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A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« on: April 08, 2013, 02:36:10 PM »
I spent way too much time this weekend trying to get equipment ready to go. Much of that time was spent trying to remove mouse nests from air cleaners, manifolds, and inaccessible nooks and crannies on one tractor, one riding lawn mower, a walk behind tiller, and another push mower. I haven't even uncovered the fishing boat yet. I used compressed air, shop vac, wire, and even forceps to pull their nesting material out of places it shouldn't be. I've had some in the past but never this much, although I had to rewire all of the lights on an older tractor once.
All of this hardware is kept in my barn. The barn is also winter shelter provided by me for 3 cats. I feed them enough to keep them alive but not so much that they give up hunting I thought. I give them water, and love, and wormer or antibiotic if they need it. They manage to murder songbirds at the feeders. I know they catch some mice but obviously not enough. I have distributed poison bait throughout and I expect that will help. Thankfully the mice did not eat the electrical wiring out of anything this time.
The cats' annual performance review is coming up and one is obviously pregnant. Anybody got any alternative mouse control methods? Because I'm not gonna keep feeding cats if they aren't doing the one and only job they're tasked with. I know .22 rimfire is scarce but I've got some on hand and looking for any other options.
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 02:44:22 PM »
snakes. Lots of snakes.

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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 03:03:09 PM »
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Because I'm not gonna keep feeding cats if they aren't doing the one and only job they're tasked with.

Indeed, it sounds like you may be feeding your mousers too much. Try backing off the rations a bit.
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 04:00:44 PM »
I don't mind snakes and I see quite a few bull snakes in the summer but not so many during the Midwest winter when the mice are the busiest.
I am definitely reducing the cat rations.
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 04:20:52 PM »
Can you recruit a barn owl or other raptors?

Yes, less food for kitty cats.

Maybe a ferret?
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 07:10:37 PM »
Start here https://adaptivecurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2013/03/15/cat-update/ and work backwards.

No, you will not hear Ringo saying "John is the devil" or find tomorrow's winning lottery numbers.  Not even how to make lead out of gold.  (Or was it the other way?)

"Replacement cat."  That's all I'm going to say.

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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2013, 07:43:40 PM »
Useless creatures.

I'm thinking that I should just get a jack russel and train it for what it was intended.
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2013, 07:50:53 PM »
Original Bounce Dryer sheets work pretty good at keeping mice out of places they are not welcome. Has to be Bounce brand, not a generic and need to be replaced every month or so. This does a good job at keeping mice out of our camper in the winter months. You have to use a lot of them.
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2013, 07:52:31 PM »
You can't serve papers on a rat  ;)
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2013, 09:13:51 PM »
Nothing more worthless than a cat that won't hunt mice.
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2013, 10:11:11 PM »
snakes. Lots of snakes.



That actually works pretty good. I have a couple of rubber snakes out in the shop that keeps down some of the vermin. I had problems with birds building nests in the fairing of my bike.

I also have shopcat. Shopcat is a stray that took up residence in my shop (pole barn) more than a year ago. I don't know the gender of the cat, mostly becasue I can't get that close to it and partly because I don't care. I have been able to see that it has a collar of some type, possibly a flea collar but again I haven't gotten that close. Shopcat seems to de a pretty good job of keeping down vermin. I haven't fed it or anything else and so long as it doesn't cause me any problems (s)he can stay.
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 12:22:06 AM »
You can't serve papers on a rat  ;)

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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2013, 07:00:18 AM »
Useless creatures.

....

How can you say that about cats?

Each one is a Chinese dinner for two, and half a pair of mittens/slippers.

See?  Several (OK, two) uses for cats.

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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2013, 11:29:13 AM »
Useless creatures.

I'm thinking that I should just get a jack russel and train it for what it was intended.
How can you say that about cats?

Each one is a Chinese dinner for two, and half a pair of mittens/slippers.

See?  Several (OK, two) uses for cats.

stay safe.

Doesn't anyone here have something nice to say  about cats?  Or atleast something that doesn't involve eating them . . . .  [tinfoil]
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2013, 11:31:03 AM »
Doesn't anyone here have something nice to say  about cats?  Or atleast something that doesn't involve eating them . . . .  [tinfoil]

Yeah I do. My cat's pretty *expletive deleted*ing awesome. 10 pounds of little lion. Doesn't puke or spray. Answers to Cat Bastard.
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2013, 03:07:44 PM »
Doesn't anyone here have something nice to say  about cats?  Or atleast something that doesn't involve eating them . . . .  [tinfoil]

Dogs have owners. Cats have staff.

I love my cats. I really do. And I think, maybe, sorta, that they love me too.
However, they are cats. Their uppity ways and easily offended superiority complex invites smack talk and ridicule.
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2013, 03:53:10 PM »
Doesn't anyone here have something nice to say  about cats?  Or atleast something that doesn't involve eating them . . . .  [tinfoil]

Slippers have nothing to do with eating cats.  Nor do mittens.

There, see?  Two things already mentioned that have nothing to do with eating cats.

Now, you wan' whi' rhi or flied lice?

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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2013, 09:35:57 PM »
I'm gonna name my next kitty after TommyGunn.  =)
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2013, 09:44:10 PM »
My cats' job is to sleep on my chest, head, and/or face at night  :lol:

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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2013, 09:56:18 PM »
No mice around my house.  I have a family of screech owls that live in the  yard.  I make sure the bird feeders are well tended to sucker the mice to come to dinner for the owls.....chris3

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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2013, 11:21:11 PM »
Doesn't anyone here have something nice to say  about cats?  Or atleast something that doesn't involve eating them . . . .  [tinfoil]
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2013, 12:17:42 AM »
Victor electric traps.  Polish the plates before you put them out.  Killed an entire family of rats with exactly one trap two years ago.  Live rats will crawl over their departed siblings to get into the thing.  It's really disturbing until I remember that they're rats, so *expletive deleted*ck 'em.

Beware that the rat-sized ones will also kill squirrels.  On the plus side, they're pre-cooked when you find them in the morning, so all you have to do is make toast.

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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2013, 12:24:10 AM »
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Beware that the rat-sized ones will also kill squirrels

And that's a benefit, not a problem!

*expletive deleted*ing squirrels. Just rats with fluffy tails and better PR...

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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2013, 12:28:58 AM »
I'm gonna name my next kitty after TommyGunn.  =)
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Re: A rant against mice... And cats that don't eat them
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2013, 10:42:51 AM »
We have the same problem. Mice in the engine compartment, etc. I use standard victor mouse traps. The hassle with traps is constantly re-baiting them- ideally you want to grab the trap, toss the dead mouse, and re-set with no extra work.  So far, the best method I have come up with is to glue a small piece of pecan or almond to the trip lever-I pry open the metal loop, put some white glue there, stick ib the nut, and very lightly crimp it.  I do a bunch at a time, and leave them in likely areas, and also inside the engine compartments etc.  They work well normally, the bait is left uneaten.

 My garage is pretty tight, and the cats stay in there during the night- no mice there.....Your barn cats may simply be out numbered-
 
 The electric trap sounds really appealing-- !