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Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« on: October 20, 2011, 01:10:23 PM »
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/15725035/officials-claim-tennessee-becomes-first-state-to-deploy-vipr-statewide



What can we do to make sure this stops?

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"Where is a terrorist more apt to be found? Not these days on an airplane more likely on the interstate," said Tennessee Department of Safety & Homeland Security Commissioner Bill Gibbons.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 01:10:42 PM »
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/15725035/officials-claim-tennessee-becomes-first-state-to-deploy-vipr-statewide

Hm.  I STRONGLY suggest you tools stick to the commercial rigs, and leave us normal folks the hell alone.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 01:11:49 PM »
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 01:13:30 PM »
Is there a constitutional leg to stand on here because of "interstate commerce?"
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 01:16:06 PM »
Merged topics.

Sorry AZ, Jocassee's subject stays since he beat you by 19 seconds.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 01:18:57 PM »
Quote from: adively on October 20, 2011, 01:16:06 PM
Merged topics.

Sorry AZ, Jocassee's subject stays since he beat you by 19 seconds.

Victory! But seriously.

I will be calling my reps this afternoon demanding the TSA be disestablished.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 01:19:34 PM »
Just breaking...Freedom is terrorism. 
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2011, 01:22:22 PM »
Quote from: longeyes on October 20, 2011, 01:19:34 PM
Just breaking...Freedom is terrorism. 

{rummages through Rolodex}  Where is that TSA tip line?  I believe a comrade needs to be reported.  J/K.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2011, 01:26:38 PM »
Quote from: Jocassee on October 20, 2011, 01:13:30 PM
Is there a constitutional leg to stand on here because of "interstate commerce?"

Considering the other things they've been allowed to regulate, ban, tax, and abuse in the name of "interstate commerce."

More people and goods are moved on the ground than in the air.  Yet the TSA is knuckle deep in aviation transportation, assuring our "safety", feeling our wives' boobs, and looking in our children's diapers so that we can fly.  Next step is border checkpoints between the states, especially into high value targets such as DC and New York.  Hell, New York already has checkpoints during big events, especially travelling into tunnels and over bridges.  
They took away our money to "fight poverty."
They took away our rights to be secure in our property and persons to "fight drugs".
Now, they will take away our freedom of travel to "fight terror."

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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2011, 01:48:30 PM »
How poetic!

VIPR=SSSS (Someone Sees Something Somewhere)  ;/
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 02:28:10 PM »
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=31946.0

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It comes as no surprise that Tennessee jumped in first.  Some years ago, the head of the TN Dept. of Public Safety, or whatever runs their commercial vehicle program, went on record several times stating that a commercial trucker's 4th amendment rights do not exist within Tennessee's borders.  I passed through one scale in the mid '90s to see a truck in the inspection park, sleeper door open, and the driver's personal gear, including a boom box and TV, come flying out the sleeper door onto the pavement.  Perhaps a legitimate search, certainly not a legitimate search process.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2011, 02:33:23 PM »
But I thought TSA searches on aircraft were okay because you were making a choice to flight and if you didn't want to be searched you could just drive across the continent?

Has the government.... lied to me?
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2011, 03:26:20 PM »
Quote from: SADShooter on October 20, 2011, 01:48:30 PM
How poetic!

VIPR=SSSS (Someone Sees Something Somewhere)  ;/

That's one too many "S"'s
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 05:45:51 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on October 20, 2011, 03:26:20 PM
That's one too many "S"'s

SSSS (yes, that's 4 S's) is the TSA SooperSekritSkyuritee...Something  code for "agents at the security-theater checkpoint, feel free to pull this guy's pants down" - it gets printed on your boarding pass when you pick it up, and lets the security-theater agents know that you've won the special-screening lottery.

Though I'm tempted to say it's TWO too many S's... but that would be granting Team Sexual Assault far too much credit for effectiveness, really.

I wish I could say I was laughing at all those who had said "If you don't want to get groped, just don't fly!".  But being able to say "I TOLD YOU STUPID SORRY SONS OF B****ES SO!!!" is awfully cold comfort. :facepalm:
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2011, 06:10:57 PM »
Yall saw it predicted here months ago.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2011, 06:49:38 PM »
Quote from: erictank on October 20, 2011, 05:45:51 PM
I wish I could say I was laughing at all those who had said "If you don't want to get groped, just don't fly!".  But being able to say "I TOLD YOU STUPID SORRY SONS OF B****ES SO!!!" is awfully cold comfort. :facepalm:

Hear, hear.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2011, 07:38:33 PM »
I for one welcome our new overlords and their divine principle of interstate commercism.

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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2011, 07:47:15 PM »
Quote from: Chuck Dye on October 20, 2011, 02:28:10 PM
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=31946.0

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It comes as no surprise that Tennessee jumped in first.  Some years ago, the head of the TN Dept. of Public Safety, or whatever runs their commercial vehicle program, went on record several times stating that a commercial trucker's 4th amendment rights do not exist within Tennessee's borders.  I passed through one scale in the mid '90s to see a truck in the inspection park, sleeper door open, and the driver's personal gear, including a boom box and TV, come flying out the sleeper door onto the pavement.  Perhaps a legitimate search, certainly not a legitimate search process.

Tennessee is one of the states I most hated to drive my truck through. It was not unusual to see 10 to 20 creeper cops at the chicken house or rest area hammering the heck out of the trucks.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2011, 12:15:42 AM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on October 20, 2011, 01:10:42 PM
http://www.newschannel5.com/story/15725035/officials-claim-tennessee-becomes-first-state-to-deploy-vipr-statewide

Hm.  I STRONGLY suggest you tools stick to the commercial rigs, and leave us normal folks the hell alone.

Speak for yourself >:( I am getting really tired of checkpoints on 202 every week.  2011 Peterbilt gets the full treatment every time... commercial enforcement is way more profitable than civil.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2011, 12:24:23 AM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on October 20, 2011, 03:26:20 PM
That's one too many "S"'s

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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2011, 09:23:26 AM »
Quote from: BReilley on October 21, 2011, 12:15:42 AM
Speak for yourself >:( I am getting really tired of checkpoints on 202 every week.  2011 Peterbilt gets the full treatment every time... commercial enforcement is way more profitable than civil.

My town (Pearland, TX) has a highway running through it (TX 288).  The PD has a commercial division and they are consistently stopping trucks along 288 for revenue enhancement inspections.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2011, 12:46:29 PM »
It's heartening that we are fighting terrorism while The Terror inexorably spreads, with the consent of the governed, slowly but surely within American society.  We were warned what the price of fighting nameless, diffuse, and "asymmetric" terror would be, but we preferred "safety" to liberty and personal responsibility and government accountability.  Let George do it, we said.  Well, he did, and now Obama & Friends are doing it even better.
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2011, 12:52:28 PM »
Quote from: LadySmith on October 21, 2011, 12:24:23 AM
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Re: Now what? TSA Interstate checkpoints
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2011, 05:19:22 PM »
Quote from: BReilley on October 21, 2011, 12:15:42 AM
Speak for yourself >:( I am getting really tired of checkpoints on 202 every week.  2011 Peterbilt gets the full treatment every time... commercial enforcement is way more profitable than civil.

May I just take the time to say "Thank You" for buying a PACCAR product.  When it is time to replace it I hope you choose Peterbilt again (or Kenworth).  Which model are you driving?

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