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Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« on: September 07, 2012, 06:17:27 PM »
Not a lot of details here or what exactly the "assault rifles" are. They are mentioned as part of the ship's "anti-piracy package". Don't know my maritime law well enough to know if a commercial ship would have any more protection in a foreign port than a private vessel would, or if there are any specific new laws protecting ships that carry weapons due to the whole piracy thing over the last few years.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/09/07/us-ship-captain-detained-in-venezuela-after-guns-found-on-ship/
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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 09:35:48 PM »

Don't know my maritime law well enough to know if a commercial ship would have any more protection in a foreign port than a private vessel would, or if there are any specific new laws protecting ships that carry weapons due to the whole piracy thing over the last few years.



Probably depends upon the strength of the ship's home registered government.
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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 10:29:38 PM »
Does anyone else ever get the feeling that governments in general are in the business of protecting criminals ?

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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2012, 12:10:08 AM »
Does anyone else ever get the feeling that governments in general are in the business of protecting criminals ?

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Well, if "civilians" grew too strong for the criminals, they wouldn't need to take up good ol' Gubbermint's classic offer of Safety in exchange for Rights anymore...

Next thing you know, people might begin to doubt the necessity of government all together, and we can't have that, now can we?
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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2012, 08:18:26 AM »
Does anyone else ever get the feeling that governments in general are in the business of protecting criminals ?

 =|

charging honest people with a crime usually pays off better. 
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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2012, 12:01:42 PM »
Chavez is getting out of control (has been for a long time, in fact). It's time to send in the U.S. Marines.
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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2012, 04:25:52 PM »
Isn't his health deteriorating to the point he will be pushing the button at the Pearly Gates?  I don't know enough about Venezuelan politics to know if socialism will outlive him.  Anybody got clues?
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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2012, 11:51:28 AM »
I don't know of any designated heir apparent. I predict anarchy in Venezuela for some time after he kicks the bucket. He is NOT universally loved within the country, and I doubt that any successor will be able to get away with his power grabs.

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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2012, 01:24:32 PM »
Isn't his health deteriorating to the point he will be pushing the button at the Pearly Gates?  I don't know enough about Venezuelan politics to know if socialism will outlive him.  Anybody got clues?

Various reporters and pundits had Chavez knocking on deaths door, demanding to be let in for the better part of a year.  After his latest round of treatment in Cuba, those stories have disappeared.  I suspect he's going to be around for awhile yet.
This particular story about the ship captain being detained makes the tinfoil-hat-wearing monkey in me wonder if Chavez is doing a little favor for Obama. The One will appear to successfully negotiate the release of the ship and crew with Chavez, making him look all kinds of presidential just before the election.
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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2012, 10:12:28 PM »
Venezuela has been doing this for years. I don't know about commercial boats, but most US flagged private vessels avoid Venezuelan waters because it isn't safe unless you're armed and if you are armed, it'll go one of three ways. 1) You're able to bribe the officials and secure your weapons aboard the vessel (rare), or 2) They'll just take your weapons and pirates will conveniently find you that night and hold you at gunpoint while making off with anything of value (which the customs officials happened to make note of), or 3) You'll be "detained" if you don't have sufficient booze/bribes to make nice.
Vessels that wanted to see Venezuela, even with the risks, either handed their weapons off to another vessel and rendezvoused elsewhere to collect them back, or hide them in a well-concealed location aboard, or came prepared to offer suitable bribes.
And then there are the vessels that don't carry weapons but officials managed to find weapons aboard anyway.

If it weren't for the natural beauty and the fact that a case of decent rum was about $1.22 USD, most boaters would avoid the place like the plague.
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Re: Venezuela Detains US Ship Captain for Weapons
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2012, 10:28:57 PM »

If it weren't for the natural beauty and the fact that a case of decent rum was about $1.22 USD, most boaters would avoid the place like the plague.

That's enough to get me to visit! =D

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