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Food relief line grows long, tense
« on: June 24, 2008, 09:56:37 AM »
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=764962
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Food relief line grows long, tense
Frustration rises, officials caught off-guard as thousands turn out for flood assistance
By ANNYSA JOHNSON, LINDA SPICE and GREG J. BOROWSKI
anjohnson@journalsentinel.com
Posted: June 23, 2008

The chaos that erupted outside Milwaukee County's main welfare office Monday over disaster-related food aid had more to do with a weak economy and crushing poverty in parts of this community than the devastating floods that swept through the state earlier this month, local government and food relief officials said.

About 3,000 people turned out for the assistance beginning at 3 a.m. Monday, creating a line that stretched several blocks around the Marcia P. Coggs Human Services Center at 1220 W. Vliet St. At least one woman said she was trampled when a crowd rushed the doors as they opened around 7:30 a.m., and dozens of Milwaukee police officers and sheriff's deputies were called to quell the scene.

"The food crisis in Milwaukee and throughout the United States is worse than many of us have realized," said Milwaukee Common Council President Willie Hines, who with other elected officials called on the community to support local food pantries.

"We expect long lines for free food in Third World countries," Hines said. "We don't expect a line of 2,500 people waiting for food vouchers" in Milwaukee. No one was seriously injured, and there were no arrests Monday, but those in line described the scene as chaotic. Many thought they would receive vouchers immediately, and frustration mounted when some learned that was not the case.

"They just went crazy down there, just totally crazy," said Charline Britt of Milwaukee, who said she was trampled when about 200 people surged forward as the doors opened.

"They kicked me in my back, stepped over my shoes," said Britt, who'd come to the center about 4:30 a.m. because her basement flooded in the recent rains.

"I fainted when I got through the door."

Last week, Gov. Jim Doyle announced that seven Wisconsin counties, including Milwaukee, had become eligible for disaster FoodShare benefits, a federally funded program that offers a month's worth of food stamps to residents who incur damage in a declared disaster and fall below an income threshold. For example, a family of four earning $2,295 this month could get a food voucher worth up to $542. Aid is provided within about seven days, according to the county.

Federal rules do not require applicants to provide proof of either flood damage or income, according to state Department of Health and Family Services Secretary Karen Timberlake. However, residents can be prosecuted for falsifying an application.

Timberlake announced late Monday that 15 additional counties, including Waukesha, Washington, Ozaukee and Dane, have qualified for the aid.

Milwaukee County Health and Human Services Director Corey Hoze said his agency processed more than 2,000 applications between Thursday and Friday without incident but was unprepared for the crush of people Monday morning.

"I don't think anybody anticipated this kind of volume," said Hoze, who called in additional staff to try to speed the process.

"I think with last week's announcement, and Juneteenth Day, it just spread tremendously fast by word of mouth," he said. "We have just been inundated."

It didn't take long Monday for state and local officials to begin pointing fingers as they struggled to understand how the Milwaukee situation devolved.

County Supervisor Elizabeth Coggs suggested it might have gone more smoothly had Milwaukee County been given more time to prepare. But the seven-day limit on applications forced the state to work quickly, Timberlake said.

Hoze said the crowd might have been mitigated had his department stuck to its original plan to dispatch its mobile unit into affected communities to process applications. It switched gears, he said, setting up at the main food stamp application process, after the governor's office issued a fact sheet listing the Coggs Center address.

Doyle's spokesman rejected the notion that its announcement might have been a factor.

"I don't want to get to the point where we're pointing fingers and placing blame," said Hoze, noting that the state and county have both beefed up staffing to speed the process the rest of the week.


Glad I've been storing the basics.

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2008, 10:01:58 AM »
1. EXPECT handouts. Check.
2. Start fights when you don't get them. Check.

Not news.

Stop the "line" arrangement. People who need food aid can apply via forms, and can pick up their food at predetermined times. Problem, solution.

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2008, 10:02:46 AM »
Oh, gosh! Things are just terrible! It must be a presidential election year.
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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2008, 10:05:36 AM »
Whether we like it or not, I fully expect a situation like we saw in the 1970s -- lots of food relieve given out. Anyone remember the generic products of that time frame? White boxes with black lettering? Cheaper than all get out?

Back then it was so many people were out of work and inflation was kicking ass.

Now it's the massive cost of gasoline and heating fuel and the increasing price of food.

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 10:24:35 AM »
Whether we like it or not, I fully expect a situation like we saw in the 1970s -- lots of food relieve given out. Anyone remember the generic products of that time frame? White boxes with black lettering? Cheaper than all get out?

Back then it was so many people were out of work and inflation was kicking ass.

Now it's the massive cost of gasoline and heating fuel and the increasing price of food.

I am quite glad I use natural gas for heating, yes. Heating oil prices for the coming winter are extremely high.

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2008, 10:25:16 AM »
Whether we like it or not, I fully expect a situation like we saw in the 1970s -- lots of food relieve given out. Anyone remember the generic products of that time frame? White boxes with black lettering? Cheaper than all get out?

Still had that in the 1980's in Iowa. Either Yellow or White packages, basic labels, ingredients, nutritional statements and really big bar codes.

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 10:33:27 AM »
I remember seeing them at a very few places in the mid to late 1980s.

Wow!

Here's an article on generic foods from 1978.

Apparently these were a movement by certain food retailers...

http://digitalnewspapers.libraries.psu.edu/Default/Skins/BasicArch/Client.asp?Skin=BasicArch&&AppName=2&enter=true&BaseHref=PLF/1978/12/30&EntityId=Ar10800

I remember a lot of generic products, including beer and cigarettes.

My family used some of them, especially things like pasta and mac and cheese and scalloped potatos. Those were quite good, along the lines of Kraft.
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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2008, 10:40:55 AM »
The thing is, I believe one of the reasons for those was packaging printing costs.

The cost of color printing has really become no more expensive than B&W now, especially if it's printed in China.

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2008, 10:52:37 AM »
The article I attached addresses the printing costs.

Printing is not as expensive as a lot of people assume it is.

The major savings were incurred from using perfectly adequate, but not first quality, ingredients, and the complete and total lack of advertising of the products.

If you ever look at, say, the cost breakdown of a box of cereal, advertising costs are the lion's share of that box's price.
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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 10:59:11 AM »
The thing is, I believe one of the reasons for those was packaging printing costs.

The cost of color printing has really become no more expensive than B&W now, especially if it's printed in China.

That leaded paint is expensive!
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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 11:26:32 AM »
The article I attached addresses the printing costs.

Printing is not as expensive as a lot of people assume it is.

The major savings were incurred from using perfectly adequate, but not first quality, ingredients, and the complete and total lack of advertising of the products.

If you ever look at, say, the cost breakdown of a box of cereal, advertising costs are the lion's share of that box's price.

It's gotten much cheaper now than it likely was, then, though, when they had to do pasteups by hand before doing the actual separations for 4-color offset.

Desktop publishing REALLY cut costs.

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 11:32:33 AM »
All I remember from back in the late '70s are the 5-pound bricks of cheese. A buddy worked in the lab at the water treatment plant and he could buy a brick of welfare cheese for $5, or maybe $4 if it was near the end of the month. The city was awash in cheap cheese.

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2008, 11:36:08 AM »
All I remember from back in the late '70s are the 5-pound bricks of cheese. A buddy worked in the lab at the water treatment plant and he could buy a brick of welfare cheese for $5, or maybe $4 if it was near the end of the month. The city was awash in cheap cheese.

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"I do not like green eggs and government cheese...

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2008, 12:25:03 PM »
All I remember from back in the late '70s are the 5-pound bricks of cheese. A buddy worked in the lab at the water treatment plant and he could buy a brick of welfare cheese for $5, or maybe $4 if it was near the end of the month. The city was awash in cheap cheese.

John
my brother was out of work for a while back in the late 70s. he used to get all kinds of cheese. so much he could never use it all. he used to get butter too, along with various other goodies.

all this proves to me is that if you depend on government, you are going to be screwed in the early days of any disaster. keep a few weeks worth of supplies where you can get to them.
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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2008, 02:25:24 AM »
I liked the goverment cheese!  My grandfather was a retired plumber who did repair work for members of his church and neighbors, many of whom paid him with goverment cheese.  Also my stepmother was Cherokee indian who recieved goverment food every month called "comodities".  Lots of canned vegies, flour, beans, and canned meat.  I didn't care much for her, but man she could really cook with those ingrediants.

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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2008, 02:28:03 AM »
America: Even the CHEESE is bigger.
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Re: Food relief line grows long, tense
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2008, 02:52:35 AM »
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