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Faith in Hope and Change
« on: November 24, 2008, 04:35:38 AM »
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/23/hot-seat-obama-job-plan/

Seems the only folks who believe Nobama can produce 2.5 million jobs out of thin air are the ones living in D.C.  The rest of the country has no faith in Nobama, even after voting for him.

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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2008, 05:23:32 AM »
Of course DC people would believe it.  Government is a growth industry. 
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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2008, 07:08:05 AM »
dc 41% no 38 % yes
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2008, 07:21:10 AM »
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/23/hot-seat-obama-job-plan/

Seems the only folks who believe Nobama can produce 2.5 million jobs out of thin air are the ones living in D.C.  The rest of the country has no faith in Nobama, even after voting for him.



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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2008, 07:50:12 AM »
Once he's done giving everyone health-care, education, a home, food, and a car out of the pockets of those that actually earned it, what are people even going to need jobs for anyways?

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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2008, 08:42:28 AM »
Most people that I know that voted for him to put another party in the whitehouse, on teh basis of, "Doing the same thing and expecting differing results is insanity" explanation.

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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 04:42:24 PM »
Most people that I know that voted for him to put another party in the whitehouse, on teh basis of, "Doing the same thing and expecting differing results is insanity" explanation.

When the only two choices are, driving off of a cliff and backing up on the freeway, both choices are wrong.

Indeed. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil. 
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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2008, 04:50:33 PM »
When the only two choices are, driving off of a cliff and backing up on the freeway, both choices are wrong.

However, driving off a cliff places only you in jeopardy; backing up on the freeway places everyone else in jeopardy as well.

I see a handy analogy to the idea of government handouts; if you redistribute your own wealth until you are destitute, you starve.  If you elect a person to office who believes in redistribution of wealth, you give everyone the opportunity to starve.

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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2008, 04:53:15 PM »
Indeed. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil. 

And not choosing is allowing others to choose for you.   Pretending like there's some mystical third choice that is realistic and noble is an illusion.

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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 07:30:09 PM »
And not choosing is allowing others to choose for you.   Pretending like there's some mystical third choice that is realistic and noble is an illusion.

And as long as people BELIEVE crap like that, it WILL be true.  Talk about your self-fulfilling prophecies... :rolleyes:

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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 07:45:06 PM »
"if you chose not to decide you still have made a choice"
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2008, 07:46:15 PM »
And not choosing is allowing others to choose for you.   Pretending like there's some mystical third choice that is realistic and noble is an illusion.

Sorry, I will not adopt this defeatist attitude that TPTB would like me to adopt.  I will vote for candidates and ballot measures that most closely mirror my political/economic philosophies.  I urge anyone else to do the same.  
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Re: Faith in Hope and Change
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2008, 07:49:39 PM »
There are a lot of places that don't allow third parties on the ballot unless they meet certain requirements and also places that don't allow for write in votes either.  Oklahoma is one of them that restricts both, not sure of all of the particulars.  But I only had three choices for President this year; McCain, Obama, or not vote.
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