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Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« on: September 26, 2010, 03:15:34 PM »
http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/2010/09/antidrinking_ac.html

A lengthy blog posting detailing the totalitarian prohibitionist sink hole MADD has become.

Lots of "You've got to be s*****g me" moments.

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/106779/

Gives an account of pshyco LEOs surrounding a house with a high school party going on inside.  They are so nutso to find and nail underage drinkers that they have more cops on scene than party-goers, and threaten parents who want to take their kids home with arrest and prosecution.  The nutcase LEOs make every single party-goer in the house do a breath test, no choice in the matter.  They hand out underage drinking violations when one (o-n-e, "1", as in singular, uno) one of the 20 party goers is found with alcohol in thier system (blew a .02).

"I asked a local prosecutor afterwards if this were normal practice, and she said it was. The prosecutor also told me that is why so many parents end up bitterly fighting these charges — they are just enraged that the police show up with enough firepower to defend the Green Zone because it is possible some 16 year old had a beer, and then act as if they are breaking up the Capone gang. The courthouse crowd knows this so they usually make a deal where the kid goes to an Alcohol Awareness class and the charge gets expunged, to avoid letting the police actions see the light of day."

Frankly, that sort of deal is worthy of getting a local vigilante/milita group together and showing the needle-dicked thugs who they work for.  Trash with a badge ought to get kicked to the curb and tossed in the incinerator.
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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2010, 04:10:50 PM »
not that i question the veracity of an internet post but glen got a town where it happened?
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2010, 05:07:31 PM »
Quelle Surprise.
MADD has always been an overzealous prohibitionist group.

.02?  Isn't that like a bananas foster and some non-alcoholic beer?
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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2010, 05:24:43 PM »
some folks could tetotal and blow that
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2010, 08:25:31 PM »
. . . The nutcase LEOs make every single party-goer in the house do a breath test, no choice in the matter . . .
I call BS on this. I've heard of similar things happening and gullible kids being browbeaten into doing so, but "in my day" nobody except the driver of a vehicle that had been stopped would have taken the Breathalyzer. I happen to know of a couple of instances where the non-driving kids said "no" to LEOs (once as passengers in a car, another time as party goers) and made it stick.
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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2010, 09:48:26 PM »
not that i question the veracity of an internet post but glen got a town where it happened?
I've heard something similar before, but I can't recall where.
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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2010, 11:21:30 PM »
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Frankly, that sort of deal is worthy of getting a local vigilante/milita group together and showing the needle-dicked thugs who they work for.  Trash with a badge ought to get kicked to the curb and tossed in the incinerator.

QFT.  +1.  And all similar sentiment.
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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 12:41:21 AM »
wasn't there a case a few years back when the cops stormed a school to teach the kids a lesson?

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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 12:50:29 AM »
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Frankly, that sort of deal is worthy of getting a local vigilante/milita group together and showing the needle-dicked thugs who they work for.  Trash with a badge ought to get kicked to the curb and tossed in the incinerator.

So, just to be clear, you are proposing killing police officers for enforcing state and local alcohol laws?

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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 03:52:24 AM »
So let me get this straight.

You support outright violence over alcohol enforcement, and that's A-OK.

But when I support peaceful political revolution you tell me that I am being a utopian?

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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 08:27:56 AM »
I don't think he ever mentioned killing any one. I'd imagine more of a tar-and-feather or a ride the wooden horse type moments.  =D
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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 09:11:39 AM »
I call BS on this. I've heard of similar things happening and gullible kids being browbeaten into doing so, but "in my day" nobody except the driver of a vehicle that had been stopped would have taken the Breathalyzer. I happen to know of a couple of instances where the non-driving kids said "no" to LEOs (once as passengers in a car, another time as party goers) and made it stick.

Huh?  That's pretty standard around here for vehicles.  You CAN refuse the Breathalyzer.  But they will drag you to the hospital to sunk blood out of you, or they just automatically revoke your license (AFAIK, only if you were the active driver, but that may not be true anymore). 

For the house thing, problem is these kids probably didn't know to have ONE person walk outside, have the door locked after him, say "Good evening, may I see your warrant?" and then STFU.  Really, they should be teaching that kind of thing in Civics class.  Probably in middle school.  Or hell, elementary school.  Consider I've heard of more than one outlaw lemonade stand getting shut down.  The ACLU printed up rather nifty wallet cards, back in college we used to pass them out to everyone.  Some of the more cool cops bugged us for copies whenever they lost their copy.



So let me get this straight.

You support outright violence over alcohol enforcement, and that's A-OK.

But when I support peaceful political revolution you tell me that I am being a utopian?

You know what the police should, justifiably, call peaceful political revolutionaries?   Target practice.  Because that's really the only thing they are, most of the time.  A live action target to test (usually) less lethal weapons on. 

I will grant, minor and narrow scoped political reforms are entirely possible through peaceful political protesting.   The more successful approach is bribery, which RKBA has proven.  Hundreds of millions (billions?) in bribes to politicians and PR just to get a couple concessions. 
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Re: Anti-drinking activists drunk with power
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 09:31:50 AM »
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Trash with a badge ought to get kicked to the curb and tossed in the incinerator.


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