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FAA security hacks can quarantine you?
« on: October 08, 2009, 06:02:34 PM »
http://wcbstv.com/health/h1n1.airport.screening.2.1235962.html

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WASHINGTON (CBS) ―

With the holiday season just a few weeks away, health officials fear the swine flu will pick up right along with air travel.

New government guidelines are on their way, designed to help keep passengers healthy.

This flu season, airport staff across the nation won't just be screening for security threats. They'll also be looking out for health threats – people who look like they may have the H1N1 virus.

The government says that people traveling internationally may be screened for the H1N1 virus as they leave or enter the U.S.

"It feels a little bit overboard," Stanford, Conn. resident Derek Ferguson said.

The government warns that some passengers may be asked to pass through a screening device, have their temperatures taken, answer questions about their health, and even be quarantined if someone on the flight shows symptoms of H1N1.

"I'm all for it, I really am," Mount Vernon resident Rosa Raspaldo said. "Because – guaranteed – if people are coughing on the plane, all of those germs will be spread around."

But the H1N1 virus isn't just a danger in the skies. Buses and trains can also be a breeding ground for germs. Millions of riders climb aboard every day, and that has many taking precautions.

"I keep antiseptic in my purse and I use it all the time," said New York City resident Rose Donato.

Donato is a daily commuter, and says she isn't relying on others to take responsibility for her health.

"We're in Grand Central – I'm sure there are people that are sick and are walking around, and are spraying their germs all over the place," Donato said.

New York, along with other transportation agencies around the country, is posting signs reminding customers to keep their sneezes and coughs to themselves. It's common sense advice that doctors echo.

"Get vaccinated, wash your hands frequently, and you've really done the most that almost anybody can do to protect against influenza," Dr. Michael Phillips, of New York University's Langone Medical Center, said.

The first doses of swine flu vaccine arrived earlier this week, but new polls show that many people don't plan to get it. Flu shot or not, experts say that healthy habits will help make sure that, when you travel, germs don't take the trip with you.

If you have questions about the swine flu, check out our online resource guide here, including what you need for a swine flu survival kit. You can also check out information on screenings for travelers here.

I know two people in real life that have had H1N1 so far.

They are just fine.  It was just like any other flu. 

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New government guidelines are on their way, designed to help keep passengers healthy.

No... designed to control travel, is my opinion.

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The government warns that some passengers may be asked to pass through a screening device, have their temperatures taken, answer questions about their health, and even be quarantined if someone on the flight shows symptoms of H1N1.

Some FAA rentacop hack is qualified to distinguish between allergies, a common cold, regular old flu and H1N1 (which IS a regular old flu)?

Granted, they currently only talk about international flights... but the logic is startlingly bad.  Even for government.

This whole thing of "symptoms of H1N1" is so laughable.

From the CDC:

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/sick.htm

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How do I know if I have the flu?

You may have the flu if you have some or all of these symptoms:

    * fever *
    * cough
    * sore throat
    * runny or stuffy nose
    * body aches
    * headache
    * chills
    * fatigue
    * sometimes diarrhea and vomiting

Fever:  common among a billion illnesses.
Cough:  also common.
Sore throat:  Wow, it's like a broken record.
Runny nose:  There's so many allergens and irritants in airport circulation systems due to the varied traveler origins, it's a miracle everyone isn't experiencing runny noses.
Body aches:  You just got off a freakin' plane with a seat less than 18" across.  Of course your body aches.
Headache:  Cabin pressure changes cause headaches during takeoff and landing.
Chills:  Airports are always too cold.  Travelers also bounce between wildly different climates and their bodies react to that.
Fatigue:  Damn straight I'm tired.  I hate flying.
Diarrhea and vomiting:  Have you seen how long airport lobby food sits under heater lamps?

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Re: FAA security hacks can quarantine you?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2009, 08:22:51 PM »
I've dealt with FAA security and TSA....rentacop would be a compliment....
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Re: FAA security hacks can quarantine you?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2009, 08:25:46 PM »
Some FAA rentacop hack is qualified to distinguish between allergies, a common cold, regular old flu and H1N1 (which IS a regular old flu)?

Ummm ... sorry, but no. Swine Flu (H1N1) is NOT regular old flu. It is a totally different organism, which is why the vaccine for the "regular old flu" doesn't protect against it and they have developed a different vaccine for Swine Flu. Plus, the population segments most at risk for "regular old flu" seem to be least at risk for Swine Flu.
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Re: FAA security hacks can quarantine you?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2009, 09:01:32 PM »
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"It feels a little bit overboard," Stanford, Conn. resident Derek Ferguson said.

Yeah, but not to worry: those are just unusually large goldfish.
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Re: FAA security hacks can quarantine you?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2009, 10:29:33 PM »
Ummm ... sorry, but no. Swine Flu (H1N1) is NOT regular old flu. It is a totally different organism, which is why the vaccine for the "regular old flu" doesn't protect against it and they have developed a different vaccine for Swine Flu. Plus, the population segments most at risk for "regular old flu" seem to be least at risk for Swine Flu.

Oh, mercy me.

What's the symptoms, then?

Also, I will note for you that the "regular old flu" vaccine often doesn't work for the "regular old flu" because it turns out to be a different strain.
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Re: FAA security hacks can quarantine you?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2009, 10:49:36 PM »
Ummm ... sorry, but no. Swine Flu (H1N1) is NOT regular old flu. It is a totally different organism, which is why the vaccine for the "regular old flu" doesn't protect against it and they have developed a different vaccine for Swine Flu. Plus, the population segments most at risk for "regular old flu" seem to be least at risk for Swine Flu.

I think this is the most notable part of the H1N1 outbreak.

The people most at risk of death from it are the 20-30 year old's.

That matters.

Detecting H1N1 from symptoms?  Silliness, IMO.

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Re: FAA security hacks can quarantine you?
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2009, 11:37:40 PM »
Oh, mercy me.

What's the symptoms, then?

Also, I will note for you that the "regular old flu" vaccine often doesn't work for the "regular old flu" because it turns out to be a different strain.

This is very true but often misunderstood thing about the flu shots. It is the best guess at what strain it will be. It doesn't mean you won't get the flu if you get the shot.

And I like to see a mass transit check on has the cleanest air. Airplane, train or bus.

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