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.22 lever action with side loading?
« on: November 18, 2011, 07:38:05 PM »
has anyone seen a .22LR levergun where you would load from the receiver (like most 30-30's) rather than the end of the barrel.  
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 08:18:21 PM »
Does Henry have that?
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 08:39:13 PM »
not the ones that i have seen.
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 08:56:10 PM »
No.

And it would be harder to use a loading gate for the ittybitty .22 than the standard tube. Better solution would be the buttstock arrangment that some .22s use. Or box mag fed like my 96/22. 25 rounds on tap and reloaded in seconds.
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 09:50:08 PM »
Or box mag fed like my 96/22. 25 rounds on tap and reloaded in seconds.

I've got an old Marlin 56 that's detachable box magazine fed.  I guess it wasn't very popular while the Marlin 57 version with a tube mag was.

Interesting little critter.  The lever only needs to swing a couple of inches so you can run the action while still keeping your grip.  Just spread open your hand and close it back up and the next shot is ready.  It's pretty fun.

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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2011, 12:33:32 PM »
NO

Remember, the original Henry .44 rimfire loaded in a similar manner to .22 tubefeed.
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 01:56:31 PM »
Since the topic is open, I'm gonna hijack it....

If you shoot a tube-fed .22 empty & don't have time to reload the tube, can you single-load it from the top?
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2011, 02:03:37 PM »
I've always thought a tube magazine with no loading gate (just the cartridge-shaped hole near the front style with the "tensioning insert," as it were) was probably one of the stupidest ideas ever to use in a firearm, much less one that has stood the test of time.  Yes, let's force the user to point their gun in an unsafe direction and put their hands near the muzzle while they're loading it.  :facepalm:

My first rifle (Marlin 60) was that way. Made learning the Four Rules a lot more annoying.
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2011, 02:16:45 PM »
I've always thought a tube magazine with no loading gate (just the cartridge-shaped hole near the front style with the "tensioning insert," as it were) was probably one of the stupidest ideas ever to use in a firearm, much less one that has stood the test of time.  Yes, let's force the user to point their gun in an unsafe direction and put their hands near the muzzle while they're loading it.  :facepalm:

My first rifle (Marlin 60) was that way. Made learning the Four Rules a lot more annoying.

yes, that's why I like the buttstock tube or a detachable box mag better. I have never liked the .22 style tube magazine weapons.

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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2011, 02:31:15 PM »
Since the topic is open, I'm gonna hijack it....

If you shoot a tube-fed .22 empty & don't have time to reload the tube, can you single-load it from the top?

yes, but it can be a pain to do, depending on the model.

No.

And it would be harder to use a loading gate for the ittybitty .22 than the standard tube. Better solution would be the buttstock arrangment that some .22s use. Or box mag fed like my 96/22. 25 rounds on tap and reloaded in seconds.

i like the idea of reloading with a mag, but it really kills the asthetics of a leveraction.
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 05:57:38 PM »
Since the topic is open, I'm gonna hijack it....

If you shoot a tube-fed .22 empty & don't have time to reload the tube, can you single-load it from the top?

If you get to that point, you really should have brought a bigger gun  :O


Or you could get an old single shot Ithaca 49  =D
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 08:11:39 PM »
I've always thought a tube magazine with no loading gate (just the cartridge-shaped hole near the front style with the "tensioning insert," as it were) was probably one of the stupidest ideas ever to use in a firearm, much less one that has stood the test of time.  Yes, let's force the user to point their gun in an unsafe direction and put their hands near the muzzle while they're loading it.  :facepalm:

My first rifle (Marlin 60) was that way. Made learning the Four Rules a lot more annoying.
Contrary to some I guess, I was taught that pointing up or in the dirt WERE safe directions.  Any other way was pointing it at someone or something.  Anyway, you can load it without putting your hands over the muzzle and you can at least open the action first.  
I figure the tube mag under the barrel is just easier to design.  


I shot one of these a lot growing up.  I always thought it was a good gun to learn with.  All the controls are manual.  You have load each round, close the action, aim, and pull back the hammer.  It also makes a good rifle to learn to safely drop the hammer down.  It was very accurate too.

I've never seen a .22 LR that used a loading gate.
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 08:20:11 PM »
I'm thinking the .22 rf rounds might not be robust enough to stand up to loading gate loading.
That and if you need to unload it is pretty easy to pop the tube and dump the magazine.
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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 08:57:22 PM »
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but it really kills the asthetics of a leveraction.

The nice thing about the 96/22 is that the factory mag is a flush fitting unit. The 25 rd 10/22 mag is completely optional. But really fun.

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Re: .22 lever action with side loading?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2011, 08:45:02 AM »
If you get to that point, you really should have brought a bigger gun  :O

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