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Why thank you harry reid
« on: April 05, 2010, 03:13:52 PM »
What I received in the mail today just made my blood boil!!!! :mad: :mad:

The National Shooting Sports Foundation just sent me a mailing telling me how much I need to thank harry reid for creating the world largest state-of-the-art range facility.  NSSF is urging me to support harry reid.  I promptly wrote them and told them that I will not support NSSF or the NRA for that matter as long as they continue to back harry reid.  I explained in civil terms how reid will walk lock step with whatever legislation that obama pushes.  When the gun ban is proposed, harry reid will lead the charge.  If they doubt me, they only need to look at the health care debacle.  Harry reid is no friend of gun owners.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2010, 04:02:04 AM »
So the fact that Harry Reid has bucked his party leadership on the gun issue for what, over a decade, was all just a ruse?  ;/

Pull back from your emotions and use a little reason.  Whether or not you agree with his other actions Harry Reid has always been a stalwart friend of gun owners and many of our gains over the years, including park carry most recently, would not have happened without him being in positions of seniority in the Democratic party.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 11:48:28 AM »
Harry gets high marks from the NRA, for what thats worth.
I can't find any anti gun votes by HR in the past several years.

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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 05:11:51 PM »
Harry Reid can pound sand. The OP is correct. Reid will march lockstep with the democrat agenda.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 06:55:47 PM »
Carebear is right in one sense: on guns, the Flaming Dingleberry is right. But far greater issues are plaguing our nation right now, and that piece of day-old pus deserves the enmity of every Americam.

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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2010, 09:27:16 PM »
Isn't NSSF that org that parades itself as a gun rights group while pushing for more regulation?

NRA backed Reid?????
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2010, 09:28:45 PM »
Carebear is right in one sense: on guns, the Flaming Dingleberry is right. But far greater issues are plaguing our nation right now, and that piece of day-old pus deserves the enmity of every Americam.

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Dingle is just another Leftist Extremist Parasite, who just happens to like guns.
Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2010, 11:12:47 PM »
Isn't NSSF that org that parades itself as a gun rights group while pushing for more regulation?

No, you're thinking of Americans for Gun Safety
The NSSF are good guys.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 12:38:25 AM »
No, you're thinking of Americans for Gun Safety
The NSSF are good guys.

OK, thanks. However, if they gave Dingy Harry a good grade I'm kinda wondering about their good guy (wasn't that "Chucky" doll a "Good Guy") rating though. =|
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 01:44:58 AM »
ahsa i think were the brady shills ??? man my memory sucks, but it was something like that [popcorn]

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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 01:49:37 AM »
That's them, sanglant.  Those are the folks I was thinking of.  Hey, Sgt. Bob, I was wrong.  (I know, it seems an impossibility.)  Look at sanglant's post.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2010, 12:07:52 AM »
Wow, I thought this thread was dead and buried.

First off, NSSF sends out a mailer suggesting that Nevada residents call, write or email Harry Reid for making it possible for the shooting park to open.  Interestingly, I live in Northern Nevada, about 7 hours away from the park in Southern Nevada.  The park and mailing is useless to me.  The mailers went state wide and their implication is that we need to support Harry Reid because he does good things for Nevada shooters.  Where I live is awash with anti Harry Reid bumper stickers.  Harry Reid cannot win without Northern Nevada, democrat held Las Vegas will hold for him, but it's not enough if the rest of the state goes against him.  Harry is very worried about this election and low and behold we get a mailing from the NSSF urging us to thank Reid.


NRA backed Reid?????

Last year I received a mailing from the NRA urging us to support and thank Reid for the good things he does for shooters.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2010, 12:25:45 PM »
That's them, sanglant.  Those are the folks I was thinking of.  Hey, Sgt. Bob, I was wrong.  (I know, it seems an impossibility.)  Look at sanglant's post.

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Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2010, 09:41:02 PM »
All I can say is that the NRA is and has to be a single issue organization.  If they start taking on other issues or getting in bed with another political movement, they just sabotage themselves.  The political director for the Texas State Rifle Association said that exact thing in their newsletter recently.  While she appreciated the emails and such about other issues, they simply have to focus on gun issues.


On another point, all of you who talked about Pro-Gun Democrats, did you really think they were all conservative or libertarian or something?  
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2010, 01:33:18 AM »
On another point, all of you who talked about Pro-Gun Democrats, did you really think they were all conservative or libertarian or something?  
 ;) =D

Yeah, I keep hearing how good a friend Dingle is to gun owners, blah, blah. He's not a friend to much of anyone when he supports a party whose leaders stated goals are the destruction of America as we know it.

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Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2010, 02:48:30 PM »
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All I can say is that the NRA is and has to be a single issue organization.  If they start taking on other issues or getting in bed with another political movement, they just sabotage themselves.

Well, it would be nice if they were consistent about that...  =|
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2010, 04:26:18 PM »
Well, it would be nice if they were consistent about that...  =|

What other issues or movements do they get involved in?
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2010, 05:17:27 PM »
Yeah, I keep hearing how good a friend Dingle is to gun owners, blah, blah. He's not a friend to much of anyone when he supports a party whose leaders stated goals are the destruction of America as we know it.

"I'm your friend.......[stab], I like guns...[stab]  [barf]

Where have the Democrats stated that they want to destroy America?  I can't find it anywhere.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2010, 06:42:23 PM »
What other issues or movements do they get involved in?

Well, when you read the write-ups about their annual meeting, one gets the impression that if you are pagan and anti-war, you might not be welcome  =|
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2010, 07:42:14 PM »
Well, when you read the write-ups about their annual meeting, one gets the impression that if you are pagan and anti-war, you might not be welcome  =|

Okay, that may be a valid impression and if so should be corrected.  The NRA for good or ill has more cultural conservatives than libertarian or otherwise liberal types.  Only fix for that though is for more of the latter types to get involved.

However, that's their annual meeting, one week of meet and greet.  What exactly in their public actions or stated/written policies involves anything other than gun rights related issues?

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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2010, 10:57:39 PM »
Well, when you read the write-ups about their annual meeting, one gets the impression that if you are pagan and anti-war, you might not be welcome  =|


I honestly never thought I'd be saying this to you, but maybe you just need a thicker skin.  For one thing, I kinda doubt anyone at an NRA meeting will be asking you to confirm your support for non-gunnish political positions, or making you pray the rosary with them.  I've been to a couple of their annual meets, and I didn't get the impression that it was a prayer meeting or a pro-war rally. 

That being said, I don't know what you've heard, and my attendance at the meetings was pretty much limited to the trade show aspect of it (the manufacturers' exhibit hall, or whatever they call it).

My fellow Christian conservative types have the same complaint about a lot of organizations, one in particular is the university.  I think they need to get a thicker skin and not be so worried that the profs are all politically backward.

In both cases, I think you'll find you're not the only oddball in the bunch.  =)
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2010, 11:17:36 AM »
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I honestly never thought I'd be saying this to you, but maybe you just need a thicker skin. 

It's not about me at all.  ;/

I'm just wondering about all the folks who might become NRA members if the "culture" didn't seem so hostile.  =|
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2010, 11:21:37 AM »
It's not about me at all.  ;/

I'm just wondering about all the folks who might become NRA members if the "culture" didn't seem so hostile.  =|

It's hard to change a "culture" that is determined by the members. Especially if you refuse to become a member.
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2010, 12:00:39 PM »
It's hard to change a "culture" that is determined by the members. Especially if you refuse to become a member.

I've been an NRA member continuously for about a dozen years now (off and on before that).
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Re: Why thank you harry reid
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2010, 04:39:59 PM »
I wonder still if the problem is more of perception than reality.

Can you judge the "culture" of the NRA by the folks whose signs get published?  That they open with an invocation which has been deriguer in this country since, oh, the founding? 

By that note the media is right on to label the Tea Party morons if not actually evil, yet that first impression based on a limited selection of evidence is palpably not the case.
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