Author Topic: A little technical help, please. (Read 4779 times)

Chuck Dye · « **on:** July 15, 2011, 02:22:11 PM »

Replying to the thread about hot sauces, I wanted to use the proper spelling of jalepeÃ±os so I typed jalapeños. I got no joy in the preview, so I composed in my word processor, copied, and pasted.

This morning I was playing with the preview function and ñ produced the desired Ã± . Once, standing alone. When I typed in jalapeños, again no joy. There after, the ñ produced no Ã± either standing alone or within jalepeÃ±os.

Any suggestions? I know I could, and probably should, return to the word processor, this is just a bit of curiosity about the system.

Fitz · « **Reply #1 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:31:43 PM »

Or, just use it without the accent when talking on teh interwebz...

Chuck Dye · « **Reply #2 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:42:14 PM »

Quote from: Fitz on July 15, 2011, 02:31:43 PM

Or, just use it without the accent when talking on teh interwebz...

Where is the fun in that? Or the pedantry?

It is a tilde, BTW, not an accent, and Ã± is a separate letter in Spanish, distinct from n. Jalapeno is a misspelling.

The question is really one of why the HTML code only works intermittently.

AJ Dual · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:42:48 PM »

Are you running Windows of some flavor?

Just go to start-run and type in "charmap" then you can cut-n-paste the desired non-US characters from there.

I also just type in the anglicized form of the word in to Google, and copypasta the results with the tildes and umlauts in them.

Fitz · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:45:13 PM »

I think you can set up a keyboard shortcut for accented characters

Yep

JalapeÃ±os

ALT 164

Increment by one to get the capitals

http://www.spanishnewyork.com/spanish-characters.html

BAM

AJ Dual · « **Reply #5 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:50:18 PM »

Ã± Ã± Ã±

Yeah, works here for me too. (64bit WiÃ± 7, Chrome) Might be your browser does Ã±ot iÃ±tercept the ASCII codes right wheÃ± it's displayiÃ±g/reÃ±deriÃ±g the posting box for APS.

What are you usiÃ±g Chuck?

Chuck Dye · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:54:58 PM »

Win7x64, Firefox 5.

My real curiosity is about the on again, off again results.

Thanks, Fitz and AJ Dual, for the alternate paths.

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #7 on:** July 15, 2011, 05:01:09 PM »

Works fiñe for me too. _¡Olé!

Another source for alt key codes.
http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codealt.html

Brad

Nick1911 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 15, 2011, 05:31:47 PM »

Doesn't work at all for me.

Firefox, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

coppertales · « **Reply #9 on:** July 15, 2011, 07:39:10 PM »

Don't sweat it. We will know what you are talking about.................................................have you tried it with habenero? chris3

Chuck Dye · « **Reply #10 on:** July 15, 2011, 07:58:05 PM »

There is no Ã± in habanero!

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #11 on:** July 15, 2011, 09:01:33 PM »

If you're using the ASCII codes (ALT + ###) you have to use the numeric keypad, it won't work with the number along the top row, above the QUERTY line.

Chuck Dye · « **Reply #12 on:** July 15, 2011, 10:05:15 PM »

If I open this thread, type ñ, and click on preview, I am rewarded with Ã±, but only the first time. Every subsequent time I use ñ I get the code as typed. If I close and reopen the thread, the first, and only the first, use of ñ produces Ã± and all subsequent uses produce ñ. Whether I use the QWERTY numbers or the key pad makes no difference. The why of that behavior is my question, not how to produce Ã±.

CNYCacher · « **Reply #13 on:** July 17, 2011, 12:05:28 PM »

Quote from: Chuck Dye on July 15, 2011, 10:05:15 PM

If I open this thread, type ñ, and click on preview, I am rewarded with Ã±, but only the first time. Every subsequent time I use ñ I get the code as typed. If I close and reopen the thread, the first, and only the first, use of ñ produces Ã± and all subsequent uses produce ñ. Whether I use the QWERTY numbers or the key pad makes no difference. The why of that behavior is my question, not how to produce Ã±.

The WHY of that behavior is that the forum software, which SHOULD be filtering everything you type so that you are unable to inject HTML code into the page, is malfunctioning.

ñ is not the proper way to type the Ã± character, unless you are programming HTML code. It doesn't really mean anything outside of a browser, and only then when you can insert it into a document at the source code level. The forum software should not be allowing you to inject code at the source code level like that: it's a security risk and a bug. The HTML code for the & symbol is & so, when you type "ñ" into the input box and hit preview or post, the forum software SHOULD be converting that to "&#241;" so the browser will display "ñ".

Chuck Dye · « **Reply #14 on:** July 17, 2011, 01:51:54 PM »

Thanks, that is the sort of answer I was looking for. Curiosity satisfied. (Producing the Ã± was never really an issue.)

230RN · « **Reply #15 on:** July 17, 2011, 02:35:28 PM »

I just have a table of wierd characters in Notepad (I should be using MS-Word, I know) with a shortcut to it on my desktop. when I want one, I open that up and paste and copy it to my post. Don't have to eff around with HTML or unicoding that way. Simple, fast. I also keep some handy URLs for smileys from GRM on hand in the same file.

Here's my sloppy and disorganized table:

Quote

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/shocker.gif (WHAT?)

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/evil.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/cussing2.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/banghead.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/angryfire.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/redface.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/uhoh2.gif

http://gunrightsmedia.com/images/smilies/smile.gif

hawaii2a return to topic:

http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/stopjack

DAMN CUTE DON'T GIVE A DAMN GIF:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/rinselman/smilies/giveadarn.gif

CIGAR SMOKING SMILEY:

http://picpaste.novarata.net/pics/a31bc8d7201168fb5a8e451e2a0a0d20.gif

SYMBOLS from Wiki:
MUSICAL NOTES ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_symbol

Punctuation and symbols

micro Âµ
degree ( Â° )
copyright symbol ( Â© )

apostrophe ( ’ ' )
brackets ( [ ], ( ), { }, ? ? )
colon ( : )
comma ( , )
dash ( ?, –, —, ? )
ellipsis ( …, ... )
exclamation mark ( ! )
full stop/period ( . )
guillemets ( Â« Â» )
hyphen ( -, - )
question mark ( ? )
quotation marks ( ‘ ’, “ ” )
semicolon ( ; )
slash/stroke ( / )
solidus ( / )
Word dividers
space ( ) ( ) ( ) (?) (?) (?)
interpunct ( Â· )
General typography
ampersand ( & )
at sign ( @ )
asterisk ( * )
backslash ( \ )
bullet ( • )
caret ( ^ )
currency (generic) ( Â¤ )
currency (specific)
Â¢ $ â‚¬ Æ’ Â£ Â¥
dagger ( â€ , ‡ )
ditto mark ( ? )
inverted exclamation mark ( Â¡ )
inverted question mark ( Â¿ )
number sign/pound/hash ( # )
numero sign ( ? )
ordinal indicator ( Âº, Âª )
percent etc. ( %, â€°, ? )
pilcrow ( Â¶ )
prime ( ', ?, ? )
registered trademark ( Â® )
section sign ( Â§ )
service mark ( ? )
sound recording copyright ( ? )
tilde ( ~ )
trademark ( â„¢ )
underscore/understrike ( _ )
vertical/broken bar, pipe ( |, Â¦ )
Uncommon typography
asterism ( ? )
tee ( ? )
up tack ( ? )
index/fist ( ? )
therefore sign ( ? )
because sign ( ? )
interrobang ( ? )
irony & sarcasm punctuation ( ? )
lozenge ( ? )
reference mark ( ? )
tie ( ? )

upside-down caret (carol) There's ? (▲) and ? (▼)

Kind of a sloppy list; some of them made it into Notepad, some didn't, but the ones I usually want are there. The ones above with question marks didn;t make it into Notepad --shoulda used Word or Wordpad, but if it ever gets to be a problem, I'll redo the list/table in those word processors.

I haven't had a need for an "enye", but I Googled it and can add it to my table:

Quote

Typing Spanish Written Accents
www.studyspanish.com/accents/typing.htm - CachedSimilar
How to type Spanish written accents. ... For the Ã±, hold down the Option key while you type the n; release and type n again. Ã± = Opt + n, then n ...

There, see? Ã± Ã± Ã± Ã± Just pasted it to this line.

JalapeÃ±o.

As they say, if you want to find an easier way to do a job, give it to a lazy man.

Â¡ And that's me to a T !

Terry, 230RN

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #16 on:** July 17, 2011, 03:01:09 PM »

START -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Character Map

Put a shortcut to it in the system tray

230RN · « **Reply #17 on:** July 17, 2011, 03:48:17 PM »

And it takes how long to find an enye in the character map?

GigaBuist · « **Reply #18 on:** July 18, 2011, 01:59:18 PM »

Quote from: 230RN on July 17, 2011, 03:48:17 PM

And it takes how long to find an enye in the character map?

About 6 seconds. :)

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