Author Topic: Presidential debate # 3 (Read 15055 times)

MillCreek · « **on:** October 22, 2012, 09:54:47 PM »

So far, this is going a lot calmer than debates 1 and 2.

lupinus · « **Reply #1 on:** October 22, 2012, 10:19:27 PM »

A bit. I think Romney got off a little slow but has done well once things got rolling.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #2 on:** October 22, 2012, 10:28:09 PM »

The wife and I decided our time would be better spent in bed, She took a nap

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #3 on:** October 22, 2012, 10:35:41 PM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on October 22, 2012, 10:28:09 PM

The wife and I decided our time would be better spent in bed, She took a nap

......uh......not gonna say it...not gonna say it....

charby · « **Reply #4 on:** October 22, 2012, 10:36:20 PM »

I have a meh feeling about this debate.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #5 on:** October 22, 2012, 10:37:38 PM »

Quote from: charby on October 22, 2012, 10:36:20 PM

I have a meh feeling about this ~~debate~~. Election

FTFY

dm1333 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 22, 2012, 10:40:03 PM »

Sequestration is not going to happen? That was news to me. I was sort of amused by the President's expressions tonight too. There was a lot of this going on with him

edit: evidently David Plouffe is now saying that the sequestration cuts "shouldn't happen". Is that a worlds record for the quickest time between statement and back pedaling?

Unisaw · « **Reply #7 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:02:49 PM »

I think Romney seemed presidential. Obama seemed irritated and petty.

BobR · « **Reply #8 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:08:58 PM »

Quote

I think Romney seemed presidential. Obama seemed irritated and petty.

That.

bob

seeker_two · « **Reply #9 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:11:07 PM »

Lots of jabs, but no big punches. Call it a draw.

At least the moderator did a halfway decent job....

MillCreek · « **Reply #10 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:14:30 PM »

Quote from: seeker_two on October 22, 2012, 11:11:07 PM

Lots of jabs, but no big punches. Call it a draw.

At least the moderator did a halfway decent job....

I agree with this.

SADShooter · « **Reply #11 on:** October 22, 2012, 11:15:20 PM »

Quote from: seeker_two on October 22, 2012, 11:11:07 PM

Lots of jabs, but no big punches. Call it a draw.

At least the moderator did a halfway decent job....

Agreed on the draw. If Romney is no worse on foreign policy, he keeps the edge domestically. Romney on points. I'm not enthused, but modestly relieved...

charby · « **Reply #12 on:** October 23, 2012, 12:15:08 AM »

Quote from: Unisaw on October 22, 2012, 11:02:49 PM

I think Romney seemed presidential. Obama seemed irritated and petty.

Romney does have the quality about him, even you may not be agreeing with him, he does present his case in a calm rational manor.

Monkeyleg · « **Reply #13 on:** October 23, 2012, 01:06:35 AM »

Neither Romney nor Obama could afford to be overly aggressive in a foreign policy debate, and Romney is able to project a sense of strength while appearing calm. I don't think Obama has that ability. I think the debate was pretty much a tie, which makes it something of a win for Romney, whose foreign policy acumen has been questioned.

Former (I think) Nebraska Democrat Senator Bob Kerry once said, "Bill Clinton is an exceptional liar." I think Barack Obama is now the Picasso of the art of lying. Anything he said of substance was almost always a lie. When he talked about his foreign policy achievements, they were the achievements of the Bush administration, ones that Obama had opposed, or they were events that happened in spite of him. He talked about our alliance with Israel as if his snubbing of Netanyahu never happened, or that he tried to force the Israeli's to give over land to the Palestinians in exchange for nothing. He said that our economy is stronger than it was four years ago, that America is stronger than it was four years ago, that our relationships with our allies are stronger than they were four years ago.

Has this man no shame?

kgbsquirrel · « **Reply #14 on:** October 23, 2012, 01:12:09 AM »

Quote from: Monkeyleg on October 23, 2012, 01:06:35 AM

Has this man no shame?

What is no, Alex. I'll take Rhetorical questions for one thousand.

zxcvbob · « **Reply #15 on:** October 23, 2012, 01:15:10 AM »

Quote from: Monkeyleg on October 23, 2012, 01:06:35 AM

Has this man no shame?

He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize just for being black... and he accepted it (even though there's maybe a billion people in the world who are more qualified in that regard)

Frank Castle · « **Reply #16 on:** October 23, 2012, 01:37:04 AM »

I'm stuck on staffduty . What is this horses and bayonet thing about?

birdman · « **Reply #17 on:** October 23, 2012, 02:16:55 AM »

Quote from: AZtoy on October 23, 2012, 01:37:04 AM

I'm stuck on staffduty . What is this horses and bayonet thing about?

One is a knife, typically affixed to the front of a long arm, the other is a 4-legged placental mammal used for transportation or as a source of stationary motive power. Both are items our president thinks aren't used anymore in the military...ironic, only 3 days after the dedication of the horse soldiers statue at the 9/11 memorial in NYC.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #18 on:** October 23, 2012, 02:39:33 AM »

Did Bengahzi come up?

lupinus · « **Reply #19 on:** October 23, 2012, 05:40:40 AM »

First, actually, but was past over quickly.

Being that all Romney really had to do last night was not stumble or loose the debate, he comes out on top IMO even though the performance itself was more or less a draw. Romney did a reasonable job at making Obama look stupid and Obama did a good job of lying through his teeth.

HankB · « **Reply #20 on:** October 23, 2012, 06:35:16 AM »

I noticed on the split screen when Romney was talking, Obama was just glaring at him - from his expression, there was some real animosity.

Romney could have really skewered Obama on a number of issues . . . but I think he left Libya more or less alone since he figured Obama had some one-liners to throw out there. (Notice, though, how he worked in the words "hope" and "change" early on? Obama caught that, and was just glowering on the split screen; he was really ticked off.

)

Towards the end when Romney cataloged some of the failures of the Obama administration - debt increase, unemployment, etc. - Obama had no response or defense.

None. Can't defend the indefensible - and I think this damaged Obama.

Otherwise, Obama's delivery seemed a little smoother than Romney, who stammered a bit.

And as on other debates, Romney was joined by quite a crowd afterwards, and Obama . . . only by Michelle. The Obamas had to go join the Romney crew so they wouldn't look all alone up there.

I don't think Obama's performance will blunt Romney's momentum - and I hope Romney's TV commercials skewer Obama the way he chose not to on TV.

drewtam · « **Reply #21 on:** October 23, 2012, 07:01:38 AM »

I noticed Romney apology tour zing, and "america doesn't dictate to other nations, we set other nations free from dicatators". When Romney spelled it out, Obama had no response, he deflected to some story about visiting Israel.

I think Romney came off very well on this debate. He was very assuring that he does not want to get involved in another war in Syria.

I wish he would have gone after fast and furious.

drewtam · « **Reply #22 on:** October 23, 2012, 08:47:09 AM »

I really don't understand why Romney did not go after Obama hammer and tongs, there is so much material to work with to make a good critique of execution...

Britain gives piece of history as state gift, State Dept gives DVDs... that don't work in Europe
Amateur Hour!

Theatrical reset button with Russia, Russia rolls all over us in international politics in Syria and elsewhere
Amateur Hour!

Intentionally sending weapons to Mexican drug cartels, without cooperation of Mexican gov't, getting Mexican allies and Americans killed
Amateur Hour!

Going on an apology tour that weakens our allies and emboldens our enemies
Amateur Hour!

Letting the administration minions blame Benghazi on a youtube video for 2 weeks, when intelligence at the highest level knew within 24hrs that it was a pre-planned attack
Amateur Hour!

We've had amateur hour for 4yrs. When someone consistently can't get a critical job done right, its time to let them go.

This stuff basically writes itself.

bedlamite · « **Reply #23 on:** October 23, 2012, 08:50:34 AM »

Kingcreek · « **Reply #24 on:** October 23, 2012, 09:24:46 AM »

Pretty much a draw but Romney was presidential and mature, Obama looked like a lawyer.
I was disappointed fast and furious was a no show.

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