Author Topic: Employer crapping on my Lady (Read 6902 times)

Grandpa Shooter · « **on:** March 24, 2009, 01:15:02 PM »

My surgery has been scheduled with the specialist for this Friday at 7:30 am. They told me it could be an all day affair. My Lady went in to work today and said she needed the day off so she could be there. One of the co-directors said, "Why can't he go by himself." (160 miles one way) The other who's husband has cancer just got up and walked out.

She has more than 50 hours PTO on the books. WTF? This is a hospice facility. You know the kind, caring, compassionate place you turn to in times of medical need and sometimes end of life care. She may be unemployed soon.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:17:57 PM »

Hard to believe. She IS taking the day off, right?

280plus · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:26:30 PM »

I quit a joint once (or maybe I was fired, depends on who you talk to) because they wouldn't pay me the day I took off for my mother's funeral. I had been working there a couple years but was 6 weeks into a new owner so I was still on "probation" or whatever. The witch that took over says, "I have more important things to worry about than your mother's funeral."

No, I didn't smack her one, even though I should have.

vaskidmark · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:27:02 PM »

Family Medical Leave Act can be your friend. She can mention that she does NOT want to have to resort to it. (May want to get the docs to write out a note stating the need for a caretaker - things like pre-op meds taken at home [color=red](HINT!) [/color] and inadvisability to drive/operate mahinery for x days post-op.

Also check your state's disability discrimination and accommodation laws for "caretaker" issues. Again, the best route is to say one does NOT want to have to resort to using that process.

Are you old enough for Medicare? If so, they have a huge set of regulations regarding patient transportation and caretakers that can also be mentioned as NOT wanting to be resorted to.

The nice thing is that after you do a bit of basic research, you NEVER mention the exact section(s) you have found. Make HR do their own work or worry that you know something they do not know about.

I'm somewhat surprised a hospice outfit does not know how this can come back to bite them.

If she's under some sort of gun to become involuntarily unemployed, my suggestion changes and I say push the above issues. Makes for a great claim of termination based on discrimination.

Good luck resolving the matter.

stay safe.

skidmark

Uncle Bubba · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:31:44 PM »

Quote from: 280plus on March 24, 2009, 01:26:30 PM

I quit a joint once (or maybe I was fired, depends on who you talk to) because they wouldn't pay me the day I took off for my mother's funeral. I had been working there a couple years but was 6 weeks into a new owner so I was still on "probation" or whatever. The witch that took over says, "I have more important things to worry about than your mother's funeral."

No, I didn't smack her one, even though I should have.

You are a paragon of restraint. I don't know how you kept from decking her.

Uncle Bubba · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2009, 01:33:00 PM »

To Grandpa: What skidmark said.

And hopes that your surgery goes well.

Lee · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:19:07 PM »

Some people really do deserve a beating.
The company I work for is very family friendly...as long as it doesn't interrupt your work. And they have a website set up to help you deal with the stress they create in your life. I really regret not taking up plumbing or something. At least you could call a turd a turd.

Grandpa Shooter · « **Reply #7 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:38:49 PM »

The issues there have been building up for 5 months. The female employees didn't like the new Executive Director the holding company brought in the straighten out issues like this, so they cooked up a sexual harrassment claim against him and got him fired. The office manager/human resources person was pushed out for supporting him. My Lady also supported him and has been getting crapped on ever since. This is the last straw. I sent her a text saying to do whatever she needs to to resolve this issue.

My words were, "You need to decide which is more important to you, that job or our future together. The stress there is killing you, and if you are dead we have no future do we?" I added afterward, "As long as we stand together we will make it no matter what happens." Now the waiting starts.

Hey, what's one more on the pile?

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:42:08 PM »

what the heck, sounds like a hostile work environment to me based on a past sexual harrasment issue, file on 'em.

Phyphor · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2009, 02:46:16 PM »

Quote from: 280plus on March 24, 2009, 01:26:30 PM

I quit a joint once (or maybe I was fired, depends on who you talk to) because they wouldn't pay me the day I took off for my mother's funeral. I had been working there a couple years but was 6 weeks into a new owner so I was still on "probation" or whatever. The witch that took over says, "I have more important things to worry about than your mother's funeral."

No, I didn't smack her one, even though I should have.

You should have said "Well, you'da gone to your mother's funeral... but they generally just dispose of dogs with no ceremony... "

charby · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2009, 03:37:20 PM »

Quote from: 280plus on March 24, 2009, 01:26:30 PM

I quit a joint once (or maybe I was fired, depends on who you talk to) because they wouldn't pay me the day I took off for my mother's funeral. I had been working there a couple years but was 6 weeks into a new owner so I was still on "probation" or whatever. The witch that took over says, "I have more important things to worry about than your mother's funeral."

No, I didn't smack her one, even though I should have.

I'd be in prison if that happened to me.

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #11 on:** March 24, 2009, 03:39:30 PM »

Grab a copy of the Policies and Procedures manual. I bet there is something in there about medial issues with immediate family members. If there is you can nail them on it.

If they don't have a policy and prodedures manual, all that has to happen is that one person in management has to have taken off for an immediate family member's medical needs. That establishes precedent. And you can nail them on that.

Brad

Grandpa Shooter · « **Reply #12 on:** March 24, 2009, 03:54:52 PM »

Quote from: Brad Johnson on March 24, 2009, 03:39:30 PM

Grab a copy of the Policies and Procedures manual. I bet there is something in there about medial issues with immediate family members. If there is you can nail them on it.

If they don't have a policy and prodedures manual, all that has to happen is that one person in management has to have taken off for an immediate family member's medical needs. That establishes precedent. And you can nail them on that.

Brad

Policies and procedures are in place and yes one of the co-directors has taken time off because her husband has cancer and needs treatments. The receptionist's SO had a stroke and takes time off for that. This is small town Arizona where businesses regularly get away with crap and never pay the piper. My Lady bless her, is a strong woman who won't let stuff happen and just swallow her pride and stay silent. She has been reporting abuses to the holding company for months with no results. They are just goading her into quitting so they can get away with it.

Fixed it for GS- Charby

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #13 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:01:27 PM »

Hope she's documenting all the reports she's been making to the holding company. If they get too hinky and start doing stuff that's overtly malicious, you get into actionable territory.

Brad

cslinger · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:38:07 PM »

FMLA end of story. They really don't have a choice. You are trying to do the right thing by using your hard earned and legally binding vacation time, but if you have to use FMLA then so be it.

The HR folks will cringe if they heard this.

I had one of my folks need to take several weeks off and was trying to do so using her PTO time, which I immediately ok'd, family comes first and she had the time end of story in my book, we will make do until you return. My superiors on the other hand started to throw a hissy fit........I whispered those four little words gently in their ears.....F...M...L...A and suddenly she was a saint for wanting to use her PTO to take time to care for her family.

People are jerks and don't bother to see people as people anymore, they see only cogs or resources.....and this is coming from a guy who doesn't particularly like people.

Chris

280plus · « **Reply #15 on:** March 24, 2009, 04:47:51 PM »

A place where they cook up a scheme like that to get rid of someone they don't like is no place to be working. Maybe they have to pay her for her leftover vaca? or maybe she should take it all and then walk after she gets paid for it. Tell her don't let them get away with it! Make them ante up one way or another!

This is why, after the last crapfest I worked at, which was the crapfest after the crapfest with the bitch, eh, I mean witch, I vowed to work for myself forever more. Life is too short to be putting up with other people's BS.

Short after story. I was teaching HVAC at a tech school during the funeral incident. The next day, when the student body found out about it, they walked out and trashed the joint, cops came and everything. nyuk, nyuk...

Grandpa Shooter · « **Reply #16 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:09:03 PM »

I think by the end of the day I will have a happily unemployed Lady on my hands. She has been sticking with it because I am unemployed by virtue of VA Disability which is not enough to pay the bills. Even if we have to go live out on the remote property sooner than we planned, I would rather do that then see her come home every night looking like she has been run through a wringer backward after two times in the spin cycle.

I love her too much to just ask her to keep plugging at something where she gets dumped on for her professionalism and integrity. This too shall pass. I have been saying that for 39 years and so far it has always worked.

freedom lover · « **Reply #17 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:32:25 PM »

What are you getting surgery for GS?

Lee · « **Reply #18 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:52:48 PM »

If she does leave, she should request an exit interview and document her experiences. She might even bring up the lesbian sexual advances that occurred ha ha.

Waitone · « **Reply #19 on:** March 24, 2009, 05:59:56 PM »

Have Your Lady wander down to the friendly HR weenie and mumble a sentence sufficiently clear for said weenie to hear "hostile work environment" and "violation of terms of Family Medical Leave Act". The second sentence should contain terminology related to "seeking legal counsel". Unless the company's Grand Poobah's have a death wish, the issue should be resolved quickly.

Years ago before legal remedies were available I experience a similar situation. My mistake was not crawling into my boss' face immediately.

vaskidmark · « **Reply #20 on:** March 24, 2009, 07:00:11 PM »

Quote from: Grandpa Shooter on March 24, 2009, 05:09:03 PM

I think by the end of the day I will have a happily unemployed Lady on my hands. She has been sticking with it because I am unemployed by virtue of VA Disability which is not enough to pay the bills. Even if we have to go live out on the remote property sooner than we planned, I would rather do that then see her come home every night looking like she has been run through a wringer backward after two times in the spin cycle.

I love her too much to just ask her to keep plugging at something where she gets dumped on for her professionalism and integrity. This too shall pass. I have been saying that for 39 years and so far it has always worked.

PLEEEEEEZE don't let her do it!

Have her ask for FMLA time and get rejected, then quit uynder adverse termination conditions.

After the surgery you can find a lawyer (El T, are you admitted in AZ? Do you want to collect a referral split?) who will make sure the hospice remains non-profit for the rest of your kids' lives.

stay safe.

skidmark

MechAg94 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 24, 2009, 07:24:03 PM »

I sympathize. My mother is an LVN nurse and used to work in some of the nursing homes locally. She finally had to stop. She liked caring for the people but couldn't stand some of the low life staff they had and the indifference of the managers/owners.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #22 on:** March 24, 2009, 08:22:47 PM »

its sometimes a shock the types of organizations that behave poorly. i worked for a seminary and some of the stuff i saw made me flinch.

buzz_knox · « **Reply #23 on:** March 25, 2009, 10:09:25 AM »

It sounds like your wife is being retaliated against for participating in a sexual harrassment investigation. There are a variety of laws on point. They were designed to protect those bringing claims, but the protections often extend to both sides.

Grandpa Shooter · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2009, 11:40:25 AM »

What has been happening is that my Lady reports things that are happening at the local level to the regional manager to see if what is happening in her facility is consistent with what is supposedly being done to bring all the facilities in line with the over arching corporate guidelines.

She got called in yesterday and was reamed out for even communicating with corporate and told she had no right to be in contact and that she had to stop "going behind our backs" or get fired. This was after she and I had text messaged about the situation but before she had actually written her resignation. So she quit. Gave them two weeks notice, which is professional, but far more than they deserve.

The last thing they said was that all of the job descriptions were being changed and that the remaining employees who had not yet quit would have to apply and compete to keep their jobs. I spent too many years self employed to want to put up with stuff like that. Frankly I am glad she is out of there. It will be rough financially, but it will bring us closer together. She has been driving 112 miles a day round trip and is gone 12 hours a day. I only see her after work for awhile before she goes to bed and by the week end she is exhausted and cranky.

Arizona is not an employee friendly state. Rather than Caveat Emptor, it is Workers Beware.

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Author Topic: Employer crapping on my Lady (Read 6902 times)