The Downward Spiral: Effect on Law Enforcement and other Risky Professions?

[AZRedhawk44]

Red Headed Stranger posted this in another thread and it made me think:

What will happen as less and less of our society is unable to "man up" and take care of themselves?  Right now we have some concerns about an arguable percentage of our law enforcement officers that abuse their station (like tasing 10 year olds for dubiously justifiable reasons). 

Makes me wonder if the "man up" variable was missing in that particular officer's life experiences, and instead some sort of LEO training instead caused him to fail back to a weapon to assert authority over a 10 year old.

As we get more and more people who resemble the limp twinkie on the cover of this fictional magazine, do we run out of potential candidates for high risk jobs like police, fire, EMT, military, rescue teams and other such jobs?

Does "effete-ism" create a need for tasers and such?  Is it a vicious cycle?  Rush might call it "the chick-ification of men."  Do you think it's happening, and do you worry about its effects on our society long-term?

[Gewehr98]

Do you think it's happening, and do you worry about its effects on our society long-term?

Not as much as others, it would appear. 

[French G.]

I'm sure it will be/is a problem. We get more civilized, we get weaker. Heck, I worry about myself, never having been in a fight in my adult life. My dad grew up in the city, fighting was a normal kid thing. Not me, my world was much more civilized so here I am less able to take care of myself. I'm sure though that by Josh Sugarmann standards I am a brute. Country boy can survive and all that. At least I live in a place where I can leave my rifle in an unlocked truck, so maybe I can get through life on what I do know.

I was thinking about this the other day in the context of our president. There is at best a compromised male role model situation in his youth and likely a guy who grew up never being the dominant male in his group, never really been hardened by life and now he has the power to start the biggest fights of all.

I said Sugarmann before, I get really ill at the men who sneer and whine about people more ready than themselves to do what is necessary to live in a world that is at best civilized veneer.

Maybe I need to join a MMA gym...

[MicroBalrog]

I don't see a problem.  Only in the bizarro world-view of leftists is 'civilization' opposed to being able to do mean things to your enemies when necessary.

[Jocassee]

I don't see a problem.  Only in the bizarro world-view of leftists is 'civilization' opposed to being able to do mean things to your enemies when necessary.

Quoteworthy!

I personally am not worried about any lack of manly men in our society. At least not in South Carolina where there is no shortage whatsoever.

[Gowen]

There was an article posted a few months back describing the effects of birth control pills on a woman's ideal man.  A less masculine Johnny Depp type were desired over a rugged John Wayne type.  This factor has caused men to emulate the wimpier side, just trying to get a date.  This is becoming ingrained in men.

Police in 50+ years won't be needed except to stop the occasional slap fight.

[AZRedhawk44]

There was an article posted a few months back describing the effects of birth control pills on a woman's ideal man.  A less masculine Johnny Depp type were desired over a rugged John Wayne type.  This factor has caused men to emulate the wimpier side, just trying to get a date.  This is becoming ingrained in men.

Police in 50+ years won't be needed except to stop the occasional slap fight.

This^^^ is what also went through my head as I was writing the OP.  Not just the effect of birth control on a woman's idealized man, but also the effect of birth control residual drug levels in city water supplies and the effect that has on men.

[41magsnub]

There was an article posted a few months back describing the effects of birth control pills on a woman's ideal man.  A less masculine Johnny Depp type were desired over a rugged John Wayne type.  This factor has caused men to emulate the wimpier side, just trying to get a date.  This is becoming ingrained in men.

Police in 50+ years won't be needed except to stop the occasional slap fight.

Two words..  Miranda and Reavers

[Jocassee]

Two words..  Miranda and Reavers

Automatic Serenity Reference Thread Win!

[Perd Hapley]

There was an article posted a few months back describing the effects of birth control pills on a woman's ideal man.  A less masculine Johnny Depp type were desired over a rugged John Wayne type.  This factor has caused men to emulate the wimpier side, just trying to get a date.  This is becoming ingrained in men.

This^^^ is what also went through my head as I was writing the OP.  Not just the effect of birth control on a woman's idealized man, but also the effect of birth control residual drug levels in city water supplies and the effect that has on men.

Really?  That all sounds pretty dubious, even to such a credulous buffoon as myself.  To start with, maybe the Johnny Depp fans are more likely to take birth control pills? 

I don't see a problem.  Only in the bizarro world-view of leftists is 'civilization' opposed to being able to do mean things to your enemies when necessary.

 

The problem would be the continued dominance of left-wing worldview. 

[BridgeRunner]

Amazingly, I can sum up my reaction to this thread in no words:
 
 


Oh, alright, I'll be slightly more effusive:  your balls are safe, really.  Any guy who thinks he's too masculine to get a woman might be confusing "masculine" with "jerk".

[Marnoot]

Really?  That all sounds pretty dubious, even to such a credulous buffoon as myself.  To start with, maybe the Johnny Depp fans are more likely to take birth control pills? 

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/sexual-health/birth-control/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100246210

[Declaration Day]

As we get more and more people who resemble the limp twinkie on the cover of this fictional magazine, do we run out of potential candidates for high risk jobs like police, fire, EMT, military, rescue teams and other such jobs?

Does "effete-ism" create a need for tasers and such?  Is it a vicious cycle?  Rush might call it "the chick-ification of men."  Do you think it's happening, and do you worry about its effects on our society long-term?

I read these passages of your post, and the movie "Demolition Man" came to mind.  It's an old Sylvester Stallone / Sandra Bullock sci-fi movie, if you're not familiar with it, and it illustrates the above quoted points perfectly.  See it if you haven't.

[Gewehr98]

All restaurants are Taco Bell. 

[Tallpine]

I guess that's why I like the older movies...

The so called male actors these days are mostly baby face types, compared to John Wayne, Robert Mitchum, Richard Boone, Steve McQueen, etc ....

[Balog]

Feminism stopped being about equality a long time ago. Probably shortly after, you know, achieving it's goals (legally if not culturally). Modern Western culture tends to hate on masculinity, or confuse a whole bunch of extraneous stuff as masculine.

[S. Williamson]

I wonder why that is... 

(seriously asking, here; not being sarcastic)

[crt360]

If you mean lack of 18 year olds willing to do physically risky jobs, I don't see it.  If you mean shortage of intelligent, charismatic, responsible leaders, maybe.

I'd worry more about long term effects of the overprescription of, abuse of, and addiction to happy and smart pills than what kind of guy birth control pills make a girl interested in.

All restaurants are Taco Bell. 

Who knows, maybe some day we will learn how to use the three sea shells. 

[grey54956]

The three seashells?  Scoop, scrape, and shine.

[Balog]

I wonder why that is... 

(seriously asking, here; not being sarcastic)

Which "that" are you referring to?

[S. Williamson]

Modern Western culture tends to hate on masculinity, or confuse a whole bunch of extraneous stuff as masculine.

That part confuses me.  I wonder what happened.

[Balog]

That part confuses me.  I wonder what happened.

Hating on men is a result of the radicalization of feminism. The extraneous stuff is just human's depraved nature breaking through, and has always been that way.

[Hawkmoon]

What will happen as less and less of our society is unable to "man up" and take care of themselves?  Right now we have some concerns about an arguable percentage of our law enforcement officers that abuse their station (like tasing 10 year olds for dubiously justifiable reasons).

Tazing 10-year olds is (if you'll pardon an unintended pun) child's play. Google Jason Anderson Orange CT crash

Here's a shortcut: http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/cop-crash-kills-2/2030682278

[BridgeRunner]

I wonder what happened.

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with men declaring feminism to be obsolete while blaming women for most of the world's problem, including bad cops, misbehaving children, absent fathers, and effete guys, could it?

No, no, of course not.  Never mind.  Carry on. 

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

It must suck to be a woman.