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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #250 on: February 01, 2013, 03:18:23 PM »
Is Cerberus expecting sweeping gun restrictions that will ruin business?

Doubtful. The last 94 AWB only made things better for the gun market, waking it up, making people realize it might not "be there tomorrow" even in neutered ban forms.

The surge in the AR market is directly related to the ban, and it's expiration. Not in lieu of it. Pretty much a decade and a half-long lower grade version of the '08 and '12/'13 panics.

I'd guess that Cerberus figured that as a total of their holdings it's a pittance, and the suddenly un-PC nature of the holding wasn't worth the trouble. Also, depending on how well the brands were being run higher sales may not necessarily meant higher profits.
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #251 on: February 01, 2013, 03:31:12 PM »
Oh they were holding the evil Bushmaster company.
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #252 on: February 01, 2013, 04:27:12 PM »
the California school teachers retirement fund was heavy on cerbrus
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #253 on: February 01, 2013, 04:33:26 PM »
Production had already resumed by Miroku circa 2010.

I've handled new Model 94s at the local Cabelas. 

The prices are high, but the fit and finish blows away anything ever made in Connecticut. 

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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #254 on: February 01, 2013, 04:36:23 PM »
Cerberus gets much of its capital to invest from pension funds and the like.  A lot of that money is from State employee / Teacher funds.  These groups are mostly headed by very liberal management.  

They are the ones pressuring for Cerberus to get out of the weapons industries.

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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #255 on: February 01, 2013, 04:45:32 PM »
theres a fantasy out there that Bloomberg & Soros should buy the controlling interest and force any schemes required to end bad guns

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-30/benevolent-billionaires-should-buy-out-bushmaster.html
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #256 on: February 01, 2013, 05:18:01 PM »
Seems like all the chatter I hear is that this is pretty much DOA and the hard core anti's are very grumpy.
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #257 on: February 01, 2013, 05:20:25 PM »
Seems like all the chatter I hear is that this is pretty much DOA and the hard core anti's are very grumpy.

Likewise for the "occupy the NRA" idea that was briefly floated around. 
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #258 on: February 01, 2013, 05:27:56 PM »
theres a fantasy out there that Bloomberg & Soros should buy the controlling interest and force any schemes required to end bad guns

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-30/benevolent-billionaires-should-buy-out-bushmaster.html

Maybe I should RTFA, but do these people not realize there are 80 hundred AR manufacturers, and probably 40 hundred more would move in to replace any companies they "reformed"?
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #259 on: February 01, 2013, 06:02:36 PM »
Seems like all the chatter I hear is that this is pretty much DOA and the hard core anti's are very grumpy.

They should be grumpy. If it's DOA, their entire claim to fame will be putting a couple million more ARs "on the street".  =D
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #260 on: February 01, 2013, 06:32:39 PM »
I still maintain that any politician, lobbyist or other such slime who tries to restrict the right of ordinary folks to own effective weapons for sport, defense, hunting, collecting or "just because, bitch" (my favorite reason/answer), should be legally barred from having any sort of security detail, armed or unarmed. They can, however, be issued with a free baseball bat, which is probably more than they deserve considering they would probably like to ban anything that is even remotely useable as a weapon, but, I'm feeling kind and generous at the moment...
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #261 on: February 02, 2013, 12:04:48 AM »
I'm beginning to SERIOUSLY wonder if Di Fi owns stock in Bushmaster, or something.

Every time they float one of these ideas, people go on a buying spree. I know if *I* had stock in the company, I would try everything I could to get people to buy the product...
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #262 on: February 02, 2013, 12:56:59 AM »
I'm beginning to SERIOUSLY wonder if Di Fi owns stock in Bushmaster, or something.

Every time they float one of these ideas, people go on a buying spree. I know if *I* had stock in the company, I would try everything I could to get people to buy the product...

Rather Atlas Shrugged-esque huh? Bunch of worthless self-important politicians sitting around bitching about capitalists while simultaneously makings oodles of money off those same capitalists. The fact that congress specifically exempted themselves from insider trading laws really makes me wish someone would pull a D'Anconia style event on them.

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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #263 on: February 02, 2013, 01:23:30 AM »
I still maintain that any politician, lobbyist or other such slime who tries to restrict the right of ordinary folks to own effective weapons for sport, defense, hunting, collecting or "just because, bitch" (my favorite reason/answer), should be legally barred from having any sort of security detail, armed or unarmed. They can, however, be issued with a free baseball bat, which is probably more than they deserve considering they would probably like to ban anything that is even remotely useable as a weapon, but, I'm feeling kind and generous at the moment...

Nah, just give 'em an Obama phone so they can call 911.
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #264 on: February 02, 2013, 02:17:21 AM »
Give them a phone to call Obama, and Obama will come over with his skeet gun to scare off the bad guys.

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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #265 on: February 02, 2013, 09:01:06 AM »
Give them a phone to call Obama, and Obama will come over with his skeet gun to scare off the bad guys.

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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #266 on: February 02, 2013, 10:35:56 AM »
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #267 on: February 02, 2013, 10:45:46 AM »
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #268 on: February 02, 2013, 03:12:16 PM »
I'm beginning to SERIOUSLY wonder if Di Fi owns stock in Bushmaster, or something.

Every time they float one of these ideas, people go on a buying spree. I know if *I* had stock in the company, I would try everything I could to get people to buy the product...

Just proves the consistent link between irrational/emotional progressive ideology and unintended consequences in the real world.

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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #269 on: February 02, 2013, 03:24:41 PM »
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #270 on: February 02, 2013, 03:33:07 PM »
Massa say no photoshoppy on that one.

What exactly is 0 being made to appear to shoot in that pic? 
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #271 on: February 02, 2013, 03:37:58 PM »
Apparently there is a tradional competition between the Marine guards at Camp David and the POTUS.  Those who attended stated that Obama was there and gone in under 5 minutes.  (Didn't even shoot a full round.)   Like he could not get out of there fast enough.

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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #272 on: February 02, 2013, 04:26:52 PM »
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #273 on: February 02, 2013, 04:42:08 PM »
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Re: Senator Feinstein to introduce a new AWB
« Reply #274 on: February 02, 2013, 04:55:21 PM »
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