After Armageddon on History Channel

[brimic]

I watched Apocalypse Man. While I have a lot of respect for Marine Recon folks, what this guy demonstrated & told would get a lot of people killed and/ or injured. I blew holes in a lot of things he suggested that a person do.

The show reminded me of 'Man vs Wild'

[geronimotwo]

The show reminded me of 'Man vs Wild'

only in the filming style.   otherwise i have to say that i only agreed with about 30% of what he was doing.  i missd the first few minutes,  did he go into self protection at all?

made me more dangerous to anything i might percieve as a threat to them  or me since i need to take care of them

ditto for me.  it wasn't until i had kids that i thought about having a daily carry piece.

[Jamisjockey]

only in the filming style.   otherwise i have to say that i only agreed with about 30% of what he was doing.  i missd the first few minutes,  did he go into self protection at all?

ditto for me.  it wasn't until i had kids that i thought about having a daily carry piece.

I only agree with about 30% of what Bear Bryllis says, too....the man is a showman, and most of what he does would get the average person hurt or killed in a survival situation.

[brimic]

I only agree with about 30% of what Bear Bryllis says, too....the man is a showman, and most of what he does would get the average person hurt or killed in a survival situation.

Yep and yep.

[Sawdust]

Amazing how adding a wife/kids to the mix changes that perspective, innit?

True dat.

I wasn't "firearm aware" until I had my first child and the parental protector gene suddenly switched on.

That led me to THR in 2001, and the rest is history.

Sawdust

[Balog]

My best friend recently had a baby. She's never liked guns, but has considered learning to shoot and carrying since her daughter was born. Naturally I encourage this. 

[Tallpine]

I wonder how many survivalists know how to clean and cook a chicken?  Or bake a loaf of bread?

We kill, dress, and eat our extra roosters.

My wife has baked our bread since we were married.

[makattak]

I only agree with about 30% of what Bear Bryllis says, too....the man is a showman, and most of what he does would get the average person hurt or killed in a survival situation.

Quite. Fortunately, I have enough training that I can recognize the valuable statements and ignore his foolishness. (Jumping into a river and holding onto a log for bouyancy? No thanks.) I do learn about different vegetations and some similar important principles about different environments. 

I find Survivorman much more realistic. (I also note he goes hungry quite often.)

[Jamisjockey]

I do learn about different vegetations and some similar important principles about different environments. 

I find Survivorman much more realistic. (I also note he goes hungry quite often.)

That Bear tool takes major risks to escape the environment.  I loved watching him jump from boulder to boulder in Utah.  When you're in a survival situation, you're one broken leg away from a very painful and slow death.  Kind of hard to hike out if you can't walk.

You can go up to and over a month without food.  Water, not so much.  Les Stroud always puts a priority first on water, then somewhat on food.  And makes his escape plan carefully and sensibly (sp?).

[makattak]

That Bear tool takes major risks to escape the environment.  I loved watching him jump from boulder to boulder in Utah.  When you're in a survival situation, you're one broken leg away from a very painful and slow death.  Kind of hard to hike out if you can't walk.

You can go up to and over a month without food.  Water, not so much.  Les Stroud always puts a priority first on water, then somewhat on food.  And makes his escape plan carefully and sensibly (sp?).

Yeah, I remember watching him climb up a rock cliff and my thoughts were much the same. Les Stroud is far less "extreme" and, as a result, far more real.

I particularly liked the episode where Les tried to simulate a plane wreck and leave one arm tied as though it had been broken. He gave up that broken arm after a day, as I recall.

[CNYCacher]

You can go up to and over a month without food.  Water, not so much.  Les Stroud always puts a priority first on water, then somewhat on food.  And makes his escape plan carefully and sensibly (sp?).

Yours truly.  12 days of not much more than gatorade and chicken broth.  And this was lying in bed, not hiking around.

Feb 14, 2004:


Feb 26, 2004:


In case you are wondering

[Northwoods]

Yours truly.  12 days of not much more than gatorade and chicken broth.  And this was lying in bed, not hiking around.

Feb 14, 2004:


Feb 26, 2004:


In case you are wondering

I had a similar end result following a bout with Mono at the end of my junior year of high school.  I dropped to 135# (and I was 6').  Took over a year to get back to 160#.  'Course nowadays I'm trying get back down to 175#. 

[Jamisjockey]

DVR'd the episode where he's in the west texas desert.  Yeah.  Hiking along pointed at some landmark.  Landscape dips and he loses sight of the landmark.  So he advises to use your shadow angle as a directional guide.  Yeah...sure....how about you pick a short-range landmark instead, there, Bear (until you can see the long range one again)?? 

[S. Williamson]

My plan if I survive the initial "event" (which if I don't, I'm ready for that as well) is to find Rev and offer my services as medic/ mechanic/ not-stupid-guy-that's-a-decent-shot. 

[MillCreek]

I watched the 'Apocalypse Man' episode last night.  At age 50, there is no way in heck I am going to be bounding up walls like that guy can.  I liked the idea of using a floor pump as a giant syringe to extract fuel from underground tanks. 

I have often thought that a pretty good post-Apocalypse vehicle will be a full-suspension mountain bike.  It can carry some decent loads, is low-profile, can go almost anywhere and maintenance will be simple. 

[Jamisjockey]

I watched the 'Apocalypse Man' episode last night.  At age 50, there is no way in heck I am going to be bounding up walls like that guy can.  I liked the idea of using a floor pump as a giant syringe to extract fuel from underground tanks. 

I have often thought that a pretty good post-Apocalypse vehicle will be a full-suspension mountain bike.  It can carry some decent loads, is low-profile, can go almost anywhere and maintenance will be simple. 

I'd go with a rigid framed bike, as they are lighter and easier to carry, with less moving parts to maintain/break.

[MillCreek]

I'd go with a rigid framed bike, as they are lighter and easier to carry, with less moving parts to maintain/break.

True, except that my thought was that the suspension may come in handy when moving a loaded-down bike over rough terrain.  I wonder if a hardtail would be a good compromise.

[sanglant]

there high as all get out, but the bombadil is the bike(frame) i have been looking at for awhile now(will probably never get one though)

[MillCreek]

After the Apocalypse, I suspect that Rivendell and Surly frames will survive, much like the cockroach.  Out of curiosity, how long would a contemporary bicycle tire survive before the rubber rots or becomes otherwise unusable?  Say that the tire is indoors, and thus protected from the UV and heat of sunlight. 

[sanglant]

much longer than you think just remember to wash it off before riding

[Jamisjockey]

True, except that my thought was that the suspension may come in handy when moving a loaded-down bike over rough terrain.  I wonder if a hardtail would be a good compromise.

For ease of maintenence and repair, I'd still go the straight fork route.  With braze ons for the front racks.
There are certainly hundreds of millions of bicycles in circulation, though, which would mean that you could fix just about anything with the right scavenged parts.

Out of curiosity, how long would a contemporary bicycle tire survive before the rubber rots or becomes otherwise unusable?  Say that the tire is indoors, and thus protected from the UV and heat of sunlight. 

Several years I'd imagine.  Thats one thing to consider having saved away somewhere, some spare tires.....but you can't leave them out in high/low temperatures, though....

This is my kind of thread veer....

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

True, except that my thought was that the suspension may come in handy when moving a loaded-down bike over rough terrain.  I wonder if a hardtail would be a good compromise.

Suspension wouldn't work right when loaded down.  It'd be the cycling equivalent of Brad's new truck.

I'm with Jamis on the solid bike.  Better hauling capacity, simpler, lighter to carry when needed, etc.  

One o' them thar Xtracycle thingies might be just about perfect.

[MillCreek]

Ooh, try this on for size: http://www.dutchbikeseattle.com/_product_77092/WorkCycles_Fr8_Kruisframe



Then there is the box bike: http://www.dutchbikeseattle.com/_product_77092/Bakfiets_Cargobike_2008

[sanglant]

since there are no cars on the roads(if there are roads ) i'm going recumbent 

http://bicycletouringpro.com/blog/why-would-anyone-want-to-ride-a-recumbent-bike/

http://www.getitbent.com/

little harder to mount racks though

[Northwoods]

I've got a rack on the back of my Vision R-40.  Holds a pair of paniers just fine.  I can fit a bike lock, full change of winter office clothes, lunch and a liter thermos of tea in a standard pair.  Would be easy as any other bike to stack more on the back of it.

Now I just need a job to ride that bike to.