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Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« on: January 09, 2009, 09:53:21 AM »
Poaching? Really? That's the best she could come up with?

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/28/ED5D14VH27.DTL

Allowing loaded guns in national parks a reckless move

Dianne Feinstein

Monday, December 29, 2008

With its days numbered, the Bush administration has made an unnecessary and dangerous change to a 25-year-old regulation that bans concealed, loaded firearms in America's national parks and wildlife refuges.

This regulation, created by the Reagan administration, has done an outstanding job of making these special places among the safest in the nation. And it did so without imposing unreasonable restrictions on gun owners - it merely required that weapons be unloaded and kept in a place that's not readily accessible, such as a car trunk.

But this 11th-hour rule change - slipped in by a lame-duck administration late on a Friday with Congress out of session - will let people with concealed weapons permits bring loaded firearms into national parks and wildlife refuges.

This is an astonishingly reckless move, made in the absence of any public outcry in favor of changing this rule. In fact, the public consistently rates our national parks at the top of federal government programs that work well. There is no reason to fix a system that Americans overwhelmingly tell us is not broken.

Simply put, this is the Bush administration's parting gift to the gun lobby - at the expense of the health and safety of the public, park rangers and wildlife.

Here's why it's a bad move:

Allowing loaded and accessible weapons in our national parks will create a dangerous environment for the millions of Americans and tourists from around the world who visit our national parks every year. These park visitors expect a safe and enjoyable experience - not loaded guns and stray bullets.

Poaching will increase in our national parks, upsetting the delicate balance between park visitors and wildlife.

It will create a confusing patchwork of regulation that will be impossible to enforce. That's because some parks, like Death Valley National Park, cross state lines. California prohibits concealed weapons in its state parks. Nevada does not. Which state's law will apply at Death Valley?

The new regulation itself is vague and confusing because it permits state law on gun possession to determine whether guns are allowed in national parks. But many states - including California - generally allow the carrying of concealed weapons with a permit, but prohibit their possession in state parks. The new regulation isn't clear on which state law applies.

The regulation that the Bush administration repealed goes back more than 100 years in some national parks, including Yellowstone. It was applied across the board in 1983, and it's been critical in giving park visitors a real sense of safety.

This sense is supported by the facts. In fact, the odds of becoming a victim of violent crime in our national parks are 1 in more than 708,000, according to the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees.

That's less than the odds of being struck by lightning.

The people who know our parks best oppose this rule change. They include the retired Park Service employees group; the National Park Rangers Lodge of the Fraternal Order of Police; the National Parks Conservation Association; the Association of National Park Rangers; and the American Hunters and Shooters Association.

These great parks are national treasures, and they should be respected as such.

I agree with what the writer Wallace Stegner said in 1983: "National parks are the best idea we ever had. Absolutely American, absolutely democratic, they reflect us at our best rather than our worst."

If there is any good news, it is this: President-elect Barack Obama will take office on Jan. 20. I hope he moves quickly to reverse this monumentally reckless move by his predecessor.

Dianne Feinstein represents California in the U.S. Senate.
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 10:03:58 AM »
Poaching is the reason they banned guns in national parks, no?
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 10:06:16 AM »
Poaching? You mean people breaking the law by illegally hunting?

Like people who illegally carry guns for harm, thus breaking the law, still illegally carry guns for harm?

WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE SO MENTALLY BROKEN?

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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 10:13:54 AM »
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Poaching is the reason they banned guns in national parks, no?

Run into a lot of people that conceal carry a .30-.30 do you? Using "poaching" as an argument point for CCW is the same as saying "you don't need an 'assault rifle' to hunt ducks".
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 10:47:43 AM »
Yes, pardon me as I conceal my firearm entering the park, and then attempt to successfully conceal a poached carcass on exit... :rolleyes:
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 10:50:19 AM »
I am more concerned about running into an MS13 pot farm in the woods.

So are the park rangers.
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 11:15:01 AM »
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 10:16:39 PM »
Poaching? You mean people breaking the law by illegally hunting?


She doesn't actually believe this. It's just an excuse to ban guns.
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 11:34:21 PM »
She needs to go back and read up on Teddy Roosevelt, methinks.

Like all of them she doesn't get it and will never get it. 
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 11:38:23 PM »
Remember, she's a hoplophobe because she was ready to quit politics when 2 of her collegues (George Moscone and Harvey Milk) were gunned down, so she's got some understandable demons there.

I view her a lot like I do Carolyn McCarthy; someone needing some therapy, making understandably bad choices.
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2009, 12:37:04 AM »
Remember, she's a hoplophobe because she was ready to quit politics when 2 of her collegues (George Moscone and Harvey Milk) were gunned down, so she's got some understandable demons there.

I view her a lot like I do Carolyn McCarthy; someone needing some therapy, making understandably bad choices.

It is unacceptable to translate one's own mental issues into violation of the rights of other people. That applies to pedophiles, sadists, and legislators.

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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 01:56:00 AM »
Unfortunately, The Paranoid Class often morphs into The Tyrannical Class...without passing therapy.
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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 02:03:47 AM »
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Why are these people so allowed to maintain power? Why haven't they died off? Why are they gain a majority power?

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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 02:04:51 AM »
It is unacceptable to translate one's own mental issues into violation of the rights of other people. That applies to pedophiles, sadists, and legislators.

While I agree, I do think it explains her actions.  I don't think many people in this world are pure evil; but more like applied evil.  Fienstien is one of those.  She's not anti-freedom for freedom's sake; she's anti-freedom because she's scared witless and needs an analyst.

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Re: Feinstein Speaks on CCW in National Parks
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2009, 12:43:29 AM »
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She's not anti-freedom for freedom's sake; she's anti-freedom because she's scared witless and needs an analyst.
Yeah, well others have seen murder up close and personal and they don't feel compelled to squash other heretofore constitutional rights.  I don't doubt she carries baggage because of her unpleasantness, but she should keep her issues as her issues and not make them mine.
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