Alien Swarm: You jerks would like this.

[Mabs2]

http://www.alienswarm.com/index.html
http://store.steampowered.com/app/630/
Top down 4 player co-op against billions of aliens using the Source engine.
I've only played offline practice so far but my only gripe is when you reload you "discard the bullets in your clip."
Weapons designs are kind of silly but you can't see them in-game very well.
Other than that, seems like it could be good fun.


Also, it's 100% free.

[Mabs2]

Fine.
I'll just play by myself.
Sure is fun by myself.


Jerks.

[myrockfight]

Fine.
I'll just play by with myself.

Jerks.

Fixed that fer ya. 

































I keed. I keed. I'm checking it out as we speak. Isn't "discarding the 'bullets in your clip'" more realistic?

[Mabs2]

Why would you discard a half full magazine?

[myrockfight]

Well I wouldn't. But I ain't no high-speed, low-drag, unlimited resource, kinda shooter.

I'm more like a, "Hey. Do you mind if I pick up your brass to reload with. It'll keep you from having to sweep it up and me from having to buy brass."  or more like 

[Mabs2]

Well, that's the problem.
These guys aren't unlimited resource.  I think you get 5 magazines with your rifles.
I've played online a few times and we ran out of ammo towards the end pretty badly.

[Firethorn]

I think it's to counter the 'fight one opponent, reload the magazine that's only down 3 rounds' type.

[Ned Hamford]

I think it's to counter the 'fight one opponent, reload the magazine that's only down 3 rounds' type.

Ahh yes, the dreaded 'having fun' situation.   

[41magsnub]

I liked the way operation flashpoint did it.  You had X magazines total at the start of the mission and ammo in each is tracked individually.  If you hit reload it swaps the current magazine for the next that has the most rounds in it putting the current magazine back in inventory (unless it is empty and then you drop it).

[Mabs2]

I liked the way operation flashpoint did it.  You had X magazines total at the start of the mission and ammo in each is tracked individually.  If you hit reload it swaps the current magazine for the next that has the most rounds in it putting the current magazine back in inventory (unless it is empty and then you drop it).

SWAT 4 did that too and it was great.
Wish Swarm did something similar.  Discarding partial mags is silly.  I can see throwing one away that's only got like four rounds (especially since they all hold about 80 or so).

[AZRedhawk44]

It'd be neat if a remove/discard/reload took less time than a remove/retain/reload operation, and you could choose between the two.

And if empty magazines were somehow a desirable asset.  You could shuffle ammo from two half-empty mags into one full one, or ammo was found only in raw cartridge format and stuffing mags required a deliberate keystroke and a progress bar.  Discarded mags get destroyed, but you could find new magazines once in a while.

[Mabs2]

It'd be neat if a remove/discard/reload took less time than a remove/retain/reload operation, and you could choose between the two.

And if empty magazines were somehow a desirable asset.  You could shuffle ammo from two half-empty mags into one full one, or ammo was found only in raw cartridge format and stuffing mags required a deliberate keystroke and a progress bar.  Discarded mags get destroyed, but you could find new magazines once in a while.

Indeed.
It'd be easy to use, press reload and you reload normally, tap reload a bunch and you reload very quickly without retention.
But if you post this stuff on game forums as a suggestion you get flamed quick.