Saw Quenton Tarentino's Kill Bill Vol 1

[roo_ster]

Not sure if I'm going to see Vol 2.

I thought Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction & True Romance were some wild (& violent), quirky, and showed some mad talent. 

KBv1 was just a mess.

I haven't seen it, but I can predict it: Uma Thurman's character takes another two hours to cut up the remaining people on her list.

[S. Williamson]

It's a LOT more story-driven.  I liked II a lot better than I.

Almost as if Tarentino said "She's got five people to kill.  Two of them can be done with in a hurry, but I want it to be violent.  Let's get all of that out of the way in the first one, then in the second we can take a minute or two to actually explain what's going on here."

It has a plot.  Characters, music, etc. are far better.

[K Frame]

I thought Kill Bill was an absolutely brilliant movie.

I think after Pulp Fiction it is easily the best thing Tarentino has done.

[Sergeant Bob]

I thought Kill Bill was an absolutely brilliant movie.

I think after Pulp Fiction it is easily the best thing Tarentino has done.

I wasn't that crazy about Kill Bill, although I was a bit preoccupied at the time I watched it. I love most of QT's other films (yes, even Grindhouse: Planet Terror and Deathproof) so maybe I'll give it another try.

[Tuco]

I saw KBv2 first, in the theater, and liked it much more than KBv1 on home video.  I saw v2 again on Video, and still felt it was superior.

The Lonely Grave of Paula Schultz is masterful a masterful scene, and ties in wonderfully with the Bride's warrior training in Japan.
v2 also has some character development around Budd (Michael Madsen), Bills brother; and the shows the Bride's "compassion" as she defeats Elle Driver (Daryl Hannah).

Volume 2 is less bloody and much more intellectual than v1.
Volume 2 is very bloody, violent and twisted, but more intellectual.

[Mabs2]

I thought the Kill Bill movies were terrible and retarded.
Pulp Fiction was extremely dumb and boring.

Never understood peoples' love for this guy's movies.

[zahc]

I loved pulp fiction. It's brilliant.

I see what he did there.

[Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas]

Never understood peoples' love for this guy's movies.

Weirdness has a quality all its own.

When you jumble up the scenes of your film by accident, you're a n00b film-maker. When you did it on purpose, you're an artiste. 

[seeker_two]

Never understood peoples' love for this guy's movies.

Same here....he seems to be trying to imitate Sam Peckinpah....but with more gore and less talent....

[S. Williamson]

Weirdness has a quality all its own.

When you jumble up the scenes of your film by accident, you're a n00b film-maker. When you did it on purpose, you're an artiste. 

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[Mabs2]

Weirdness has a quality all its own.

When you jumble up the scenes of your film by accident, you're a n00b film-maker. When you did it on purpose, you're an artiste. 

Never said they were weird, just bad.

[K Frame]

The staging, cinematography, and choreography, of the final fight between The Bride and Oren Ishisii is simply magnificent.

The bamboo fountain that provides counterpoint in several sections, almost a heart beat, just blew me away.

The music track backing it, almost a latin/Southwestern style, makes me think of some of the music in the Spaghetti westerns.

I'm really sorry that some people didn't like this movie.

[LadySmith]

I thoroughly enjoyed the Kill Bill movies. Blood, gore and revenge involving swordplay, guns, bare hands and anime. What more could you ask for? 

I found the hospital scene particularly disturbing. That's probably because I don't like hospitals and it played on that to a high degree.

I hope Tarantino makes a Vol. 3.

[Bigjake]

Ironic that we're discussing this thread just under the one poking fun at Carradine.

[longeyes]

Advanced craft and dazzling technology in the execution of the meretricious is still the meretricious.  Tarantino, who once had dark and devilish wit, has descended into crude Grand Guignol (too much coke?).  In that of course he is symptomatic of our times, the times when Grand Theft Auto can sell half a billion dollars of video mayhem in a week.

We can keep telling ourselves that we are not what we watch.  But we are.

[HankB]

Didn't think much of KBv1.

KBv2 was better, though some parts were so ridiculously over-the-top (such as when Uma Thurman, using her magic blade, cut through a whole company of Yakuza-types) they became laugh-out-loud comedic . . . I wonder if it was meant to lampoon the "invincible army of one" scenes from Commando?

And the part where The Bride was carrying her sword on a commercial airline flight?  That crossed the line into the absurd.

[Harold Tuttle]

[longeyes]

I'll take HERO over KILL BILL any day.

[Balog]

Watched Pulp Fiction, and made it maybe halfway through Resevoir Dogs. I can't stand Tarentino, although Inglorious Bastards is tempting me to try again.

[K Frame]

"And the part where The Bride was carrying her sword on a commercial airline flight?  shocked That crossed the line into the absurd."

Well, it wasn't meant to be a docudrama. I saw that as Tarentino's homage to the era of the samurai, where for a samurai to be without his swords was unthinkable. It was not only a badge of rank and authority, it was a quasi-religious symbol, much as the Crusader's sword was a symbol of the cross.

Let's face it, the Bride taking on something like 90 armed warriors at the same time and coming out a winner, then almost getting her clock cleaned by a teenage girl in a catholic school uniform? Pure literary symbolism. Although Gogo Yubari was very, very cute.

[jackdanson]

In that of course he is symptomatic of our times, the times when Grand Theft Auto can sell half a billion dollars of video mayhem in a week.

Grand Theft Auto 4 has a better plot and "acting" (voiceovers) than 95% of movies that have come out in the past 5 years.... just saying.

Kill Bill is alright, my wife loves it for some reason.  The second one is worth watching.

[longeyes]

I see Grand Theft Auto as a technical tour de force.

I think evaluating it on dramatic terms is a waste of energy.  That doesn't mean it can't provide entertainment.

[S. Williamson]

I'll take HERO over KILL BILL any day.

Even with my above post, I wholeheartedly agree.   

[Werewolf]

KB v1 and v2: What's not to like? 

Has there ever been a revenge movie made where the good guy/hero/anti-hero successfully wreaked revenge on their nemesis that wasn't a hoot to watch?

I can't think of one.

[Angel Eyes]

The staging, cinematography, and choreography, of the final fight between The Bride and Oren Ishisii is simply magnificent.

The music track backing it, almost a latin/Southwestern style, makes me think of some of the music in the Spaghetti westerns.

Some of that music is straight from Death Rides a Horse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff-kQ-UmflA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIROHAlmvGw

O'ren's backstory (witnesses her parents' murder, house burns down, plots revenge) follows the plot of this western fairly closely.