Author Topic: Father Gets Traffic Ticket for Saving Son (Read 6690 times)

Ben · « **on:** May 22, 2012, 09:08:41 AM »

So there's a lot this guy could have done differently. He could have kept his son seat-belted in, he could have, as the cop said, "taken the five seconds to set the emergency brake" (maybe), but I'm guessing he was a pretty panicked person. Plus the cop telling him that if something had happened to his son that he would have been charged with child endangerment is a little over the top.

I'm sure this particular cop did everything according to the letter of the law, but sometimes the law is an ass (or people are).

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/21/saves-his-kid-loses-his-car-and-gets-ticket/?test=latestnews

Jamie B · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:34:00 AM »

Not the law, but the cop.

He took the opportunity to act like a jerk.

He will get his when it comes back around to him.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:48:32 AM »

I was going to say the insurance card ticket was worse, but both are nuts and just reflect on the character of the cop. I am sure the cop did look it up and knew the car was insured. If it was just the e-brake ticket, I can almost understand since the guy likely won't be billed for the crane even though he should be.

On the whole thing with the kid, would the kid have just kept running and sailed off the cliff? Probably not though I can understand the fear.

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2012, 09:55:16 AM »

5 year old boys are a handful.
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=leash+for+kids&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=3gq&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1291&bih=698&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=yMggPw81TPGqMM:&imgrefurl=http://leashkids.blogspot.com/&docid=RohBc4uySnDHOM&imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kEgrfH7qyfk/TcqpjY9k3FI/AAAAAAAAARU/h_GCObZYCks/s1600/child-safety-strap.gif&w=600&h=500&ei=LJq7T9WsLaPI6gHRs-2EDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=711&vpy=155&dur=5092&hovh=205&hovw=246&tx=94&ty=229&sig=117816086716176848151&page=1&tbnh=157&tbnw=188&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:80
it take less than a second to set the e brake.

makattak · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:01:08 AM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 22, 2012, 09:55:16 AM

5 year old boys are a handful.
it take less than a second to set the e brake.

Less "MASSIVE LINK OF DEATH!" now.

And, in defense of the guy, if I thought one of my little ones was going over a cliff, I doubt I'd even have a second thought about the car as I jumped out. (Although I'm trying to train them that the word "STOP" gets unquestioned obedience.)

cassandra and sara's daddy · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:29:16 AM »

Although I'm trying to train them that the word "STOP" gets unquestioned obedience

try that with wife first.....

let us know how it works out, if you are able

Tallpine · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:54:49 AM »

Parking ("emergency") brakes aren't very reliable anyway.

I've had the one on my pickup pop off while it was warming up, and I barely caught it before went through a fence and into a trailer house.

We had the cable brake fail on one of our wildland fire engines. Fully loaded, it jumped over a chock and went down the hill into a pine tree. Totalled the truck, but the apparatus was okay.

Wonder if the jeep was an auto or manual

Nick1911 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2012, 11:05:18 AM »

"I don't care, I'll pay it," Roder said. "It's just the principle. When something like that happens so fast, I could give a rat's a-- about the car."

You know, sometimes *expletive deleted*it happens. At least this guy has his priorities straight.

Tallpine · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2012, 11:16:01 AM »

I'm just trying to figure out if he left it in "Drive" ?

roo_ster · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2012, 11:25:21 AM »

The reporter does both us and his local readers a disservice by not mentioning the cops name just as he mentioned the father's name.

Maybe a little social suasion could bring the

cop around to civilized behavior.

brimic · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2012, 11:38:49 AM »

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You know, sometimes *expletive deleted* happens. At least this guy has his priorities straight.

+1
Too bad the cop was a total jackwagon.

K Frame · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2012, 12:26:52 PM »

The cops cut him a BUNCH of breaks. They didn't ticket him for:

Littering

Not wearing a life vest while boating

Failure to put out markers at the scene of an accident

Parking in an unmarked spot

Failure to register a watercraft

I'd say the cop was very reasonable.

TommyGunn · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2012, 12:59:58 PM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on May 22, 2012, 12:26:52 PM

The cops cut him a BUNCH of breaks. They didn't ticket him for:

Littering

Not wearing a life vest while boating

Failure to put out markers at the scene of an accident

Parking in an unmarked spot

Failure to register a watercraft

I'd say the cop was very reasonable.

Oh, funny....

geronimotwo · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:48:21 PM »

likely, this is the cop who would give a fireman a speeding ticket enroute to a fire.

RevDisk · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:00:12 PM »

Quote from: geronimotwo on May 22, 2012, 01:48:21 PM

likely, this is the cop who would give a fireman a speeding ticket enroute to a fire.

One better. Friend of mine got a ticket for speeding. She was driving an ambulance. With a patient in back. Supervisor had talk with chief. "Want us taking our time when one of your officers is down?"

griz · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:01:50 PM »

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Union County Police Chief Daniel Vaniska told FoxNews.com that his officers have some discretion about when and when not to write a ticket.
Vaniska said. "I can't comment on the discretionary practices of an officer

I can comment: very bad judgment on his part. The officer could take lessons from the man who values his son over his car and a stupid ticket. Sounds like an example of the officer demanding but not deserving respect.

makattak · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:04:16 PM »

Quote from: griz on May 22, 2012, 02:01:50 PM

I can comment: very bad judgment on his part. The officer could take lessons from the man who values his son over his car and a stupid ticket. Sounds like an example of the officer demanding but not deserving respect.

I've noticed an increase in that in our society: individuals in positions that once deserved respect expecting to be given the same respect previously granted those who had earned said respect.

(Teachers and journalists are two of the foremost examples in my mind right now.)

BlueStarLizzard · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2012, 02:29:25 PM »

Oh, if only it had been my mom and me. That cop would have gotten one of her patented "outraged citizens" lectures and it would have been beautiful. *sigh*

I think officer jack*** has never experianced or related to what a hyped up small child is capible of. When a 6 year old is racing about like a rabbit on speed and in the deep throws of happy oblivian, you do not stop to put on the parking break.

HankB · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:10:43 PM »

Quote from: geronimotwo on May 22, 2012, 01:48:21 PM

likely, this is the cop who would give a fireman a speeding ticket enroute to a fire.

Several decades ago I remember a story where just that happened - a volunteer firefighter, responding to an alarm, was stopped and ticketed on his way to the station by a cop who took his sweet time about writing things up.

It turned out it was the cop's own house that was on fire - talk about karma!

(IIRC, police department tried to blame the delay on the fireman, saying it was his fault for speeding . . . but that didn't go over too well.)

Quote from: roo_ster on May 22, 2012, 11:25:21 AM

The reporter does both us and his local readers a disservice by not mentioning the cops name just as he mentioned the father's name.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and those who engage in officious stupidity should not be granted anonymity.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:36:46 PM »

Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 22, 2012, 10:29:16 AM

Although I'm trying to train them that the word "STOP" gets unquestioned obedience

try that with wife first..... let us know how it works out, if you are able

My Dad disciplined and/or spanked my brother and I since before I can even remember. When he used the right tone of voice, we responded immediately. I am not sure I would be able to do that with kids myself.

My Mother, I am not sure what we would have done.

BlueStarLizzard · « **Reply #20 on:** May 22, 2012, 05:04:12 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on May 22, 2012, 04:36:46 PM

My Dad disciplined and/or spanked my brother and I since before I can even remember. When he used the right tone of voice, we responded immediately. I am not sure I would be able to do that with kids myself.

My Mother, I am not sure what we would have done.

It took my mom two trips to the er to get leverage for an immediate cease and dissist command.

And even that is not always capable cutting through a suger addled over excited childs selective hearing issues.

Lee · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2012, 05:35:01 PM »

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The cops cut him a BUNCH of breaks. They didn't ticket him for:

Littering

Not wearing a life vest while boating

Failure to put out markers at the scene of an accident

Parking in an unmarked spot

Failure to register a watercraft

I'd say the cop was very reasonable.

Ahhhh....he's probably just leaving some room for the EPA to level some more fines.

Tallpine · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2012, 05:41:13 PM »

Technically, we're supposed to be allowed to exceed the speed limit by 10mph when responding to a fire call in personal vehicles - which is the same amount that is allowed to emergency vehicles with lights flashing (good luck getting some of our trucks to go that fast).

I did quite a bit more than that in 2004 when we had a huge column coming up the hill. That fire came close to taking out our fire hall

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2012, 07:30:20 PM »

Two words: "New Jersey"

That explains everything.

CNYCacher · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2012, 08:30:11 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on May 22, 2012, 04:36:46 PM

My Dad disciplined and/or spanked my brother and I since before I can even remember. When he used the right tone of voice, we responded immediately. I am not sure I would be able to do that with kids myself.

It can be done without spanking (or minimal spanking). It takes a lot more effort though and a focus on consistency.

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Author Topic: Father Gets Traffic Ticket for Saving Son (Read 6690 times)