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Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« on: November 01, 2012, 03:41:23 PM »
And just when I thought a stake had been driven through Al Gore's heart on the whole Globular Woerming fakery comes this gem in my e-mail inbox.

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Hurricane Sandy

Frankenstorm Sandy: The Ghost of Climate Future

Hurricane Sandy

With global warming raising sea levels around the world and increasing the intensity of massive storms, Superstorm Sandy, which caused major damage and dozens of tragic deaths on the East Coast this week, is a mere hint of climate-related natural catastrophes to come.

The good news is that Sandy seems to be making an impact on public awareness of the need to get serious about combating the climate change juggernaut. There's widespread discussion online and in the media about the link between climate change and storms like Sandy, and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is even talking about building levees around Manhattan.

"The terrifying truth is that America faces a future full of Frankenstorms," said the Center for Biological Diversity's Climate Science Director Shaye Wolf. "Climate change is raising sea levels and making storms stronger. The threat to many of our coastal cities will grow by the year unless we get serious about fighting greenhouse gas pollution."

Read more about storms and climate change at ABC News.

 :facepalm: :facepalm:


The fact that more people have built in low laying areas has nothing to do with it.... :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 03:45:21 PM »
Yeah, Center for Biological Diversity -- there's a scientific horse I wanna hitch my wagon to. Even NOAA is calling it weather.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 05:10:04 PM »
Let's see -- 1500 years (or so) ago Leif Erickson and his band of Vikings settled an area called Greenland, and farmed it for several hundred years until "global cooling" forced them out. Now that the glaciers are receding in Greenland, it's because of global warming. Never mind that 1500 years ago the Vikings called it "Greenland" because it was, like ... green, ya know?

Closer to home, those with any institutional memory are comparing this hurricane to the one that savaged southern New England in 1938 (my late mother remembered that one), or one in 1888. So, give or take a few years, that's around a hundred years. Well, what do these idjits think the concept of "hundred year storm" means? It's not just words -- it means a storm so intense we're likely to see one only every hundred (or so) years.

Looks more or less on schedule to me.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 07:22:22 PM »
Let no tragedy go unused
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 07:28:35 PM »
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Let's see -- 1500 years (or so) ago Leif Erickson and his band of Vikings settled an area called Greenland, and farmed it for several hundred years until "global cooling" forced them out.

Are you saying then, that the population of Minnesota will decrease rapidly as the planet warms, and Vikings return to their native habitat?
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 08:16:20 PM »
I'm really disappointed with this Frankenstorm because the District of Criminals is still standing  =(

Maybe the next one will be better  >:D
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2012, 09:46:45 AM »
Quote from: Lee on November 01, 2012, 07:28:35 PM
Are you saying then, that the population of Minnesota will decrease rapidly as the planet warms, and Vikings return to their native habitat?

Dang! Now I gotta learn Norwegian. How many years do I have?

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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 08:56:42 PM »
Last I checked Al Gore did not have a degree nor ever study Meteorology.


Getting your weather/climate data from a failed politician is like getting your vaccination information from a former Playboy Playmate.  
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 09:03:31 PM »
Quote from: JonnyB on November 02, 2012, 09:46:45 AM

Dang! Now I gotta learn Norwegian. How many years do I have?

jb

Norwegian is pretty easy.  Give it six months, tops, in an immersion environment.

Took me three to learn conversational Danish.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2012, 12:03:32 AM »
Quote from: scout26 on November 02, 2012, 08:56:42 PM

Getting your weather/climate data from a failed politician is like getting your vaccination information from a former Playboy Playmate.  


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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2012, 12:31:39 AM »
this meme was being pushed hard on npr today.

it is a flipping religion, impenetrable by fact or logic.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2012, 12:51:59 AM »
Seriously Rooster?

I would say it's more of a cult: you can usually discuss things somewhat rationally with a devoutly religious person...
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2012, 12:58:48 AM »
Quote from: Strings on November 03, 2012, 12:51:59 AM
Seriously Rooster?

I would say it's more of a cult: you can usually discuss things somewhat rationally with a devoutly religious person...

Are you calling me a cultist?  :mad:
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2012, 02:18:13 AM »
*sigh*

No Fistful: even when we're violently disagreeing, we're still remaining civil (and continuing to discuss). Neither of us has put the other on "ignore", or started hurling insults, or suchlike.

I've dealt with actual cultists: globular warmening folks act like them. As soon as you contradict them in the least little detail, they lose it. Personal attacks, continual repetition of the same exact statement (after it's been truly refuted*, usually at increasing volume), and refusing to ever speak to you again are all common.

* I have yet to see either of us truly refute the other, as most of what we discuss are subjective issues. I'm talking about "scientifically provable" things.
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2012, 11:51:39 AM »
Self-deprecating humor is self-deprecating. (But apparently not that humorous.)
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2012, 12:17:26 PM »
Quote from: fistful on November 03, 2012, 11:51:39 AM
Self-deprecating humor is self-deprecating. (But apparently not that humorous.)

It would have been funny if you said it in Norwegian  ;)
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2012, 01:04:13 PM »
Would also have seemed more like humor without the frown emoticon. They're called "emoticon" for a reason...
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2012, 01:26:53 PM »
Sarcastic emoticon was sarcastic.  :P

I usually think emoticons make a statement less serious, frowny or not.  [ar15] [popcorn]
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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2012, 01:55:48 PM »
Quote from: fistful on November 03, 2012, 01:26:53 PM
I usually think emoticons make a statement less serious, frowny or not.  [ar15] [popcorn]

Because it's all about you.  ;/


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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2012, 12:18:03 AM »
Quote from: Ben on November 03, 2012, 01:55:48 PM

Because it's all about you.  ;/


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Re: Hurricane Sandy = Climate Change
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2012, 01:24:32 AM »
Quote from: ArfinGreebly on November 04, 2012, 12:18:03 AM
Only when there's blame involved.

So what you are saying is that globular warmulating cultism is Fistful's fault?
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2012, 08:33:06 AM »
Quote from: scout26 on November 02, 2012, 08:56:42 PM
Last I checked Al Gore did not have a degree nor ever study Meteorology.


Getting your weather/climate data from a failed politician is like getting your vaccination information from a former Playboy Playmate. 
Why? She's about as well versed in injections as Al Gore is in hot air.
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