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« on: March 31, 2005, 05:28:17 AM »
This is "Taurus" from the Shiavo "debate".  I'm assuming that he's trying to get permission to get back onto the board.

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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:14:17 -0500

   
Yeah right! It's me again Rat. Oleg wants me to send you an apology, so
here
it is:

I'm sorry you're a disgusting Rat, but it really wasn't my fault. One
must
always blame the parents.

Anyways

Did you get a hold of Pinhead (Sean Smith) yet? He wanted a debate,
however,
I'd like to make our intellectual challange one of equality. Therefore,
I
must lower my intelligence in order to better match his. So give me
some
time to catch up on killing off ... oh ... about a billion brain cells.
I'll
have to take up some of his recreational activities. Let's see .....
binge
drinking, pot smoking, perhaps some skateboarding with repetitive blunt
head
trauma. Maybe take some acid and play Ozzy records in reverse, hearing
the
message "Kill the helpless" over and over.

Sincerely,

Taurus

PS: You *expletive deleted*ck with the bull, you get the horns!


And it gets better

All BS aside now with the "Rat" bit - Just incase the previous msn
message
didn't reach you, this one should. Oleg wanted me to offer you and
Pinhead
an apology. Why? I don't know. I sometimes, but rarely, question his
feelings over such matters. He means well and he's a good man, but he's
terrible with matters of diplomacy and making proper judgmental calls.
I
cannot apologize where nothing was of wrongdoing. So outsiders were
offended. Big Deal! If the powers that be wanted an all fine and dandy
site,
full of illusions piled on top of delusions, where the community only
pretended to love and respect each individual unconditionally .. now
and
forevermore, this should have been outlined in the rules.

If a few death worshippers contest with me - a family oriented, clean,
sober, anti drug, indepenent thinker, and I end up on the losing end
via a
ban, so be it, then all that is left to be said is that there is a
clique at
APS involving Oleg, tyme, Preacherman, (who knows who else) and their
"favorites". You and Sean must be two within an elite group ... as I
see
both of you maintained your memberships at APS. It's a pretty sick site
overall, and my ban may have been the right thing for me.

If you're any, all, or some of these:

a perverted pedophile, a proud outspoken homosexual, a drug user, a
welfare
bum who is able to work but just refuses to, a hater of christianity
and/or
catholicism, an anti-family, anti-church, anti-life, pro-abortionist,
anti-First Amendment supporter ...

... then this is your site. You fit right in. Infact you would be
looked
upon favorably. Everything at APS will eventually turn stale as the
rules
strip from you your absolute First Amendment right and the demonic
minds
slowly creep in amongst you. I don't fit as a piece in the APS puzzle.
I was
a loud outspoken heart in rooms where no hearts existed.

So now I move on. THR is next to go. It's death in me is close and
imminent.
"The High Road" title is a farce! It could infact be The High Road if
placed
in the better hands.

For the record, I never hated you. I was just wanting to set you on the
edge, so you would deflate some of your own ego a bit and at least
consider
other ideas without bias.

Jim

Now I feel like Oleg, getting real hate mail.

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2005, 05:43:45 AM »
Some people just don't get it do they? I feel left out because I don't get any hate mail.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2005, 05:48:11 AM »
He's so deluded that he thinks he was banned for a dissenting opinion, completely disregarding the personal attacks as something other than that.

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2005, 05:48:31 AM »
I left town for a few days and noted upon my return that Taurus had "Banned" under his handle on one thread.  Wondered what that was about.   I now recall that "debate" was becoming quite heated over the Terry Schiavo situation.  

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2005, 06:09:20 AM »
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Some people just don't get it do they? I feel left out because I don't get any hate mail.
If it'll make you feel better, charby, I'll hate you.  Cheesy

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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2005, 06:36:20 AM »
Wow, Atc1man, I usually only get hecklers, and even then it's only once a month or so.  

Why is it that people who write nasty-grams like that never seem to have a command of English?

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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2005, 07:17:44 AM »
Man. I feel really left out. I've never got a single bonafide hate mail Huh? What am I doing wrong?

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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2005, 07:33:23 AM »
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If it'll make you feel better, charby, I'll hate you.  Cheesy

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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2005, 08:00:03 AM »
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Wow, Atc1man, I usually only get hecklers, and even then it's only once a month or so.  

Why is it that people who write nasty-grams like that never seem to have a command of English?
I think its a maturity level-issue.  People who aren't mature enough to engage in heated yet civil debate usually aren't mature enough to at least try to articulate a well thought out attack, either.

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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2005, 08:09:23 AM »
what was that bumpersticker shown in the movie 'saved'?


jesus loves you. everyone else thinks you're an a-hole


i gotta pity the person that is so full of hate while thinking they are righteously justified.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2005, 10:11:38 AM »
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APS involving Oleg, tyme, Preacherman, (who knows who else) and their
"favorites". You and Sean must be two within an elite group ... as I
see
both of you maintained your memberships at APS. It's a pretty sick site
overall, and my ban may have been the right thing for me.

If you're any, all, or some of these:

a perverted pedophile, a proud outspoken homosexual, a drug user, a
welfare
bum who is able to work but just refuses to, a hater of christianity
and/or
catholicism, an anti-family, anti-church, anti-life, pro-abortionist,
anti-First Amendment supporter ...

... then this is your site. You fit right in. Infact you would be
looked
upon favorably. Everything at APS will eventually turn stale as the
rules
strip from you your absolute First Amendment right and the demonic
minds
slowly creep in amongst you. I don't fit as a piece in the APS puzzle.
I was
a loud outspoken heart in rooms where no hearts existed.

So now I move on. THR is next to go. It's death in me is close and
imminent.
"The High Road" title is a farce! It could infact be The High Road if
placed
in the better hands.

For the record, I never hated you. I was just wanting to set you on the
edge, so you would deflate some of your own ego a bit and at least
consider
other ideas without bias.

Jim
I've seen kook-outs like this on Usenet for years.  

As far as the "elite group" bit goes, it's an awfully big "elite group.. "   Or is it elitist to remain at least somewhat civil?

A "sick site?"  I wonder what color the sky is in his world?

Plus, anyone who doesn't agree with him is a pedophile/outspoken homo/drug user/church hate? WTF?Huh?

To cut it short, I really think APS is a *LOT* better off without the likes of that...
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2005, 10:45:55 AM »
Taurus, in some other guise, is still on APS as an observer only. I have better things to do than to track down his new identity, so long as he keeps his word of honor and doesn't post.

 IMO, posting his emails only encourages more of the same abuse. As with any stalker, simply spamtrap his messages and refuse to acknowledge them. So long as the problems aren't on APS, I will let you work them out on your own. If the problems on APS resume, I will remove all of the offender's past posts as a warning shot.

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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2005, 11:14:27 AM »
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Man. I feel really left out. I've never got a single bonafide hate mail Huh? What am I doing wrong?
Don't look at me, I'm clearly this freak's #1 obsessive hate-object, and he never did send me an e-mail.  It is kind of pitiful that he contacts everyone BUT the person he has the real beef with, though.

I went back and looked at my DD214, didn't see anything about homosexual heavy-metal satanic stoner pedophilia on it.  Think it is a mis-print?  Tongue

Seriously, I'd encourage everybody to just ignore the crazed sissy from now on.  I'm not going to comment on him again unless he suicide bombs something.  The crazy e-mails are entertaining, but Oleg is right, he'll probably never shut up if they keep getting posted here.

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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2005, 11:56:17 AM »
I don't always agree with everyone here.  As I'm sure many don't always, (maybe seldom) agree with me.  But it is a really great place to spar like gentlemen and women.  It is a place that give one the opportunity to sit by ones self and think through a thing and then spar about it.  If it gets to the point one or more of ya'll are so totally out in left field (to my way of thinking), I just sigh, and most generally ignore that thread from then on.  None of us is ever right all the time, or the subject may be SO subjective as to not bother with.  For me it was Shiavo.  I think I might have posted one comment about my belief that blood is thicker than a marriage contract.  Just my opinion in that regard.  I am saddened by the whole thing, but in my mind, the Lord sometimes, as we have been endowed with free will, sits by and lets us do what we do in the hope that a better think results somewhere down the line.  Her final suffering will have long term (one hopes) eternal positive ramifictions for her.  Maybe some life changing things will occur to those of us left behind that will have eternal implications for us as well.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2005, 12:06:02 PM »
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If you're any, all, or some of these: ... a hater of christianity and/or catholicism ... then this is your site.
So, since I'm Catholic, I guess I'll have to go.  This must not be the board for me....  rolleyes

It always bothers me to see someone state that if you don't agree with their point of view, you must be driven by hate of some nature, and can't possibly be a good American/Christian/human being/etc.  I think Taurus has some maturing yet to do.  That kind of angry extremism is unhealthy.

Having said that, I agree with Oleg.  Blacklist his address and let's move on.

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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2005, 02:10:52 PM »
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As with any stalker, simply spamtrap his messages and refuse to acknowledge them. So long as the problems aren't on APS, I will let you work them out on your own. If the problems on APS resume, I will remove all of the offender's past posts as a warning shot.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2005, 05:58:11 PM »
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PS: You *expletive deleted*ck with the bull, you get the horns!
If you're getting the horns, I think you're doing it wrong... Wink
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2005, 12:17:01 AM »
Wow, what a flake. It's sad when a vocally self proclaimed christian makes such a proclamation amid a tidal wave of profanity and general intollerance. Could anything possibly be more contradictory?

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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2005, 05:41:11 AM »
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PS: You *expletive deleted*ck with the bull, you get the horns!
If you're getting the horns, I think you're doing it wrong... Wink
Yea, he says it like he's so tough and I'm so hurt by his hate mail.
I've gotten a few more, and am simply bored with it.  I responded every time with "And yet, you keep coming back for more".  Blocked his new email address, wondering if he'll make a new one up just to do it again...

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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2005, 05:52:17 AM »
He called you a rat. Thats so weak. I like being called dumb dumb. Its more 3rd grade. Rat, I think my grandmother used that once. And I have always liked the person that calls them self, or at least infers, a Christian only to show the most hateful language (c_yeager post also points this out).

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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2005, 05:56:10 AM »
Hey, Atc1man...

If his pursuit via email gets too out of hand, you can always contact his ISP and report him.  Might be best if you clearly communicate to him that his email is unwanted first, if you haven't done so already.
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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2005, 06:29:00 AM »
I'd report him to his ISP.  Send them all the e-mails you've gotten from him, including where you asked him to stop contacting you.  If that doesn't work, report him to the FBI... internet harassment is their jurisdiction.

"You *expletive deleted*ck with the bull, you get the horns!"

Isn't it funny that the guy really seems to dig the forced homosexual beastiality imagery?  Wink

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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2005, 09:55:19 AM »
Dang, I never get Hate mail either! And in his thread on Terri Schiave and the soul I asked him to calm down and be civil after he started making personal attacks.
I know what it is, I'm a woman, so he considers my opinions beneath his dignity to notice. Yea, that must be it. He's a misogynist. I can use big words like that 'cause he won't trouble himself to go to the dictionary and look it up. Might take time away from his letter writing campaign. LOL
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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2005, 10:16:16 AM »
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Oleg wants me to send you an apology, so here it is:
Maybe he doesn't know what an apology is? If he does know, and thinks that is one, I would hate to see a rant.
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2005, 10:03:47 PM »
OT, but... Holly? Your sig... am I reading it right? "We Came, We Saw, We Disceted it while it was alive"?