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Re: Punk Rockers Make Good Conservatives
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2012, 08:42:11 PM »
Well, let us take a look at some of the folk who often sail under the libertarian flag:
* anarcho-capitalism (Hell-O Murray Rothbard!)
* minarchism
* market anarchism
* libertarian anarchism
* propertarian anarchism


MB's point that libertarianism is not antithetical to (or is at least accommodating of) anarchism is spot-on.  In that sense, I agree, given the evidence.

I've already conceded several times that there are indeed libertarian anarchists. My point, which you seem determined to miss if at all possible, is that they are the MINORITY, and that their philosophy is not shared with the majority of libertarians, and that just because there are some anarchist libertarians doesn't mean that libertarianism = anarchism. Is that really so hard to comprehend?

I also never stated that their viewpoints were antithetical to libertarianism. Only that it was an extreme application of it.
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Re: Punk Rockers Make Good Conservatives
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2012, 12:01:45 PM »
I think roo_ster's point isn't that libertarians are anarchists, but more that people who call themselves libertarians but are not anarchists are using the wrong term for themselves. Or I think so anyway...
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Re: Punk Rockers Make Good Conservatives
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2012, 01:29:13 PM »
I think roo_ster's point isn't that libertarians are anarchists, but more that people who call themselves libertarians but are not anarchists are using the wrong term for themselves. Or I think so anyway...

OK, to clarify:
1. Many who claim to be libertarian, ain't, because they seem to think that small gov't conservatism/classical liberalism/adherence to the COTUS ~ libertarinism.  Which it ain't.  Read some Murray Rothbard.
2. Many who claim to be libertarian are quasi-anarchists.  Some are loud & proud about it, many use libertarianism as a false flag for respectability's sake.
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Re: Punk Rockers Make Good Conservatives
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2012, 01:40:28 PM »
First I was a Democrat (raised that way, from the South)

Then I became a Republican

Then I became a Libertarian

Now I'm starting to think Anarchist


Not sure where this is heading ...?
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Re: Punk Rockers Make Good Conservatives
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2012, 01:47:42 PM »
First I was a Democrat (raised that way, from the South)

Then I became a Republican

Then I became a Libertarian

Now I'm starting to think Anarchist


Not sure where this is heading ...?

Nihilism.
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Re: Punk Rockers Make Good Conservatives
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2012, 02:02:43 PM »
Nihilism.

There is no meaning in that to me.
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Re: Punk Rockers Make Good Conservatives
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2012, 04:06:35 PM »
I'm an anarchist because I'm not smart enough to be a libertarian.
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