Author Topic: You know how Chicago cops are always barfighting? Well, now they get M4's.  (Read 4561 times)

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Daley makes Chicago even more...uh...fun? Now the cops can fight with more than pool cues when they get drunk. And how can this be! Guns are banned in Chicago. Criminals don't have any. Right?

Also, what's a "semi fully-automatic weapon"?  rolleyes

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Daley: Chicago police to get assault rifles

Tribune staff report

2:55 PM CDT, April 26, 2008

Mayor Richard Daley said Saturday Chicago police officers will he armed with high-powered assault rifles when they're on the streets fighting gangs and other criminals.

"Many times they're outgunned, to be very frank," Daley said at an event in the Englewood neighborhood. "When they come to a scene, someone has a semi fully-automatic weapon and you have a little pistol, uh, good luck."

The city's police officers carry pistols, and Daley suggested they will start carrying "M4 rifles."

Police spokeswoman Monique Bond said the department still is working out details about the M4 carbines.

"It's very preliminary. It's really under review. It is something being reviewed. As far as all of the logistics, the training component, might be premature to discuss it at this point," Bond said.

Daley pointed out that the Illinois State Police, Chicago SWAT units and other police departments around the country already carry high-powered assault weapons. He said the weapons will better match the Chicago police officers against criminals with sophisticated weapons, such as high-powered assault rifles.

"We're finding out that the weapons of criminals are getting bigger and bigger, AK47s, all types of different weapons, because they can carry assault weapons, it's not a violation of federal law, and that is a concern for all of us," he said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-chicago-police-assault-rifles,0,2104512.story

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Maybe Daley can get Obama to explain it.
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Personally, I never minded police being properly equipped and armed.  Nor do most people.   I do have an issue when they are complicant with disarming the population while crowing they need assault rifles, APC's, M2's, etc.  That is a bit worrisome.
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You said "police".

I'm talking about Chicago cops. If you don't know what I'm talking about, ask someone who has lived there. smiley

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Also, what's a "semi fully-automatic weapon"?  rolleyes

And what's a "high powered assault weapon"?  A B.A.R?  I guess an AK would qualify as "high-powered."  Just barely.


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"We're finding out that the weapons of criminals are getting bigger and bigger, AK47s, all types of different weapons, because they can carry assault weapons, it's not a violation of federal law, and that is a concern for all of us," he said. 


Huh?  Is he saying that criminals carrying assault weapons is not a violation of federal law?  Isn't that a BIG FAT LIE?  But who cares about federal gun laws, when you're in freaking CHICAGO, where it is illegal to even think about guns.  Hello? 
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CPD is an ongoing continual criminal enterprise.  I do not understand why Chicago is arming criminals.

I would move to declare Chicago a state and then declare it to be a Terrorist State and begin bombing.

Someone on THR described Chicago best:  Rhodesia ruled by Homer Simpson.  I would add a fatter and dumber Homer Simpson.
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Seems the body count for this week alone is up to 47, including a pastor who was shot after running to help someone ambushed in a gang thing as they got off a bus. Sounds like the gangs are having at it.

Will people realize that only the law-abiding are obeying the gun bans?

Nah. The Chicago cops will get M4s, the criminals will stay heavily armed, the law-abiding citizens...well, they're screwed, unless they have Daley connections and get special permits. In which case, they're not exactly law-abiding citizens.

Buy body armor and learn to duck, I guess, if you have to live there.

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M4 with the switch probably. They will do anything to keep the cost of .223 up.

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Buy body armor and learn to duck, I guess, if you have to live there.
Body armor won't help against the newly up-armed criminal organization known as the CPD.  Ducking isn't an effective defense either, unless you think you can go all Matrixy.

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Personally, I never minded police being properly equipped and armed.  Nor do most people.   I do have an issue when they are complicant with disarming the population while crowing they need assault rifles, APC's, M2's, etc.  That is a bit worrisome.

Law Enforcement should be allowed to use ONLY what we the citizens are allowed.

Meaning, if full auto is banned for us, it is banned for them. If we cannot keep a loaded rifle in the car, neither can they. And so on.

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Buy body armor and learn to duck, I guess, if you have to live there.
Body armor won't help against the newly up-armed criminal organization known as the CPD.  Ducking isn't an effective defense either, unless you think you can go all Matrixy.

I was being facetious. It won't help the citizens of Chicago when adrenaline-high or perhaps even drunk Chicago cops send missed rounds of 5.56 ball through the walls of their homes in such a dense urban area, either.

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Is the CPD even getting training to go along with their new rifles?  Handing over M4s to the CPD without training is like handing out Ferraris to a school full of 15 year old boys without driving lessons. 

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CPD gets almost no training with their pistols.  They will get next to no training with their M4s.
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I would move to declare Chicago a state and then declare it to be a Terrorist State and begin bombing.

That idea is full of win. The new Axis of Evil: Chicago, NYC, New Jersey, Taxachussets. cheesy
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Only with body armor, plenty of ammo, and artillery support! 

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Daley was running his pie hole for camera time and to be seen as "doing something".

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Police spokeswoman Monique Bond said the department still is working out details about the M4 carbines.

"It's very preliminary. It's really under review. It is something being reviewed. As far as all of the logistics, the training component, might be premature to discuss it at this point," Bond said.

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The problem is not with the guns, it's with the mindset.

Have you people considered hiring Blackwater to help with police duty? IIRC that's still legal.
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