Chinese sculptor making MLK D.C. memorial statue look like a dictator

[Manedwolf]

The hell? That looks like a communist party leader. Confrontational, arms crossed, unapproachable. That doesn't look like any King photo I've ever seen. Wasn't he aways gesturing, reaching up, out, talking?

I think it's time to drop the stupid imported sculpture and start over. Especially since the sculptor is, in fact, a Communist Party member who has done works of Mao as well. How does that honor Dr. King?

[wmenorr67]

Looks like Che doing the sculpture.

[MicroBalrog]

Why, exactly, is it being contracted out to a bloody member of the Chinese Communist Party?

Are there not people to make a sculpture who are not members of groups opposed to everything King (and America) stand for?

[El Tejon]

Why, exactly, is it being contracted out to a bloody member of the Chinese Communist Party?

Ummm, because King was talking like a Maoist before he was murdered?

A fitting tribute to King and everything he stood for.

[Manedwolf]

Why, exactly, is it being contracted out to a bloody member of the Chinese Communist Party?

Ummm, because King was talking like a Maoist before he was murdered?

A fitting tribute to King and everything he stood for.

O_o

I've got to say, that's the first time outside some very unpleasant and virulent websites that I've ever seen that opinion expressed on a web forum.

Ever.

[Bigjake]

Why, exactly, is it being contracted out to a bloody member of the Chinese Communist Party?

Ummm, because King was talking like a Maoist before he was murdered?

A fitting tribute to King and everything he stood for.

I don't really know much about king past the basics, do you have a link or was that tongue in cheek?

[El Tejon]

Mane, it's no secret.  That's why he was in Memphis.  Does not mean it was O.K. to murder him by any means, just that King had moved very far left and "civil rights" had become a stalking horse for communism.

Big, it's exactly what the "smoking man" on "X Files" said about King.

It is very fitting that King's monument be designed by a Chinese Communist.

[Bigjake]

Interesting, I was unaware of that.  I guess it's really no shock, the public schools I attended only taught that the man was a saint like martyr killed by some toothless racist hick.

[SomeKid]

Interesting, I was unaware of that.  I guess it's really no shock, the public schools I attended only taught that the man was a saint like martyr killed by some toothless racist hick.

Kind of a hint don't you think?

[The Annoyed Man]

Looks like Che doing the sculpture.

Sort of looks like Che being the model as well .

[RocketMan]

Big, it's exactly what the "smoking man" on "X Files" said about King.

Granted, King had some socialist tendencies.  There are any number of articles one can google up that document that.
But to quote a fictional character on a fictional television show that constantly highlighted conspiracies as a source?  Either I missed the sarcasm smiley, or EL T has not had his coffee today.

[Bigjake]

Interesting, I was unaware of that.  I guess it's really no shock, the public schools I attended only taught that the man was a saint like martyr killed by some toothless racist hick.

Kind of a hint don't you think?

Probably, but as a teenager, I could've cared less.  It made sense and the way they beat on it just made me roll my eyes.  Given the current state of the "black" leadership and politics, it makes sense.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

if you read much of his less public stuff you are forced at agree ith j edgar hoover regarding kings leftist leanings

[De Selby]

It made sense that King was a leftist-what was the right offering at that time to blacks in America?

The fact is that in those days, right-wing Capitalism appeared to be a proven failure for racial minorities compared to the more left-leaning societies in Europe.  It would've been not only silly, but pathetic in exactly the "yes master" way to support the very same establishment and socio-political system that had just claimed for a good 150 years that blacks were incapable of participating as full citizens in their own country.

Note that this doesn't mean "communism is good for minorities!", just that in those years, it would've been breathtakingly dumb to go around supporting guys like Hoover and shouting the "good ol' fashioned American way!".  The American system did not work for minorities in those days, and they rightly rebelled against it and looked for alternatives.  We might not have been living in a country that has made as much progress in terms of racial equality today if they had not done so.

I salute the civil rights leaders, leftist or not, for forcing the issue and helping to make America a better place to live.

[anygunanywhere]

I have always wondered why the actions and words of the minority community held no resemblance to the words in MLK's famous "I have a dream" speech.

Anygunanywhere

[Bigjake]

I have always wondered why the actions and words of the minority community held no resemblance to the words in MLK's famous "I have a dream" speech.

Anygunanywhere

yeah.

I could've went through life happily thinking of the "To be judged by the content of his character, and not by the color of his skin." quote when MLK was mentioned and been happily oblivious.

[Perd Hapley]

Big, it's exactly what the "smoking man" on "X Files" said about King.

Granted, King had some socialist tendencies.  There are any number of articles one can google up that document that.
But to quote a fictional character on a fictional television show that constantly highlighted conspiracies as a source?  Either I missed the sarcasm smiley, or EL T has not had his coffee today.

There's a difference between citing (or even quoting) someone as a source, and quoting (or citing) them as having made a good summary of your point.  IOW, he wasn't necessarily relying on the cancer man as a source, just pointing to him as a pop-culture reference that reflected the truth.   

[MicroBalrog]

shootingstudent, I recommend that you read Markets and Minorities as to what capitalism offers, and offered, and continues to offer to Blacks, Greens, Blues, and any other minorities.

[De Selby]

shootingstudent, I recommend that you read Markets and Minorities as to what capitalism offers, and offered, and continues to offer to Blacks, Greens, Blues, and any other minorities.

Thanks for the recommendation, I iwll check it out.

I was trying to say, in any case, that the representatives of the system were the ones with the problem...not that it was something inherent in capitalism. 

[MicroBalrog]

Yes, that's a valid point indeed - and it helped that Marxism is generally an anti-racialist ideology, though of course for all the wrong reasons.

[El Tejon]

and it helped that Marxism is generally an anti-racialist ideology, though of course for all the wrong reasons.

Which is always ironic considering Marx was a racist bastard and the USSR was as racist as Rhodesia.

[MicroBalrog]

and it helped that Marxism is generally an anti-racialist ideology, though of course for all the wrong reasons.

Which is always ironic considering Marx was a racist bastard and the USSR was as racist as Rhodesia.

Oh, I don't mean Marxism is GOOD.

Consider this:

From the point of view of Marxists, any self-identifications outside class conscience is baaad, and fake, and created by the capitalist system to rule you.

For the revolution to occur you must stop thinking of yourself as a white dude or black dude, and start thinking "I am a laborer". THen you will cooperate with the black laborer against the white/black/green bourgeois.

Logically, to bring this about you must fight against racism, nationalism, sexism, etc.

[El Tejon]

Just pointing out the irony.  You forget what a "hipster" I am, Micro.

[MicroBalrog]

What IS a hipster?

[charby]

Aren't the Chinese (citizens of China) pretty racist also?