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The Road
« on: September 07, 2013, 02:54:35 PM »
"The Road" just got put on Netflix Instant so I rewatched it last night. Holy hell, I forgot just how dark it is. A good reminder movie though, that SHTF ain't fun.
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Re: The Road
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2013, 03:18:52 PM »
Yup. 

Pro-Tip: Don't read that book on a tree stand during the middle of winter, just after a heavy snow.  You'll want to open a vein (down, not across).

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Re: The Road
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2013, 03:23:19 PM »
I thought The Road was depressing so I read Child of God. WTF Cormac?
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Re: The Road
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2013, 04:04:37 PM »
When they were first available for rental, I watched The Road and Book of Eli back-to-back.  Book of Eli is almost a comedy by comparison.
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Re: The Road
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2013, 04:12:57 PM »
When they were first available for rental, I watched The Road and Book of Eli back-to-back.  Book of Eli is almost a comedy by comparison.


"Book of Eli" is one of my favorite films, but you're right on the comparison.
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Re: The Road
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2013, 04:44:26 PM »
The Road is indeed dark. But then, I like dark movies. I always wonder how the world came to be in such a state (in the movie) though I suspect something such as the Yellowstone caldera going all splodey.

Yup. 

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Did the book tell about the cause of the crappy weather and conditions?
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Re: The Road
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2013, 05:02:08 PM »
The Road is indeed dark. But then, I like dark movies. I always wonder how the world came to be in such a state (in the movie) though I suspect something such as the Yellowstone caldera going all splodey.

Did the book tell about the cause of the crappy weather and conditions?

No, because the book is one big long metaphor for McCarthy being relatively old, and having a young son at an old age and knowing he'll die of old age before his son reaches adulthood. So the actual "whys and hows" aren't important.

However, when McCarthy was pressed in interviews and such, he did have vague ideas the disaster was a nuclear war, or at least "man made" somehow. However, even with some reasonable suspension of disbelief, that's bunk. Your idea of the Yellowstone caldera going up, or perhaps asteroid/comet impact is more in line with what it would take to create the conditions in "The Road".

Full scale nuclear war, even at the peak of deployable/deliverable warheads in the 1980's, and if distributed to create maximum casualties and infrastructure collapse worldwide, and as much fire, smoke, and ash as possible, rather than an attempt at more rational tactical or strategic goals, there'd be a LOT of empty wild areas left relatively untouched. And climatalogical models refined since Carl Sagan proposed "Nuclear Winter", from evidence such as volcanic eruptions, and even the oil fires of the first Iraq war, show the particulate cooling from a 100% nuclear exchange wouldn't make much difference in world climate.

And the land would bounce back very quickly, much like how the animal populations of the Cheyrnobyl exclusion zone, except for some hot spots, the cessation of human activity, agriculture, roads etc. has been more beneficial than the radiation harmful.

I think they've also found that most animals in nature don't normally live long enough to suffer the effects of long term low-dose exposure.
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Re: The Road
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2013, 05:31:30 PM »
I think they've also found that most animals in nature don't normally live long enough to suffer the effects of long term low-dose exposure.

So, you're saying that if we humanoids wanted to be more natural about our lives, we'd die sooner so we wouldn't have to worry so much about dying later?
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Re: The Road
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2013, 05:38:10 PM »
So, you're saying that if we humanoids wanted to be more natural about our lives, we'd die sooner so we wouldn't have to worry so much about dying later?

Nah, we've been using technology, even if it's just sticks and rocks to prolong our survival, we operate on a different paradigm. Although concentrations of certain isotopes up the food chain in some apex predators and certain plants is something to watch out for...
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Re: The Road
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2013, 09:42:20 PM »

I think they've also found that most animals in nature don't normally live long enough to suffer the effects of long term low-dose exposure.

Is it also the difference between linear no threshold assumptions vs latest evidence that that model might be bunk?
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Re: The Road
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2013, 02:01:40 PM »
However, when McCarthy was pressed in interviews and such, he did have vague ideas the disaster was a nuclear war, or at least "man made" somehow. However, even with some reasonable suspension of disbelief, that's bunk. Your idea of the Yellowstone caldera going up, or perhaps asteroid/comet impact is more in line with what it would take to create the conditions in "The Road".

Could also be caused by a gamma ray burst.
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Re: The Road
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2013, 11:23:45 AM »
His central theme seems to be that given the right conditions many people will revert to being like animals or worse, and that our species has not really changed. Each generation thinks they have evolved to a higher level- then along comes a Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Taliban, etc.etc.  He makes a valid, yet depressing point.

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Re: The Road
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2013, 11:45:23 AM »
His central theme seems to be that given the right conditions many people will revert to being like animals or worse, and that our species has not really changed. Each generation thinks they have evolved to a higher level- then along comes a Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Taliban, etc.etc.  He makes a valid, yet depressing point.

etc Obama etc etc ....   =(
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Re: The Road
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2013, 08:22:57 AM »
"The Road" just got put on Netflix Instant so I rewatched it last night. Holy hell, I forgot just how dark it is. A good reminder movie though, that SHTF ain't fun.

I hated it enough to start writing my own books. Bleak post-modern nothingness, blah blah. There is a reason why in the parody APS version, they both get shot in the leg and marked for the cannibals.
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Re: The Road
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2013, 10:01:46 AM »
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Re: The Road
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2013, 03:13:01 PM »
I hated it enough to start writing my own books. Bleak post-modern nothingness, blah blah. There is a reason why in the parody APS version, they both get shot in the leg and marked for the cannibals.

Did you ever publish anything Rev? I'm still waiting for a chance to give you money for a book. :)
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Re: The Road
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2013, 04:04:19 PM »
I hated it enough to start writing my own books. Bleak post-modern nothingness, blah blah. There is a reason why in the parody APS version, they both get shot in the leg and marked for the cannibals.

I always thought the character of the Boy was sweet and wonderful in his innocence even in the face of life post Armageddon.

So I'm thinking you wouldn't eat a great kid like that all at once.  Less of a flight risk if he can only hop too.
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Re: The Road
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2013, 04:16:02 PM »
Did you ever publish anything Rev? I'm still waiting for a chance to give you money for a book. :)

Turning it into three books.

First book is about the apocalypse and surviving it. It's based off a conversation between birdman and myself that we had during a blizzard in Wisconsin. Second book is Tales from the Apocalypse. Third is mentally set but am not disclosing, but fairly logical. Probably bad form, but I'm writing all three at the same time.
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Re: The Road
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2013, 04:48:29 PM »
Turning it into three books.

First book is about the apocalypse and surviving it. It's based off a conversation between birdman and myself that we had during a blizzard in Wisconsin. Second book is Tales from the Apocalypse. Third is mentally set but am not disclosing, but fairly logical. Probably bad form, but I'm writing all three at the same time.

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Re: The Road
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2013, 04:50:09 PM »
Oh, and would this be a movie appropriate for 12-13 year old boys on Halloween?   (He's having a sleep over.)
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Get up to the roundhouse on the cliff-top standing.
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Bless the women and children who firm our hands.
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Re: The Road
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2013, 05:33:13 PM »
Oh, and would this be a movie appropriate for 12-13 year old boys on Halloween?   (He's having a sleep over.)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2013, 06:05:44 PM »
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/parentalguide?ref_=tt_stry_pg

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Re: The Road
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2013, 07:41:42 PM »
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Re: The Road
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2013, 08:37:49 PM »
Who's Tam?

That's a famous Fry quote from Futurama.
http://youtu.be/lQISgWx_-Yw


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Re: The Road
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2013, 11:50:38 AM »
Who's Tam?

Did he say that?

Did you really say that?

Are kidding me ??

Are your farking kidding me ??

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Bring me my Broadsword and a clear understanding.
Get up to the roundhouse on the cliff-top standing.
Take women and children and bed them down.
Bless with a hard heart those that stand with me.
Bless the women and children who firm our hands.
Put our backs to the north wind.
Hold fast by the river.
Sweet memories to drive us on,
for the motherland.