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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2013, 11:41:50 AM »
hes a flawed human.  i can't say much i am also flawed. just not in those particular ways.  not sure about his draft story.  ted mighta been bs'ing. i've known other guys to fib about things like that. at that time it was a matter of great shame not to serve for many. he might prefer his story to some other truth
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2013, 11:47:29 AM »


Well, they don't call him the Motorcity Mad Man for nothing.

CSD forgot the mess with the 17 year old Hawian girl.

But I think Uncle Ted's biggest issue is that he just doesn't seem to have a filter between his brain and his mouth. The results can be funny, but not very wise.
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2013, 11:49:36 AM »


Well, they don't call him the Motorcity Mad Man for nothing.

CSD forgot the mess with the 17 year old Hawian girl.

But I think Uncle Ted's biggest issue is that he just doesn't seem to have a filter between his brain and his mouth. The results can be funny, but not very wise.

i didn't forget  i just was 32 and dating a 19 year old so i kept quiet.  i had her folks permission but did not get myself declared her guardian
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2013, 11:58:01 AM »
I don't care much about the 17 year old (Isn't the age of consent in hawaii like 15?), and I don't care much about the bear.

One thing i can't abide is a draft dodger.
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2013, 11:58:41 AM »
i didn't forget  i just was 32 and dating a 19 year old so i kept quiet.  i had her folks permission but did not get myself declared her guardian

Well, when it comes to age, sometimes three years really does make a diffrence.
19 doesn't need a gardian (or permission to marry, for that matter)
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2013, 12:22:19 PM »
But I think Uncle Ted's biggest issue is that he just doesn't seem to have a filter between his brain and his mouth. The results can be funny, but not very wise.


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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2013, 12:26:50 PM »

Well put.

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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2013, 12:27:56 PM »
It is irritating to me having to redirect the discussion away from Ted's antics when discussing the human right of self defense and the second amendment with anti's or the uninformed.

I appreciate his efforts on the subject and overall it outweighs the negatives most likely.

He just unfortunately is a loose cannon and somewhat divisive. He is no role model or someone to emulate. He comes off as more of a media caricature than actual person and that can distract from the seriousness of the issue.  
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2013, 12:45:42 PM »
As someone mentioned above, I think Nugent works very well in head to heads with people like Piers Morgan or Chris Mathews, or even, in the right setting, "telling it like it is" Nugent style regarding politicians like Pelosi and Schumer. There are some venues where telling someone to "kiss my ass" is sometimes the right thing to do, such as in an interview with Piers Morgan. I think he also works well firing up gunowners, like at NRA events.

I don't think he works well at events like press conferences, or say, post State of the Union interviews. My one fear is that being in the audience at the address, that he shouts something out while Obama is speaking. Would definitely not look good.

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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2013, 01:03:46 PM »
Ted is "a brand" first and foremost and supporting gun ownership is part of that brand.

Hopefully he will keep the cause in mind in instances where what is best for Ted "The Brand" is not necessarily best for the cause.   
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2013, 01:34:12 PM »
Ted is "a brand" first and foremost and supporting gun ownership is part of that brand.

Hopefully he will keep the cause in mind in instances where what is best for Ted "The Brand" is not necessarily best for the cause.   

This. As an entertainer, his behavior is tied to a persona. As an individual, he may advocate a view I agree with, but the wacky persona dilutes or misdirects it. In that respect he is a potential liability to serious argument.
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2013, 02:57:49 PM »
Ted's negatives or positives aside, what is the point of attending a speech by the leader of the occupation forces?
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2013, 03:25:21 PM »
Keep your enemies closer.
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2013, 04:43:54 PM »
Recon?

Maintaining a presence?

Visual reminder that he didn't get 100% of the electoral or popular vote?
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2013, 07:21:57 PM »
I may actually watch or listen to this one.
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2013, 08:52:47 PM »
I may actually watch or listen to this one.
No way in hell I'm gonna watch this in real time.  I'd rather read the postmortems.  Not as likely to  [barf] or throw something at the teevee.
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2013, 09:02:43 PM »
I don't think he works well at events like press conferences, or say, post State of the Union interviews. My one fear is that being in the audience at the address, that he shouts something out while Obama is speaking. Would definitely not look good.

I don't know, might liven things up a bit. I think we treat these occasions with a sense of gravity and respect that they simply aren't due. The SOTUA tends to be fairly meaningless, and at this point is nothing but a giant media circus, except all the clowns are wearing three-piece suits. I think it'd be vastly better if the crowd was more...interactive.  >:D
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2013, 09:46:59 PM »
No way in hell I'm gonna watch this in real time.  I'd rather read the postmortems.  Not as likely to  [barf] or throw something at the teevee.

I kind of wanted to see what he would say about gun control.

I just turned it off.  It's mostly, uhh, "hooey."  Something that my Dad the dairy and pig farmer would say gave off the "Smell of money".

And Preacherman's still depressing.

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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2013, 10:05:34 PM »
Nuge is great when firing up the pro-RKBA base.  Not as great convincing fence-sitters.
I keep hearing about them but I aint met a whole lot of fence sitters. Most everybody I run into has strong feelings one way or the other.
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2013, 10:11:15 PM »
And cue Obama tap-dancing the body of a dead girl....   :mad:

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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2013, 11:10:44 PM »
I listened for about 15 minutes, in which I figure he came up with about a half trillion dollars worth of "investments". I then gave up and just let the DVR buffer run and came back to fast forward to the gun control part, which was easy to spot because you knew he was gonna have Giffords there. He managed to make himself look like a fire and brimstone preacher on his call for a vote.
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2013, 11:28:34 PM »
Why do I get a headache by watching this dishonest drivel? Maybe it's due to the hyper concentrated human refuse and their incessant yes-man clapping... the people responsible for executing the ruin of a Nation all packed in the same room... damn.
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Re: Nugent to Attend State of the Union Address
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2013, 08:49:43 AM »
. . . He managed to make himself look like a fire and brimstone preacher on his call for a vote.
He reminded me more of some banana republic dictator or president-for-life with a personality cult . . .
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