2-cycle oil

[zxcvbob]

I took the afternoon off to goto Cabela's today to buy a "Rough Rider" .22 single action revolver they have on sale for $149.  Got there and they told me "we don't sell those in MN but we forgot to put that in the ad this time. Sorry!" 


So I browsed thru the store, looked at the "mountain", and I bought some ammo. 

I was looking at the various marine and 2-cycle oils, and I noticed their Cabela's brand synthetic blend outboard motor oil was rated both TC-W3 and JASO-FD.  And it's only $17.99 a gallon.  I was going to buy a quart of it to try it out, but the quarts were $8.99 so I passed on that.  Isn't JASO-FD the current highest rating for air-cooled 2-cycle engines? (and it's low ash)  How is that compatible with a TC-W3 rating which is ashless oil for water-cooled 2-cycles?  It had dilution instructions for up to 100:1, so I know it's premix oil.

I have half a quart bottle of Castrol 2-cycle and almost a full bottle of Quaker State (one is dyed green and the other red, it's like Christmas) and a few little bottles of Stihl and Echo brand oils already, so I don't really to buy any more for a decade or so...

[grislyatoms]

I ran fossil Valvoline through my 9.9 Evinrude, season after season, with no complaints either from engine or owner  .

[Tallpine]

Don't use anything but a name brand (Stihl, Husky, etc...) CHAINSAW 2-cycle oil in your new Husky or any other chainsaw!

[zxcvbob]

I'm currently using the Husky oil that came with the saw; when that runs out I will switch to the Echo and Stihl oil that I already have in little bottles. 

I've been using the Castrol and Quaker State air-cooled oil in the string trimmer and occasionally in chainsaws for 20-something years; but not very often in the chainsaws (just when I have a very small job to do and don't have any gas mixed.)  I don't run the string trimmer wide open.  Usually it has a metal blade on it that's perhaps a little too big, so it's working pretty hard but doesn't rev really high like a chainsaw can.

What I'm looking for is a TC JASO-FD synthetic oil that I can buy in quarts instead of tiny bottles.  Quicksilver PWC synthetic oil looks like a good candidate.  Conoco "76 Airkool" will definitely work if I can ever find it for sale.

[41magsnub]

Don't use anything but a name brand (Stihl, Husky, etc...) CHAINSAW 2-cycle oil in your new Husky or any other chainsaw!

For my own education, why is that?  Is it a warranty thing?

[RaspberrySurprise]

For my own education, why is that?  Is it a warranty thing?

I have a feeling it's a "how not to make your saw die a horrid death" thing.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

i buy the lil bottles by the case.  the size that will make 2 galls of 32 to one.  never have to mismeasure.  i also dump the oil in when i leave the house to buy gas.  EVERYTIME. i only had to burn up one saw to learn my lesson

[Tallpine]

For my own education, why is that?  Is it a warranty thing?

Well, yes - it's a warranty thing too.

Consider that modern chainsaws run 12-13K rpm.  There's nothing between metal and metal but that 1/50 of oil in the gas-air mixture.  Chainsaw mix oils are made with a special "slick" molecule that provides just enough lubrication.

I still have a bunch of the 5-gal mix bottles.  Back in the day, I would go through 5 gallons of gas per week.

I always squirt a little gas in the oil bottle and rinse it out, too. 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

much of my stuff is able to run 50 - 1  or evemn higher.  i run everything at 32 to one.   ythe ll bit of smoke and loss of power is worth it for the long life