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this evening
« on: May 27, 2012, 12:04:07 AM »



luminary display at union cemetery
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Re: this evening
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2012, 12:53:16 AM »
Damn...
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Re: this evening
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2012, 03:12:06 AM »
Screen is a little blurry.
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Re: this evening
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2012, 09:12:16 AM »
Quote from: wmenorr67 on May 27, 2012, 03:12:06 AM
Screen is a little blurry.

darn dust is everywhere apparently....
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Re: this evening
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2012, 09:26:45 AM »
Wow. :'(
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Re: this evening
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2012, 10:51:42 AM »
Every year about this time I start seeing all sorts of articles, letters to the editor, and (yes) Internet posts suddenly remembering to thank all us living veterans for our service, and it never ceases to irritate me. We living veterans have out own holiday, called Veterans' Day. Memorial Day is the day when we are supposed to remember those who died in service, and I don't like the see that get lost by detours into other issues.

I had the good fortune to visit Normandy just prior to the 50th anniversary of D-Day, and the tour took us to several of the American cemeteries in Normandy and nearby. The experience was almost overwhelming for most of us, and perhaps maybe for me more than the others since I was (I think) the only veteran in the group as well as the only one whose father actually fought in WW2.

Please - let's keep Memorial Day for what it is. Watch this video and count up the numbers. Say a prayer for all those souls, as well as those who died in the Civil War, WW1, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Veterans' day comes later in the year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3m6-_PvgAc

C&SD, thanks for that photo. It's awesome.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2012, 11:19:17 AM »
Hawk, I'm not even a veteran, and what you just posted resounds with me.  I think the folks on here are starting to rub off on me, but hearing someone say "have a happy Memorial Day" just makes me want to strangle them....  And yeah, I usually get going on a diatribe of "what's the name of the holiday?  Oh that's right, Memorial Day....  As in, 'In Memory Of'.  It's a day of rememberance for those who have given their lives in service of our country.  SOMBER rememberance."

I will thank you Veterans for your service.  In fact, I do fairly frequently, not just on holidays that remind me to.  But tomorrow will be a day to remember, "Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand/Between their loved home and the war's desolation!"  Remember those who have stood for us, and given their lives. 
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Re: this evening
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2012, 11:21:51 AM »
Quote from: AmbulanceDriver on May 27, 2012, 11:19:17 AM
Hawk, I'm not even a veteran, and what you just posted resounds with me.  I think the folks on here are starting to rub off on me, but hearing someone say "have a happy Memorial Day" just makes me want to strangle them....  And yeah, I usually get going on a diatribe of "what's the name of the holiday?  Oh that's right, Memorial Day....  As in, 'In Memory Of'.  It's a day of rememberance for those who have given their lives in service of our country.  SOMBER rememberance."

I will thank you Veterans for your service.  In fact, I do fairly frequently, not just on holidays that remind me to.  But tomorrow will be a day to remember, "Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand/Between their loved home and the war's desolation!"  Remember those who have stood for us, and given their lives. 


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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2012, 11:43:25 AM »
No, and it's all your fault....   :D
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Re: this evening
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2012, 05:36:01 PM »
Quote from: Hawkmoon on May 27, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
Every year about this time I start seeing all sorts of articles, letters to the editor, and (yes) Internet posts suddenly remembering to thank all us living veterans for our service, and it never ceases to irritate me. We living veterans have out own holiday, called Veterans' Day. Memorial Day is the day when we are supposed to remember those who died in service, and I don't like the see that get lost by detours into other issues.

I had the good fortune to visit Normandy just prior to the 50th anniversary of D-Day, and the tour took us to several of the American cemeteries in Normandy and nearby. The experience was almost overwhelming for most of us, and perhaps maybe for me more than the others since I was (I think) the only veteran in the group as well as the only one whose father actually fought in WW2.

Please - let's keep Memorial Day for what it is. Watch this video and count up the numbers. Say a prayer for all those souls, as well as those who died in the Civil War, WW1, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Veterans' day comes later in the year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3m6-_PvgAc

C&SD, thanks for that photo. It's awesome.

This veteran concurs.
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Re: this evening
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2012, 06:24:32 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fredericksburg


15 k buried in just the union cemetary
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2012, 06:41:48 PM »
Let us not forget that despite their personal opinions regarding the matter at hand these folks not only stepped up to serve but made the greatest sacrifice for their country.  There are a few among them who intentionally did so.  That does not make the rest any less heroes.

It is good, especially in the current climate, to see and understand the amount of dedication, planning and work needed to bring about that scene.  If I could get this darned dust out of my eyes I'd say Thank You to all who were part of making it happen.

On a happy side note, so far I have not had to recite my Memorial Day rant.  Either folks have figured out which holiday it is and how it's supposed to be celebrated or they are just avoiding me on general principles.

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Re: this evening
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2012, 01:21:37 AM »
Quote from: Hawkmoon on May 27, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
We living veterans have out own holiday, called Veterans' Day. Memorial Day is the day when we are supposed to remember those who died in service, and I don't like the see that get lost by detours into other issues.

This is why I think only dead veterans should be eligible for the sale prices at the stores.  I might extend that to include their widows and minor children.
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2012, 08:34:31 PM »
I was very pleased today to see that of the folks I follow on Facebook, only one wished folks a Happy Memorial Day. I was also very proud of my daughter who posted about those who gave all.

Ben and I just watched "We Were Soldiers Once ... And Young." I'm having a hard time clearing my vision.

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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2012, 01:18:17 AM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on May 28, 2012, 08:34:31 PM
Ben and I just watched "We Were Soldiers Once ... And Young." I'm having a hard time clearing my vision.

I had managed to avoid that one for a long time. My wife made me watch it with her about a year ago. I had nightmares for a good month afterwards. (She did later apologize for making me watch it. She knew I was in Vietnam, but she had no concept of what that meant.)
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2012, 12:15:06 PM »
I've seen every movie made about Vietnam that I could find, read most of the books as well, and have spoken to more Vietnam Vets than I can count. I was told as a kid that my father was killed in Nam and I studied everything I could find about it because understanding the war and the people who served in it was the only way I could hope to understand the father who wasn't in my life.

In trying to learn more about him, I met some very interesting folks. I have a group of "honorary dads," men my father's age, who served at the same time, who assisted me in my research. What I learned over the years and from those men have had a similar impact on my life that a father might, and in some cases a stronger one. That war and some of the men who served in it shaped the belief system I live by today.

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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2012, 03:34:25 PM »
Quote from: MrsSmith on May 28, 2012, 08:34:31 PM
I was very pleased today to see that of the folks I follow on Facebook, only one wished folks a Happy Memorial Day. I was also very proud of my daughter who posted about those who gave all.

Happy Memorial Day! Went to an awesome pool party and had BBQ!


I know a lot of folks tweak out on both. If someone managed to kill me while I was still wearing the ugly monkey suit, someone wanted a gloomy day of being all emo, I'd rise from the grave to slap 'em. Seriously. I never recall being overseas thinking "Gee, if I die, I hope folks go all emo". I remember thinking, mmm, beer. And food that is actually food. And wimmin. Possibly sammichs... Bacon, goes without saying. Especially the bacon that seems to just melt in your mouth. Annnnnd, that's exactly what I did. Spent an afternoon around wimmin in bikinis, getting fed bacon cheeseburgers, washed down with Red Stripe. I highly recommend this as a way of honouring fallen vets. And so would they.

Seriously, celebrate life, cut a check to the freedom related cause of your pick, enjoy life, punch a hippy and be glad we haven't truly had to deal with a war on US soil since 1865.
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