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I don't know how to respond to this story.  I just did not want to do a drive by.

http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2008/08/24/operation-bright-eyes-tattle-tale-utility-workers-spying-on-customers/

Cable provider Bright House Networks launched Operation Bright Eyes in 2005 in Tampa, Florida in cooperation with local and federal law enforcement agencies. So far more than 900 cable service technicians have been trained to act as the eyes and ears of the government by using tattle tale utility workers as “secret police” informing on paying customers and circumventing that pesky Fourth Amendment.

The program according to Bright House company officials has been so successful they have expanded it to Bakersfield, Orlando and Detroit in 2008. As of August 8th, 2008 Duane Brodt of Coles Marketing Communications is proud to announce the snooping program will target cable customers in Indiana.

The first Indiana launch of Operation Bright Eyes was in March after Indianapolis Metro Police Department trained more than 130 service technicians who work in Indianapolis. Two weeks later, the program launched in Carmel after Carmel Police Department trained more than 25 local service technicians. And in June, Operation Bright Eyes launched in Hendricks County following the training of nearly 25 service technicians by Brownsburg Police Department.

“Nearly 25 Bright House Networks service technicians will undergo special training Monday morning in Marion to become extra sets of eyes, ears and helping hands for Grant County residents and local law enforcement and emergency response agencies.” Says, Brodt.

These cable “spies” who receive a few hours of training are not required to notify customers that they are acting as secret informants for various government agencies. They can then act as “Confidential Informants” and with their testimony law enforcement agencies can then ask a judge for a search warrant of your home.

These government sanctioned peeping Toms are part of a larger national program called TIPS, the Terrorism Information and Prevention System the goal of the program is to recruit one million utility workers to spy on American citizens.

“Service technicians are in constant communication with our local dispatcher and with the training provided by our Grant County law enforcement agencies, they’ll know what to do and who to contact should someone need help,” said Cal Blumhorst, area manager who oversees Bright House Networks’ operations in Grant County.

So remember the next time you invite a utility worker into your home you are aiding in the illegal search of your premises and to add insult to injury you will be paying for the “privilege.”

If you oppose these illegal spying operations perhaps you should contact Bright House Networks (661)-323-4892 Email: bakersfield.customercare@mybrighthouse.com  or Duane Brodt of Coles Marketing Communications his number is (317)-571-0051 Cell: (317)-417-9322 Email: duane.brodt@colesmarketing.com. More Bright House numbers HERE.
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 02:19:05 PM »
Thats messed up! Now I'm almost glad we don't have cable. The water meter is read outside through a plastic thing. The technition just swipes a key reader over it.

In any case, how is this suposed to help fight terrorism? Any smart terrorist would be sure to hide his stuff and blend in with the local, secular population.

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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 02:38:19 PM »
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Service technicians are in constant communication with our local dispatcher and with the training provided by our Grant County law enforcement agencies, they’ll know what to do and who to contact should someone need help,”


I am getting increasingly annoyed at the idea that certain activities are in place "to help" or "for your safety". That's the justification? ;/ Does anyone actually believe this nonsense? ;/

Hey big brother, stuff it. I don't need any "double-naught spy"-types poking around in my business.
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 02:46:38 PM »
I think I figured out what I wanted to say.  It wasn't GWB that worried me about the Patriot Act, it was who came after him.  Guess who will be in charge of national security?  Guess who sees all gun owners as dangerous?  Guess who will be in charge of programs like this?  Guess who will be in charge of the Patriot Act?
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 06:12:21 PM »
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It wasn't GWB that worried me about the Patriot Act, it was who came after him

My thoughts exactly, years back.  I was afraid it would be "President Hillary and her TSA brownshirts." 
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2008, 06:28:49 PM »
do cable guys get in your house uninvited? make a note  hide contraband when they are scheduled
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 06:43:07 PM »
do cable guys get in your house uninvited? make a note  hide contraband when they are scheduled

So you think we should have no problems with this behavior?
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2008, 06:45:22 PM »
if this behavior somehow menaces you you have problems.  anytime anyone enters your house they get a look around.  hide the bong ammonium nitrate and anarchists cookbook. hide the grenades and kiddie porn too
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2008, 06:51:02 PM »
"Yeah, this is super secret deputy cable agent 008, I'm licensed and have my week of training. Anyway, I'm installing cable in an apartment and I can see the guy next door is cleaning a firearm. HE'S GOT A FRICKIN' ARSENAL IN THERE! Send me everything ya got..."

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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2008, 06:53:06 PM »
if this behavior somehow menaces you you have problems.  anytime anyone enters your house they get a look around.  hide the bong ammonium nitrate and anarchists cookbook. hide the grenades and kiddie porn too

There's a difference between the casual look people get when they come into the house and someone being tasked to sniff around for stuff.
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2008, 06:54:33 PM »
if this behavior somehow menaces you you have problems.  anytime anyone enters your house they get a look around.  hide the bong ammonium nitrate and anarchists cookbook. hide the grenades and kiddie porn too

Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up cassandrasdaddy, because reasonable people think all guns are bad and people that own guns and have children must be reported by the cable guy without a 6th grade education because after all if you are not a lawbreaker why worry?
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2008, 07:30:19 PM »
There's a difference between the casual look people get when they come into the house and someone being tasked to sniff around for stuff.


are they being tasked? you gleaned a great deal more info than i did.
all i got was "These cable “spies” who receive a few hours of training "
we're talking the cable guys here  they are not a serious threat. anyone who gets in your house can be a co.  what are they trained to look for? i mean really  not what you imagine they are looking for. iirc they already have the mailman and paramedics and firemen looking.


"Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up cassandrasdaddy, because reasonable people think all guns are bad and people that own guns and have children must be reported by the cable guy without a 6th grade education "

interesting statement  not sure where it comes from though.  and by the way you gotta at least ged to be a cable guy and has anyone had a cable guy report a gunowner?  i mean in real life. i know in your case gunsmith its not the case but so often when i hear folks wailing i wonder if its just they worry about their stash getting spotted
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2008, 07:36:33 PM »
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are they being tasked? you gleaned a great deal more info than i did.

By which I mean:

Normally, if some guy comes into my house and sees a bong, obviously he's going to report it. But the guy is not going to start looking for the bong if it's not already obviously there. It's not part of his job description. I'm against putting looking for the bong into his job description.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2008, 07:37:04 PM »
There's a difference between the casual look people get when they come into the house and someone being tasked to sniff around for stuff.


are they being tasked? you gleaned a great deal more info than i did.
all i got was "These cable “spies” who receive a few hours of training "
we're talking the cable guys here  they are not a serious threat. anyone who gets in your house can be a co.  what are they trained to look for? i mean really  not what you imagine they are looking for. iirc they already have the mailman and paramedics and firemen looking.


"Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up cassandrasdaddy, because reasonable people think all guns are bad and people that own guns and have children must be reported by the cable guy without a 6th grade education "

interesting statement  not sure where it comes from though.  and by the way you gotta at least ged to be a cable guy and has anyone had a cable guy report a gunowner?  i mean in real life. i know in your case gunsmith its not the case but so often when i hear folks wailing i wonder if its just they worry about their stash getting spotted

Actually, I was a cable guy for a few months, no GED required! All you needed was a truck and a pulse.
The manager was a drug user/dealer ( his heroin dealer was a friend of mine in a 12 step program )
He wouldn't report your stash, he would steal it.

I got angry at the cable company once because they messed up my schedule real bad,& I gave an entire senior citizen complex free cable!
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2008, 07:39:28 PM »
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so often when i hear folks wailing i wonder if its just they worry about their stash getting spotted

That makes them unpersons and their concerns irrelevant.

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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2008, 07:41:23 PM »
if this behavior somehow menaces you you have problems.  anytime anyone enters your house they get a look around.  hide the bong ammonium nitrate and anarchists cookbook. hide the grenades and kiddie porn too

Don't care for the insinuation.

I don't like this because it's one hell of a slippery slope, and could get out of control all too easily. What recourse would I have if a utility worker pursues this, the cops get a search warrant, and find absolutely nothing? My time, wasted, lost? Folks going through my belongings for no reason other than what a utility worker saw or what he thinks he saw? Yep, I have serious problems with that, you're right on that count.

Or, worse yet, knucklehead gets it in his head that he's now some kind of hero and needs to detain me himself?  
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2008, 07:46:17 PM »
If someone isn't worried about this, I guess they never have a copy of any gun periodicals on their coffeetable.

I guess they might never leave on a desk in another room that has cable anything like a magazine, a box of practice ammo they just bought and had not yet put away, or parts of a firearm they had been cleaning.

I guess they never leave their range bag open because they're going to the range later, so someone can see boxes of ammo, rows of mags, and various safety equipment and targets in it.

If they have a basement, I guess they don't have a reloading bench or steel ammocans where they can be seen from where the connection boxes are. Or even a gunsafe, anywhere, that can be seen.

Because I can just about guarantee you that if a handwringing blissninny sort with little education saw any of that, you'd be reported to the police as having an "arsenal" or "preparing to do something bad". :P

The Costco I go to is right near the Mass line, and there's a lot of Mass plates in the parking lot, they like to buy stuff here without sales tax. I have literally...and I mean literally...seen someone shudder and hurry past a displayed GUN SAFE in an aisle, as if it was going to suck them in and foist lots of evil guns on them or something. The very association seems to terrify them. They'd probably be paralyzed if they saw a real gun even behind glass.

Would you want someone like that going through your house, able to "report" things?
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2008, 07:56:19 PM »
i read a gun mag at the police station the other day  nothin happened

heres some reality
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA624472.html
'Bright Eyes’ Recruited in Tampa
By Linda Haugsted -- Multichannel News, 7/11/2005

Bright House Networks’ Tampa Bay division will work with local sheriffs’ offices to roll out a neighborhood-watch effort the division has dubbed “Operation Bright Eyes.”

In the first phase of the program, about 500 of the cable company’s technicians will receive crime-watch training.

Ultimately, 2,500 field employees will receive training from law-enforcement officials in seven local counties.

The goal is to train field employees to recognize suspicious behavior and to quickly report possible criminal activities to the appropriate authorities.

The initiative was announced just before the July 4 holiday by the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Child Protection Investigation Division in Largo, Fla.

The effort might be in response to a report that local citizens continue to be concerned about crime in their neighborhoods, even though statistics show crime is dropping in the Tampa Bay area.

“Operation Bright Eyes really gives us the chance to take a proactive role in public safety and address a true community concern,” division president Kevin Hyman said in a statement. “We’re not asking our people to be vigilantes or put themselves in harm’s way. We’re merely deploying 500 extra sets of eyes and ears to help keep our neighborhoods and residents safe.”

The workers will be provided with a comprehensive list of emergency numbers to call. The division anticipates that all appropriate workers will receive training and join the program by year-end.

There is a growing trend in public-affairs initiatives by cable operators.

In May, Comcast Corp.’s operation in Prince George’s and Montgomery Counties, Md., and Washington, D.C., agreed to become an active part of the regional Amber Alert network. That system, designed to quickly provide information about missing or abducted children, will transmit key details directly to the cell phones of the region’s 800 field service personnel, who will use that information to watch out for the child and/or abductor.

And even without a formal program, field technicians have responded positively to emergencies, proving their value as eyes and ears in local neighborhoods.

Comcast field techs Ryan Thornhill and Todd Hickam were credited with saving the life of a 10-year-old in June in Des Moines, Wash., after they heard a woman crying for help there. The technicians retrieved the boy and resuscitated him before paramedics arrived.

http://www.mybrighthouse.com/about_us/community_involvement/brighteyes.aspx

To enhance public safety in communities throughout Bright House Networks service areas, we launched a neighborhood watch initiative called Operation Bright Eyes. With help of local law enforcement agencies and Crime Stopper chapters, more than 900 of the company’s service technicians have been provided community-based training that empowers Bright House Networks service technicians to lend a helping hand to members of the community and also encourages them to take a proactive role in emergency situations including Amber Alerts.

Bright House Networks first launched Operation Bright Eyes in 2005 in Tampa, Florida. Service technicians have rescued young children who wandered away from their homes, helped hit-and-run victims, reported house fires and attempted residential break-ins and much more. The programs success in the Tampa Bay area prompted the expansion of the program in other communities the company serves including Indianapolis and Birmingham. We plan to launch the program in Bakersfield, Orlando, and Detroit in 2008

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Avon, Ind. -- Nearly 20 Bright House Networks service technicians recently received special training to be extra sets of eyes, ears and helping hands for police departments, emergency response agencies and local residents, allowing Bright House Networks to launch Operation Bright Eyes in Hendricks County.

Bright House Networks’ Operation Bright Eyes is a unique mobile crime watch and community service initiative. Training by local law enforcement personnel teaches Bright House Networks workers how to report potential crimes in progress, spot suspicious behavior, report an accident or lost child, provide help to injured or elderly residents and much more. Training also equips Bright House Networks workers to be key communicators in the event of a communitywide crisis or emergency.

Brownsburg Police Department staff led training at Bright House Networks’ Avon offices on June 20. Following the training, during which service technicians were taught to follow certain procedures given certain scenarios, workers were equipped with an extensive list of local emergency contacts before beginning their shifts.

“Our service technicians are in touch with our local dispatcher at all times and now they’re armed with a comprehensive list of local contacts, including police, fire, rescue and emergency management officials,” said Lou Zimmerman, area manager who oversees Bright House Networks’ operations in Hendricks, Hamilton and Boone counties. “One of our workers may witness an accident or come across an elderly homeowner who needs medical attention – thanks to their Operation Bright Eyes training, now our service technicians know the best practices and procedures to handle such situations and be more valuable assets to the Hendricks County communities they serve.”

Service technicians must undergo Operation Bright Eyes refresher training once a year. Participation in Bright House Networks’ new initiative is mandatory for all service technicians.

“The Operation Bright Eyes program enables all of our law enforcement agencies to utilize more resources to protect and aid local residents,” said Brownsburg Police Department Chief Steve Carroll. “I believe this program – and the concept that it is a mobile crime watch and community service initiative – will make an immediate and lasting difference in the safety and well-being of Hendricks County residents. It is a win-win for everyone.”

The first Indiana launch of Operation Bright Eyes occurred in March after Indianapolis Metro Police Department trained more than 130 service technicians who work in Indianapolis. Two weeks later, Operation Bright Eyes launched in Carmel after Carmel Police Department trained more than 25 local service technicians. Bright House Networks has plans to launch the program in Grant County in the near future.

Operation Bright Eyes originated in 2005 in Tampa, Fla. Since, the Bright House Networks initiative has grown into one of Florida’s largest public safety programs. Service technicians have rescued young children who wandered from their homes, helped hit-and-run victims, reported house fires and residential break-ins and much more.

Bright House Networks Indiana is one of central Indiana's leading digital video, high-speed Internet and digital phone service providers and has served the Indianapolis community for more than 24 years. Managed by Advance / Newhouse Communications, Bright House Networks is a privately held company. In Indiana, Bright House Networks has more than 450 Indiana employees and provides services to more than 120,000 customers in Indianapolis, Carmel, Zionsville, Avon, Pittsboro, Lizton, Fortville and Marion, Ind. For more, visit indiana.mybrighthouse.com.


has someone been snitched for having a gun mag?  in real life i mean  or is this all of the worldnet newsmax genre
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Re: Operation Bright Eyes - tattle tale utility workers spying on customers
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2008, 08:00:27 PM »
I briefly encountered the truckers' version of this.  The flavor I got, and get from this article, is "Condition white WILL NOT DO!  (Where have I heard that before?) Pay attention to your surroundings and, if you see something worth reporting, report it."  What I have heard of the so called training is that it amounts to a reminder of what bears reporting, most of it in the "Well, DUH!" category.

I do enjoy one name I have heard:  The Gladys Cravitz Brigade ('though I thoroughly dislike having gotten the reference!)
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2008, 08:04:33 PM »
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If they have a basement, I guess they don't have a reloading bench or steel ammocans where they can be seen from where the connection boxes are.

The satellite dish installers walked right past my reloading bench (press, other related tools, several pounds of powder, etc), but only managed to steal my FRS radios during the one time I left them alone for 5 minutes. :mad: 

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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2008, 08:12:57 PM »
what no black helicopters?  no one kicked your door down and shot the dog  stomped the cat?
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2008, 08:15:08 PM »
what no black helicopters?  no one kicked your door down and shot the dog  stomped the cat?

I think your house is due to be thoroughly inspected from top to bottom by min-wage employees who couldn't get a job better than "cable installer", who have trouble figuring out a door latch, who can't remember which is positive and which is negative, and who can't even get your account number right. They'll recieve minimal, substandard training, they'll report anything "suspicious" outside their very limited comprehension, and they might even take a few items of yours as a bonus.

They can report anything from any guns that could be "illegal" or even a "machine gun!!!" because they saw it in a movie and the bad guy had one like it and he killed cops, to some loose green tea that might be "pot".

Deal? What do you have to hide?

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2008, 08:18:58 PM »
I think imagineyour house is due to be thoroughly inspected from top to bottom by min-wage employees who couldn't a job better than "cable installer",


fixed it for ya
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2008, 08:36:00 PM »
Wait, so first off I don't like this situation because most likely I have something to hide
if this behavior somehow menaces you you have problems.  anytime anyone enters your house they get a look around.  hide the bong ammonium nitrate and anarchists cookbook. hide the grenades and kiddie porn too
and now it's because

1. I need a reality check
heres some reality


2. My tinfoil is too tight and I am concerned with black helicopters and JBTs?
what no black helicopters?  no one kicked your door down and shot the dog  stomped the cat?

You misunderstand me, and my concern with this.

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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2008, 08:44:33 PM »
maybe i do   what are you concerned about?
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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