Author Topic: AK optics: the right and wrong way (Read 29573 times)

Plenty of guys are running Aimpoints on their AKs, mounted on an Ultimak without any problems. It really helps that the battery compartment is up on top vs. on the bottom like an EoTech.

kgbsquirrel · « **Reply #35 on:** August 11, 2011, 03:24:34 AM »

Quote from: CypherNinja on August 11, 2011, 12:37:05 AM

Done right: http://atteroarms.com/products.html

Neat stuff, thanks for the link.

MicroBalrog · « **Reply #36 on:** August 11, 2011, 04:43:32 AM »

Quote from: White Horseradish on August 10, 2011, 07:50:29 PM

Somebody needs to redo the sound track. That song should be taken out and shot.

Picky-picky.

Here's a completely different girl in a striped shirt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2W47fpL7pI

AJ Dual · « **Reply #37 on:** August 11, 2011, 10:07:37 AM »

Quote from: CypherNinja on August 11, 2011, 12:37:05 AM

Done right: http://atteroarms.com/products.html

I was SO excited when I saw this. LaRue had the AK Iron-Dot for awhile, but ceased production, and has yet to bring it back.

However, some of their employees (from Attero Arms, linked above NOT LaRue sorry.., if not the owner got caught shilling on AK47.com and elsewhere recently.

Midwest Industries also came out with a unit, and I like it's looks a little better.

Balog · « **Reply #38 on:** August 11, 2011, 10:45:15 AM »

O rly? I knew people hated LaRue but I hadn't heard they'd been caught shilling.

AJ Dual · « **Reply #39 on:** August 11, 2011, 11:23:52 AM »

Quote from: Balog on August 11, 2011, 10:45:15 AM

O rly? I knew people hated LaRue but I hadn't heard they'd been caught shilling.

CRITICAL edit above.

Attero was the one shilling. LaRue has their own entire sub-forum over there, no need to shill anything. Except maybe go around the net and tease ARMS for trying to patent the number "17".

Balog · « **Reply #40 on:** August 11, 2011, 11:30:38 AM »

Quote from: AJ Dual on August 11, 2011, 11:23:52 AM

CRITICAL edit above.

Attero was the one shilling. LaRue has their own entire sub-forum over there, no need to shill anything. Except maybe go around the net and tease ARMS for trying to patent the number "17".

Ahhhhh, that makes more sense. Thanks :)

White Horseradish · « **Reply #41 on:** August 18, 2011, 09:42:30 PM »

Quote from: MicroBalrog on August 11, 2011, 04:43:32 AM

Picky-picky.

Here's a completely different girl in a striped shirt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2W47fpL7pI

There is no perfection in this world. Her accent is goofy. The whole thing is still hella kitschy. But abstracting from the setting, yeah. Girl in striped shirt. :)

Scout26 · « **Reply #42 on:** August 18, 2011, 11:31:40 PM »

And like most of the US Army, (which thankfully is getting rid of the beret for regular units), no one in Russia knows who wear the beret properly either.

HForrest · « **Reply #43 on:** August 19, 2011, 04:23:11 AM »

I am not very familiar with AKs, but the idea that the Ultimak and similar rails clamp onto the barrel has always bugged me. It seems to work fine for enough people, so I don't know. I've always liked the Larue iron dot concept, people seem to think the rear sight base is a solid enough mounting platform, and it's a pretty streamlined and lightweight option, but it seems like they haven't been making them for years. Midwest Industries finally came out with something similar recently: http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=421&CFID=21582219&CFTOKEN=14140114 I can't say from any experience, but it seems like it would be an ideal solution for putting a red dot on an AK.

Balog · « **Reply #44 on:** August 19, 2011, 08:41:03 AM »

Ultimaks clamp to the gas tube, not the barrel.

lee n. field · « **Reply #45 on:** August 19, 2011, 09:22:57 AM »

Quote from: Balog on August 19, 2011, 08:41:03 AM

Ultimaks clamp to the gas tube, not the barrel.

They replace the gas tube, with a couple straps under the barrel and screwed down tight.

AJ Dual · « **Reply #46 on:** August 19, 2011, 12:00:56 PM »

Quote from: lee n. field on August 19, 2011, 09:22:57 AM

They replace the gas tube, with a couple straps under the barrel and screwed down tight.

I've also heard more than a few anecdotal reports that properly installed and torqued Ultimaks have improved the accuracy of AK/AKM variants noticeably.

I suspect it significantly alters or reduces barrel whip when firing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeeeFxA_9nA All barrels flex to some degree or another when fired, the trick is to get them to do it consistently shot to shot.

However, heat is still the Achilles heel of the design. AK's do get ferociously hot in short order. I've charred/smoked wooden handguards in just two mags/60 rounds of slow-fire, one shot every 5-10 seconds or so.

Balog · « **Reply #47 on:** August 19, 2011, 01:42:50 PM »

Quote from: lee n. field on August 19, 2011, 09:22:57 AM

They replace the gas tube, with a couple straps under the barrel and screwed down tight.

I stand corrected.

tokugawa · « **Reply #48 on:** August 20, 2011, 11:01:49 AM »

What would be nice is an AK trunnion with the top milled as an integral rail- no goofy conversion of the iron sight mounting. Just a nice rock solid steel rail- yeah, for most folks it would have to be a factory gun or install, but still..

MicroBalrog · « **Reply #49 on:** August 20, 2011, 03:15:22 PM »

Quote from: tokugawa on August 20, 2011, 11:01:49 AM

What would be nice is an AK trunnion with the top milled as an integral rail- no goofy conversion of the iron sight mounting. Just a nice rock solid steel rail- yeah, for most folks it would have to be a factory gun or install, but still..

I give you, the Russian Army's new issue rifle, the AK74M3:

News:

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