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Re: Rush Limbaugh today
« Reply #75 on: May 06, 2011, 11:54:45 PM »
I have to say that I like him even less after running across this bio.  He certainly throws some stones from that glass house of his.
http://www.nndb.com/people/428/000022362/

Why don't you do some research on all the mud thrown in that article? I think it will become clear who is distorting facts.



horrific case. i had missed the part about her lawyers kid when it first came out.
here we have a pwt family with minimal resources win in court in kentucky. and fairly quickly as court cases go.  it only reinforces the notion the rush with unlimited legal resources got a most generous agreement vis a vis his 30 k pills

So now it's Rush's fault that lawyers charge a fee? I must resign my position as forum scapegoat.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh today
« Reply #76 on: May 07, 2011, 12:12:32 AM »

I have to say that I like him even less after running across this bio.  He certainly throws some stones from that glass house of his.
http://www.nndb.com/people/428/000022362/

 

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Callers are pre-screened; few who disagree with the host are allowed on the air.


Actually, they do put people who disagree through.  Very few who agree or disagree actually ever get to the air because even those who agree often don't "make the cut."  When they do put disagreers through, occasionally they sound like bitter jackwagons, but if they make good points Rush will deal with their issues.

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Limbaugh occasionally mentions Woodruff's help, but he never mentions that Woodruff was openly gay, and died of AIDS in the 1980s.
???  What does one have to do with the other?  Is there some reason Rush should mention Woodruff was either gay or died from aids?  It seems to me that there are some liberals who expect if friends or coworkers are gay or have aids, they should somehow magically "change their minds" on homosexuality.  
I don't really see why.  As Christians say; "love the sinner, hate the sin."  People actually can get along despite such differences .... really.  

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..... that America has more forest land now than in 1492 (according to US Forest Service estimates, about 250,000,000 acres have been cut),

To criticize both Rush and this article; how does anyone really know how many trees there were in 1492?  We didn't even have a good idea of the size or shape of the land let alone what parts were forrested.  And notice this article states how much was supposedly cut, but doesn't say how many trees were planted.  That happens, you know.

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that 75% of Americans who earn minimum wage are teenagers on their first job (in reality, the vast majority of minimum wage workers are over the age of 20),
Really?  Source?
A lot of teenagers especially in the southwest who held minimum wage jobs in years past have been replaced with illegal aliens in many places.  Even people in their 20s are at the beginning of their careers and will not likely pull in high salaries.  This is largely a "non"story.

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He has also given occasional credence to fringe conspiracy theories, claiming, for example, that Vince Foster was murdered instead of committing suicide, and that the crime took place in an apartment leased to Hillary
Clinton.
They can't even get their claims right; Rush claimed it happen in Foster's office, and it was sarcasm.  Foster's murder ...or suicide... always remained questionable.  Supposedly a individual who discovered the body claimed there was no gun present, but one turned up later.  Other claims indicate Foster's shoes were clean even after walking through the dirt and naked ground of the park....suggesting he was dumped.  Limbaugh may have tangentially remarked on these subjects, but there were plenty of open questions concerning this case at the time, and plenty of others who were more deeply involved in perpetuating stories -- including especially radio personality G. Gordon Liddy, whose experience with the F.B.I. tend to give somehat more credence to this odd mystery than Limbaugh ... who I suspect may have once read a Sherlock Holmes story.


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In his book The Way Things Ought To Be, Limbaugh wrote, "I believe that strong, wholesome family values are at the very core of a productive, prosperous, and peaceful society." So what are Limbaugh's family values? His first wife, Roxy Maxine McNeely, was a sales secretary at a Kansas City radio station. She was granted divorce under grounds of incompatibility after almost three years of marriage. His second wife, Michelle Sixta, was an usher at the Royals' ball park. They divorced after about five years. He met his third wife, aerobics instructor Marta Fitzgerald, through CompuServe's dating service, and Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas performed their wedding ceremony. According to the Palm Beach Post, Limbaugh and Fitzgerald maintained separate houses during their marriage. She divorced Limbaugh at his request after ten years of marriage, at about the time Limbaugh began dating then-CNN anchor Daryn Kagan.....

I am always puzzled by these types of statements.  Are we to assume that people who have experienced bad marriages and divorces should promote bad family values instead of wholesome values?  I see nothing hypocritical (if that is the author's intent) in promoting family values just because one has had marrital problems.  He hardly promotes himself as a marriage counselor.  One doesn't enter a marriage intending to experience a bad marriage or divorce, and given this country's recent history, the number of divorces in recent decades has caused plenty of alarm amongst many conservative pundits and others.  


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When his comments are taken as offensive, Limbaugh seems to enjoy the added attention. Among his more famous lines, he described the abuse at Abu Ghraib, where prisoners were stacked naked, sexually taunted and beaten while blindfolded, as the equivalent of "hazing, a fraternity prank".


Compared to more historical examples of prisoner abuses and torture, the horrible fact is that by comparison, Limbaugh's remark is quit true.  Calling them a "fraternity prank" does demean them but Limbaugh never claimed that the abuses should be ignored, and made pains to point out they were being dealt with by military authorties.

The cyst situation is something that is truly bizarre ....I seem to recall Rush stating that was indeed the case why he was defered but the article claims he denied it, even though it was a justifiable reason for a deferment.

A lot of this can be attributed to Rush's bombastic style and people who oppose Rush politically.  

Perhaps one might be offended in his occasional hypocrises and his other apparantly "beyond-the-pale" remarks, yet I've heard plenty of reports about the assinine antics and remarks of liberal hosts, so my ultimate reaction is that those who are without sin, ought to be the ones who cast the first stone.  
There's plenty of acid tongues on both sides of the political spectrum.

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Re: Rush Limbaugh today
« Reply #77 on: May 07, 2011, 03:19:27 AM »
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There's plenty of acid tongues on both sides of the political spectrum.

been gone from net activities due to rotten satt connection & this thing is still being hashed out?
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This well known liberal talk show host is in jail for child porn
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Re: Rush Limbaugh today
« Reply #78 on: May 07, 2011, 03:59:41 AM »
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..... that America has more forest land now than in 1492 (according to US Forest Service estimates, about 250,000,000 acres have been cut),

To criticize both Rush and this article; how does anyone really know how many trees there were in 1492?  We didn't even have a good idea of the size or shape of the land let alone what parts were forrested.  And notice this article states how much was supposedly cut, but doesn't say how many trees were planted.  That happens, you know.


Somewhere, in my family's massive collection of National Geographic magazines, is an article (actually more of a sidebar, really; I think it was published sometime between 2006 and 2010) that says something pretty close to what Rush said there.  IIRC, the article didn't mention 1492 specifically; it was more along the lines of either since widespread settling of the continent or since the first settlers actually started moving inland from the east coast.

Thing is, we've been planting boatloads of trees for decades now, both for ornamentation and to make up for what we cut down. Trees are a renewable resource. 

Fun fact from the same article: new growth trees sequester more carbon and release more oxygen than old growth.

National Geographic isn't exactly a conservative publication.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh today
« Reply #79 on: May 07, 2011, 09:35:44 AM »
rush is a nice enough guy in person but when he dons the mantle of spokesperson for "family values"  and then returns from his costa rican "junket " with leftover viagra it makes a fellow chuckle though i suppose hes being true to one of his "principles" in that he went there rather than brought anyone here "to do the jobs americans don't want to do".  he paints a bullseye on himself when he breaks bad on so many others while his own glass house is so frail
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Re: Rush Limbaugh today
« Reply #80 on: May 07, 2011, 10:21:39 AM »
And about his accusations of Joschka Fischer:

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Re: Rush Limbaugh today
« Reply #81 on: May 07, 2011, 11:41:17 AM »
To criticize both Rush and this article; how does anyone really know how many trees there were in 1492?  We didn't even have a good idea of the size or shape of the land let alone what parts were forrested.  And notice this article states how much was supposedly cut, but doesn't say how many trees were planted.  That happens, you know.



Somewhere, in my family's massive collection of National Geographic magazines, is an article (actually more of a sidebar, really; I think it was published sometime between 2006 and 2010) that says something pretty close to what Rush said there.  IIRC, the article didn't mention 1492 specifically; it was more along the lines of either since widespread settling of the continent or since the first settlers actually started moving inland from the east coast.

Thing is, we've been planting boatloads of trees for decades now, both for ornamentation and to make up for what we cut down. Trees are a renewable resource. 

Fun fact from the same article: new growth trees sequester more carbon and release more oxygen than old growth.

National Geographic isn't exactly a conservative publication.



my recollection of the article was that since the war of northern aggression there has been an increase in tree cover east of the mississippi
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Rush Limbaugh today
« Reply #82 on: May 07, 2011, 01:03:15 PM »
What is this thread about? Okay, Limbaugh's a flawed man.  Who denies that?  But who isn't?  What matters is that no one is better at unpacking what's going on politically in America.  Others may be his equal, both on air and in print, but no one's done it better for as long and without his active participation on the political scene the conservative movement in America would be a footnote in a history book.
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Re: Rush Limbaugh today
« Reply #83 on: May 07, 2011, 01:47:32 PM »
Make sure your speakers are up, everyone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IU1bzZheWk

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