A part of the Colorado gun law I didn't know about

[Monkeyleg]

I was talking to the owner of a Colorado gun store today, and he was complaining about the gun bills that look poised to pass.

One provision I wasn't aware of is included in the universal background check (otherwise known as banning private sales). Gun dealers are prohibited from charging more than $10 to gun buyers for the background checks. This store now charges $40, as the owner has calculated his costs for employee time, etc. The state is also going to charge gun dealers a fee for running the background checks, and it's possible the fee could exceed $10.

This dealer is talking about not doing any transfers at all, just selling guns.

What a bunch of morons they have in the state capitol.

[cordex]

This dealer is talking about not doing any transfers at all, just selling guns.

What a bunch of morons they have in the state capitol.

Think this was the intended effect?

[Blakenzy]

All gun laws are about long term damage to the gun culture. Over night confiscation doesn't happen, mostly.... It's a war of attrition and Colorado just found a way of killing off a certain portion of the firearms market.

[kgbsquirrel]

Think this was the intended effect?

Ya think.

[Harold Tuttle]

so that "fake" brady 10 year plan is ringing true.

[HankB]

If they can charge a fee to exercise a constitutional right, why don't they just go ahead and impose a poll tax as well?

[Monkeyleg]

If they can charge a fee to exercise a constitutional right, why don't they just go ahead and impose a poll tax as well?

Because a poll tax would adversely affect the poor, who are the constituency these politicians count on every election.

An armed, mobile and educated population is almost impossible to control. That's why they want to eliminate gun ownership, why they've replaced rational thought with politically correct BS in schools, and why they keep pushing high-speed rail and other forms of public transit.

[slingshot]

Did not know about universal background check (UBC) requirement in CO.

I suspect UBCs are nearly a done deal at the Federal level after all the dust settles.  I don't know in what form UBC have made it out of the committee and move to the Senate floor.  The 2013 AWB will probably go down to defeat.  But a bill requiring UBCs is reported to have broad support.  From whom is my question?  The Washington Post reports something like 90% favoring UBCs for nearly all firearm transfers.

The easy thing for the government to do is just require that UBCs shall be performed for nearly all firearm transfers and leave the pricing to the FFL dealers.  It is one thing to pay say $40 when you transfer a gun from a mail order source, but entirely a different matter for personal transfers/sales.  But again, using FFL dealers is the easy call.  The cost will hurt for private sales and will in my opinion "infringe".  The law is nearly un-enforceable either way if citizens choose not to use the UBC except in states that require FOID cards and other permits to purchase a firearm.

[zahc]

Unenforceable, yes, but it will still kill private party sales completely. Even in states with no FOID-like registration, nobody will sell a gun at say a garage sale to a private buyer, for fear of government agents and sting ops, and later liability. Nobody.

[Scout26]

The NRA is against it, despite what NBC is reporting...

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nraila.org%2Fnews-issues%2Fnews-from-nra-ila%2Fstatement-from-chris-w-cox-nra-ila-executive-director-regarding-inaccurate-nbc-story-alleging-that-nra-wont-oppose-background-check-bill.aspx&h=nAQECvJW_AQEc1enVpSh6I0q6e6_TGHJl4ay7DxkNeuGC0w&s=1

[Ron]

Doesn't some form of UBC have to be passed out of the house for it to be law? I've heard nothing on that at all and suspect there aren't enough votes for it to pass.

Especially if the NRA holds the line and gives house members some cover. If the NRA folds the House folds.

[Scout26]

Plus Harry Reid has to allow a vote on the floor of the Senate.

Ain't Happening.

[just Warren]

Unenforceable, yes, but it will still kill private party sales completely. Even in states with no FOID-like registration, nobody will sell a gun at say a garage sale to a private buyer, for fear of government agents and sting ops, and later liability. Nobody.

Yes they will. All this will do is raise the value of physical resistance to arrest.

[brimic]

An armed, mobile and educated population is almost impossible to control. That's why they want to eliminate gun ownership,

Wait, time out... stop right there.
If were are all still pretty well armed, we know history pretty well, and we know that the 2nd amendment isn't about hunting or shooting skeet at Camp David, then why do we even consider following unconstitutional and or immoral laws set by petty tyrants?

[Tallpine]

Plus Harry Reid has to allow a vote on the floor of the Senate.

Ain't Happening.

Colorado, not USSA 

[slingshot]

We have all been trained since childbirth to follow the law regardless of what the law is.  That is the American way.  But at some point, people (majority) may start resisting the law and all of a sudden the whole thing caves because the respect is lost.  I dread that day.

I believe Feinstein's AWB will not come close to passing.  Then the powers will begin chopping out portions of it in an attempt to salvage more gun control measures that may have more support like UBCs.

[brimic]

We have all been trained since childbirth to follow the law regardless of what the law is.  That is the American way.  But at some point, people (majority) may start resisting the law and all of a sudden the whole thing caves because the respect is lost.  I dread that day.

Yes, exactly.
Some of the dems are throwing lit matches at a powder keg, its only a matter of time before all hell breaks loose.