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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2010, 01:55:49 PM »
I still don't get why folks are so scared/concerned about coyotes? I bird hunt in coyote central Iowa and had never had an encounter with any of my dogs and I've only seen one 'yote out bird hunting and he was hauling ass 300 yards away in from of lab.
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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2010, 02:10:20 PM »
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I still don't get why folks are so scared/concerned about coyotes?

You don't have chickens and cats, apparently.
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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #52 on: November 22, 2010, 02:11:18 PM »
I killed two last week while. The wife saw another coyote feeding on the remains the next day.

Interesting...  =|

Well, I guess one can use a coyote for coyote bait then.  ;)
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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #53 on: November 22, 2010, 02:28:10 PM »
I still don't get why folks are so scared/concerned about coyotes? I bird hunt in coyote central Iowa and had never had an encounter with any of my dogs and I've only seen one 'yote out bird hunting and he was hauling ass 300 yards away in from of lab.

Because there are suburban coyotes that are habituated to dogs and humans. They have the potential for very different cost/benefit ratios in terms of what they do.

A rural coyote that does not stalk livestock may simply see humans and domestic dogs as "not-food", and "threat", and there's zero point in engaging them. A suburban or fringe-rural coyote that's snacked on a small dog, a few cats, gone through garbage, or finds food in proximity to human activity, noises/scents may be very different.
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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #54 on: November 22, 2010, 02:33:55 PM »
You don't have chickens and cats, apparently.

I know that yotes are opportunity eaters, cats and chickens make for a easy meal.

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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #55 on: November 22, 2010, 03:42:03 PM »
I know that yotes are opportunity eaters, cats and chickens make for a easy meal.



So do small to medium dogs, as well as larger ones who have been conditioned not to be aggressive.  There are rumors of 'yotes looking at small children but fortunately nothing to substantiate the rumors.

And semi-urban/urban beasts of all strupes are potential carriers of rabies - either from direct contact with a rabid beast or from chowing down on the remains of one that died from rabies.

That and they are the closest we have nowadays to wolves lurking just beyond the reach of the campfire flames.

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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #56 on: November 22, 2010, 03:56:15 PM »
I know that yotes are opportunity eaters, cats and chickens make for a easy meal.



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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #57 on: November 22, 2010, 03:57:18 PM »
So do small to medium dogs, as well as larger ones who have been conditioned not to be aggressive.  There are rumors of 'yotes looking at small children but fortunately nothing to substantiate the rumors.

And semi-urban/urban beasts of all strupes are potential carriers of rabies - either from direct contact with a rabid beast or from chowing down on the remains of one that died from rabies.

That and they are the closest we have nowadays to wolves lurking just beyond the reach of the campfire flames.

stay safe.

We have the wolves here, too  :O
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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #58 on: November 22, 2010, 03:57:34 PM »
So do small to medium dogs, as well as larger ones who have been conditioned not to be aggressive.  There are rumors of 'yotes looking at small children but fortunately nothing to substantiate the rumors.

And semi-urban/urban beasts of all strupes are potential carriers of rabies - either from direct contact with a rabid beast or from chowing down on the remains of one that died from rabies.

That and they are the closest we have nowadays to wolves lurking just beyond the reach of the campfire flames.

stay safe.


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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2010, 04:02:09 PM »
Because there are suburban coyotes that are habituated to dogs and humans. They have the potential for very different cost/benefit ratios in terms of what they do.

A rural coyote that does not stalk livestock may simply see humans and domestic dogs as "not-food", and "threat", and there's zero point in engaging them. A suburban or fringe-rural coyote that's snacked on a small dog, a few cats, gone through garbage, or finds food in proximity to human activity, noises/scents may be very different.

^^ This, plus eleventyone.

Also, coyote in different parts of the country have different degrees of hunger/aggression.

Desert 'yotes are more likely to tackle larger game than 'yotes from wetter parts of the country, where small game is plentiful.

Coyote varminting has a distinct effect on white-tail populations in AZ.  The more 'yotes you bag, the more deer there will be the following year.  That tells me that coyote quite routinely prey on deer, here.  That conditions them to prey on other ~100 pound animals.
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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2010, 08:40:11 PM »
^^ This, plus eleventyone.

Coyote varminting has a distinct effect on white-tail populations in AZ.  The more 'yotes you bag, the more deer there will be the following year.  That tells me that coyote quite routinely prey on deer, here.  That conditions them to prey on other ~100 pound animals.

Yup. When a co-worker and I took the boss pig hunting earlier this year, the guide kept getting mad at me and my co-worker for not taking shots whenever we saw a coyote. They take down deer and smaller pigs on the ranch he guides.
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Re: Anyone know about coyotes?
« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2010, 10:23:59 PM »
You really don't want to see what a pack of 'yotes can do to a calving heifer. It isn't pretty. Most ranchers I know have calving barns but there are still some who birth calves in the fields.

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