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Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« on: November 13, 2008, 11:45:38 AM »
It seems the application process to be an Obama Lackey - uhhhh - I mean employee is quite onerous as reported by the NYT.

One thing that caught my eye was this:

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The questionnaire includes 63 requests for personal and professional records, some covering applicants’ spouses and grown children as well, that are forcing job-seekers to rummage from basements to attics, in shoe boxes, diaries and computer archives to document both their achievements and missteps.

Only the smallest details are excluded; traffic tickets carrying fines of less than $50 need not be reported, the application says. Applicants are asked whether they or anyone in their family owns a gun. They must include any e-mail that might embarrass the president-elect, along with any blog posts and links to their Facebook pages.
Emphasis mine.

It doesn't explicitly say gun owners need not apply but the implication is definitely there.

That doesn't bode well for gun owners...

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Based on the article I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that many of the most qualified people to fill executive department positions won't even bother to apply. What kind of people will that leave to fill important government positions?
« Last Edit: November 13, 2008, 11:50:30 AM by Werewolf »
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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2008, 04:20:39 PM »
It seems the application process to be an Obama Lackey - uhhhh - I mean employee is quite onerous as reported by the NYT.

One thing that caught my eye was this:
Emphasis mine.

It doesn't explicitly say gun owners need not apply but the implication is definitely there.

That doesn't bode well for gun owners...

Full Article Here

Based on the article I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that many of the most qualified people to fill executive department positions won't even bother to apply. What kind of people will that leave to fill important government positions?

It will leave people that don't belong to the NRA and don't believe that the second amendment applies to the individual citizen, if at all.

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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2008, 08:09:49 PM »
I'm sure they'll need SOME gun owners. You know, so they can say, "I'm a gun owner. I grew up around guns. I come from a hunting family. So I also know that no one needs..."

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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2008, 08:49:01 PM »
Did you see the actual wording?  :O

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Do any members of your family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.

Anyone doubt what the agenda will be? ANYONE?

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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2008, 08:52:14 PM »
Did you see the actual wording?  :O

Anyone doubt what the agenda will be? ANYONE?



Yep-they're clearly trying to keep Dick Cheney out of the white house crew.
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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2008, 09:45:33 PM »
Did you see the actual wording?  :O

Do any members of your family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.

Anyone doubt what the agenda will be? ANYONE?

Damn!

The question itself shows a level of ignorance regarding gun ownership that is scary. Registration? Lapsed?

Most states require no registration at all.

My answer: I own more guns than you've allowed space to list. None have ever been registered and none ever will be because I live in a free state not a socialist hell-hole. So I guess that means no registration has ever lapsed. All are used by me. Some for fun, some for competion. Ted Kennedy's car has caused more personal injury than any of my guns. Property damage? Hmmm... does poking holes in paper from a long ways a way count?
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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2008, 12:01:27 AM »
Did you see the actual wording?  :O

Anyone doubt what the agenda will be? ANYONE?


registration information? What if you live on a place like most of America where you don't need to register firearms?

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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2008, 01:55:46 AM »
Ssh!  Don't tell them that most guns don't need to be registered.  They'll surely see that as a problem that needs to be fixed.

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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2008, 03:41:08 AM »
registration information? What if you live on a place like most of America where you don't need to register firearms?




Assuming you're going to work for the Obama administration, they are assuming you live in DC maybe?  Never mind that Virginia doesn't register guns at all.

I guess the rationalization will be, "We need to ferret out any potential embarassments beforehand so the press can't hound our staff, blah blah blah"

I'd love to know what some of the other questions were, to guage how the rest of the questionairre went.
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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2008, 06:58:07 AM »
I'd say let's all go apply and list all the guns we own on the application.

On second thought, never mind.  =|
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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2008, 09:10:26 AM »
Sounds like they also want some exploitable stories of "damage and tragedy that guns brought to a home" to parade before the press.

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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2008, 10:29:18 AM »
Is that application legal/ethical? I know if we had something like that here at work we would get our pants sued off.

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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2008, 10:34:03 AM »
Is that application legal/ethical? I know if we had something like that here at work we would get our pants sued off.

Chicago politicians. What do you think?

Ethical? Ethical is whatever doesn't get you convicted. Anything else is fair game.

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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2008, 10:58:29 AM »
The questionaire is a hint at how Obama wants to turn the government into a more socialistic nation.  Guns will be like smokers have been treated and continue to be treated.... need not apply here.  You jump to our music or you don't play.  Freedom? What's that?
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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2008, 11:03:56 AM »
Illinois has no firearm registration. just firearm owners are registered via the ridiculous FOID program.
so I'm thinking I might not apply for director of the BATFE after all.
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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2008, 12:47:01 PM »
Illinois has no firearm registration.
Chicago does . . . and BHO is from there.
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Re: Gun Owners Need Not Apply
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2008, 01:14:55 PM »
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The questionaire is a hint at how Obama wants to turn the government into a more socialistic nation.  Guns will be like smokers have been treated and continue to be treated.... need not apply here.  You jump to our music or you don't play.  Freedom? What's that?

To quote George Orwell, you know that socialist who also wrote 1984.
"It is a commonplace that the history of civilization is largely the history of weapons......that ages in which the dominant weapon is expensive or difficult to make will tend to be ages of despotism, whereas when the dominant weapon is cheap and simple, the common people have a chance. Thus, for example, tanks, battleships, and bombing planes are inherently tyrannical weapons, while rifles, muskets, long-bows, and hand grenades are inherently democratic weapons.
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Woot on hand grenades being a democratic weapon :D

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Chicago does . . . and BHO is from there.

Probably one of those laws that "works" in Chicago but not somewhere else, for now.   :mad:
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