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Ron Paul Tampa speech
« on: August 27, 2012, 12:03:11 PM »
Ron Paul's Tampa speech at the University of South Florida's Sun Dome. No way he would have been given the opportunity to say these things at the RNC.

Full Speech  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Lx88PwEWo

Excerpts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhYOsTsrs-E
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2012, 10:41:30 PM »
If what I'm hearing is right about the proposed RNC rule changes, backed by Romney and Rove, Paul is about to be written out of the Party along with anyone else whose hearts do not beat in the Neo-Con rhythm.
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2012, 10:57:01 PM »
If what I'm hearing is right about the proposed RNC rule changes, backed by Romney and Rove, Paul is about to be written out of the Party along with anyone else whose hearts do not beat in the Neo-Con rhythm.

The Romney-o-cons seem determined to piss off at least a quarter of the Republican Party.   ;/
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 12:41:55 AM »
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Paul is about to be written out of the Party along with anyone else whose hearts do not beat in the Neo-Con rhythm.

And does this surprise anyone? They've been trying to get rid of actual conservatives for a long time...

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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 01:18:45 PM »
Rush just put it all in a nutshell: "The Republic Party is a business."

And there's no room for the average guy to run this mega-corporation called the Republican Party.
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 01:58:11 PM »
Your vote counts, so long as you voted the way we wanted?
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 02:01:13 PM »
I understand that Rand Paul is going to be giving a speech at the convention on Wednesday.
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2012, 02:25:38 PM »
I am very curious as to what he will say. I would hope he drops a political bomb of some sort, some undeniable, feather-rustling comment about how lopsided and misguided the party has become, but then again I think he really wants a bright future within the party and will appease those who are currently calling the shots.

Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, "considering" talking about implementing the Gold Standard.... these all strike me as tactical feigns; shiny stickers to pull in all those disillusioned conservatives, independents, Ron Paul people and others who see Romney for everything he is NOT, and get them to support the ticket regardless of their loathing for the GOP handpicked nominee.

I mean WHO actually likes Mitt Romney?

(Mitt, put your hand down!)
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 02:30:41 PM »

I mean WHO actually likes Mitt Romney?

(Mitt, put your hand down!)

Did you notice?  Even HE hesitated.
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 02:42:21 PM »
The Romney-o-cons seem determined to piss off at least a quarter of the Republican Party.   ;/
Then factor in the moderates, Independents, women, Latinos, and blue collar folks.

Not many people left, are there?

Seems like they are doing their best to throw the election.......
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 03:24:16 PM »

Seems like they are doing their best to throw the election

I've been saying that for a while.  Not sure what they are up to...
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 04:19:18 PM »
I've been saying that for a while.  Not sure what they are up to...
Yes, I have seen this in your posts. I fear that the recent Stoopid Party labels might be accurate.
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 05:20:10 PM »
I mean WHO actually likes Mitt Romney?

Irrelevant.

Repeat after me: "Romney is not Obama."
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2012, 07:13:17 PM »
Rush gave his view of what the GOP honchos are up to.  They are not convinced Romney can/will win.  They are setting themselves up for 2016.  And, big one, they do not share the view of most on this Forum that this election is going to be "a defining moment" for the Republic.  They see it as just another election, business as usual, survivable for those with the right cover and connections.

Are they deluded?  Many of us might say so.
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2012, 09:15:45 PM »
Irrelevant.

Repeat after me: "Romney is not Obama."

have you looked at massachusets?
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2012, 09:34:51 PM »
Rush gave his view of what the GOP honchos are up to.  They are not convinced Romney can/will win.  They are setting themselves up for 2016.  And, big one, they do not share the view of most on this Forum that this election is going to be "a defining moment" for the Republic.  They see it as just another election, business as usual, survivable for those with the right cover and connections.

Are they deluded?  Many of us might say so.

Reagan in '80 this ain't.  I don't view this election as a historic watershed/turning point/tipping point election.  Business as usual, just another election.  The folks with the R. behind their name would be marginally better than the D.s.   Gyrating blindly to the edge of the abyss.

"He's not 0bama" -- there is certainly something to be said for that.
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2012, 09:43:51 PM »
It will be business as usual - The slime will continue to thrive.

Congress will be interesting, though.

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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2012, 10:34:07 PM »
But Ann Romey looks great and I vote for her to be Homecoming Queen.  What else matters? 
The Romneys are winners...not losers like R. Paul, who probably left the High School dance alone.
I already hate this election...were all losers after this.

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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2012, 12:42:08 PM »
It might be that the GOP is leaking voters fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cfklEHMLJQ

He did make an interesting comparison... if the Republican party is indeed solidifying into a Top down organization, where policy and voting is practically dictated and dissent is censored, where does that lead us?
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2012, 01:11:13 PM »
"Delegates from Nevada tried to nominate Mr. Paul from the floor, submitting petitions from their own state as well as Minnesota, Maine, Iowa, Oregon, Alaska and the Virgin Islands. That should have done the trick: Rules require signatures from just five states. But the party changed the rules on the spot. Henceforth, delegates must gather petitions from eight states." --The New York Times

Disrespected me and my state delegates at the convention, and now Paul Ryan sends me an email wanting me to send a donation to "Romney Victory, Inc."

I don't think so. Homey don't play that. 

*expletive deleted* Romney.
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2012, 01:42:31 PM »
I'm less than impressed at the convention manuevers, but bear in mind it's all been scripted at both conventions for a very long time.

Everyone frothing with Romneyhate, good luck. You are NEVER going to get a candidate that satisfies all your pet social conservative penchants. You will get 4 more years of Obama. And maybe I'm double layered with reynolds but I don't think power will be relinquished. Expect to see attacks on private retirement, private guns, private everything. More voter dilution, no more electoral college and a loaded supreme court. Feel free to be done with Romney, but let us know how you feel about your tacit vote for Obama in 4 years.
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2012, 03:23:27 PM »
Thing is, all those bad things people see happening under Obama... I don't see Romney going the opposite direction. I am CERTAIN that under BOTH candidates individual freedoms will continue to be attacked in the name of security, the National debt will continue to explode, systemic financial fraud will continue to be protected, plentiful wars will be had. And the Constitution will still be hanging on the toilet paper dispenser while we become powerless subjects of a bloated, hijacked State that does nothing more than harvest our labor for the benefit of a revolving set of special interests.

Romney is a completely insufficient alternative considering the current state of the Republic. He stands for nothing and is no leader. He is just an illusion of choice. A distraction. Is that all the Republican party has to offer?
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2012, 03:35:27 PM »
Thing is, all those bad things people see happening under Obama... I don't see Romney going the opposite direction. I am CERTAIN that under BOTH candidates individual freedoms will continue to be attacked in the name of security, the National debt will continue to explode, systemic financial fraud will continue to be protected, plentiful wars will be had. And the Constitution will still be hanging on the toilet paper dispenser while we become powerless subjects of a bloated, hijacked State that does nothing more than harvest our labor for the benefit of a revolving set of special interests.

Romney is a completely insufficient alternative considering the current state of the Republic. He stands for nothing and is no leader. He is just an illusion of choice. A distraction. Is that all the Republican party has to offer?

Hear, hear!
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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2012, 09:04:21 PM »
And this:  [ar15]

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Ron, Carol, and one of their granddaughters left the GOP snake pit yesterday afternoon, but the State was not yet through with them. At the little airport in Clearwater, 8 TSA agents descended on them and ordered them not to board their private plane. First, the pilots, the airplane, and the passengers would have to be screened in great detail, because Romney might be nearby. After a long examination of the pilots and their credentials, the agents said they had to check the plane for explosives. One of the pilots noted that the plane, full of gas, was already a bomb. Then Carol Paul, who has a heart pacemaker, refused to be screened, and an aide started taking video of the whole rotten proceeding. At that point, the TSA backed down and let them through.

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Re: Ron Paul Tampa speech
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2012, 11:22:52 PM »
Is he suggesting that the GOP somehow ordered the TSA to harass Ron?