish in the ocean".  Remember that.  Do some comparison shopping, will ya? 
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Re: Prom, The Bittersweet story
« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2007, 09:00:30 AM »
I didn't think so, I have lived one year outside of a university town since graduation and it took me about a weekend to realize if I wanted to date someone I needed to look for single women over 30. It probably helped that I had a steady job, didn't live with mom and wasn't into meth.

That's an excellent point Smiley  I should have said, it's harder to meet girls your own age after college.  They all seem to disappear after they graduate, or get married, or date someone much older/richer than you.  On the other hand, single women 30 and up are generally done with all the stupid games the graduates are playing in full force, and appreciate qualities like intelligence and hardwork over a pretty face or fat wallet.

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Re: Prom, The Bittersweet story
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2007, 04:25:19 PM »
vodka7: the poem is Nirvana, one that Tom Waits did a spoken bit for with a bit of a pump organ in the background. it was wonderful, i love it. I kind of associate myself with that young man in the poem.

i have one book of his poems, and i think i'll get Women next. it was suggested to me.

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Re: Prom, The Bittersweet story
« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2007, 10:02:26 AM »
vodka7: the poem is Nirvana, one that Tom Waits did a spoken bit for with a bit of a pump organ in the background. it was wonderful, i love it. I kind of associate myself with that young man in the poem.

i have one book of his poems, and i think i'll get Women next. it was suggested to me.

~tmm

No offense, you really can't understand how great Women is unless you've been in at least one really crazy relationship.  I read it when I was your age and didn't get anywhere near what I got out of it when I read it after college.  Since you're just finishing high school, Ham on Rye may be a good place to start.  Post Office is always a classic.  Factotum and especially Pulp can wait until much, much later.

I just read Nirvana, and if that's the type of Buk you like, you really might want to consider waiting on Women.  Any of his books of poetry, especially the Black Sparrow stuff, will be a better place to continue. (I have issues with the quality control at City Lights.  As scary as it was to see Buk's on a HarperCollins imprint now, they're still edited by John Martin, his longtime friend and publisher.)

If you want any specific recommendations, feel free to PM me, I look for Buk every time I'm in a library or a bookstore, and I've read dozens and dozens of his books.

Actually, you should also check the library for some John Fante books.  He was one of Buk's favorite authors, and they became very close late in life (Buk has a few poems about being at Fante's deathbed.)  His books are a little more upbeat than Buk's, and a little closer in style to Nirvana.  Check out 1933 Was A Bad Year if you can find it.  Most places will have Ask the Dusk, which is good but derails a bit towards the end.  I'd recommend skipping his later works (the wine trilogy, the posthumous stuff on Black Sparrow) until you're sure you really like him.

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Re: Prom, The Bittersweet story
« Reply #54 on: May 30, 2007, 10:56:57 AM »
Google "Ross in Range"  immediately.  Read all the articles.  Don't fall for "Oneism".

(I really wish I had read them 20 years ago....)
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Re: Prom, The Bittersweet story
« Reply #55 on: May 30, 2007, 11:14:04 AM »
Ross is down for remodel last I checked. 

I was looking to link a bitter woman to his Maureen Dowd essay.  To fan the fires because I like pushing buttons.

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Re: Prom, The Bittersweet story
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2007, 09:08:02 PM »
First off TMM, I want to tell you that I read your original post and skimmed through the replies without paying much attention.  So this may seem disconnected from the conversation.  If so, my apologies.

I finally made a friend of this one particular beauty while at college.
We saw into one another's souls, felt comfortable with each other like a relational pair of old jeans.  (how's THAT for turning a romantic phrase???)  rolleyes

It was so obvious we really didn't even have to talk about it.
In fact, we were chasing each other around a tree on the Humanities building lawn one fall day, laughing our heads off.  She looked up and said "when are we gonna get married?" I said "how about after lunch?" or something.
It was something we both just totally knew.

Despite life's ups and downs, we celebrated 23 years of marriage (and 3 kids) last week.

It'll shine when it shines.