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LAK

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« on: August 27, 2006, 03:51:51 AM »
... and look what comes out of the woodwork; "Homeland Security" and the "Pan-American Health Organization." ......

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060827/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/tropical_weather_58;_ylt=Ahp2z4ppufUh6b2Wy1iBc1Zg.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw

Ernesto strengthens, aims at Jamaica By HOWARD CAMPBELL, Associated Press Writer
Sat Aug 26, 8:21 PM ET

KINGSTON, Jamaica - Gathering strength over the central Caribbean, Tropical Storm Ernesto steamed toward Jamaica Saturday and threatened to enter the Gulf of Mexico within days as the first hurricane of the 2006 Atlantic season.

In Washington, the Department of Homeland Security said Ernesto could grow into a Category 3 hurricane by Thursday and could menace New Orleans, ravaged by Category 3 Hurricane Katrina last year. Katrina struck the city a year ago Tuesday.

Ernesto "has the makings of becoming the first major storm of the season," said Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke.

Ernesto, packing 60 mph winds, could be near hurricane strength by Sunday. Still, it was too soon to predict whether it would hit the United States, said Michael Brennan, a meteorologist with the U.S.        National Hurricane Center in Miami.

"People should pay attention, especially people on the Gulf coast," Brennan said. "We're in the middle of hurricane season and it's a good time for people to update their hurricane plans."

Jamaica and the Cayman Islands, which both stood in the storm's path, issued hurricane watches, meaning severe conditions including winds of at least 74 mph were possible over the next 48 hours. Cuba also issued a hurricane watch for provinces in the country's southeast.

Tropical storm warnings also were in effect for Jamaica and Haiti's southern coast. The hurricane center advised people in Mexico, the southeastern Gulf of Mexico and the Florida Keys to monitor the storm.

Ernesto was on a course that would bring it over Jamaica by Sunday afternoon, dumping 4 to 8 inches of rain on the island with up to a foot possible in some areas, the hurricane center said. Fisherman were warned to return to shore  with tides of up to 3 feet above normal expected  and Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller met with disaster agencies to prepare.

Jamaica issued advisories by radio and television for residents in low-lying areas across the island to be prepared to evacuate if necessary. Ernesto was expected to strengthen within the next 24 hours and could be near hurricane strength as it nears Jamaica and western Haiti on Sunday, the hurricane center said.

"We are concerned about the flood risk to parishes that were affected in the past, so that is the major concern right now," said Nadine Newsome, a spokeswoman for the Office of Disaster Preparedness and Emergency Management.

At 5 p.m. Saturday, Ernesto had maximum sustained winds near 60 mph with higher gusts. The fifth named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season was centered 190 miles south-southeast of Port-au-Prince, Haiti, and 375 miles east-southeast of Kingston, Jamaica.

The storm was moving west-northwest near 13 mph. It was expected to bring 4 to 8 inches of rain to Haiti and the Dominican Republic, which share the island of Hispaniola, with up to a foot possible in some areas, the hurricane center said. Tides of up to 3 feet above normal were expected in Haiti.

As heavy showers hit Kingston on Saturday afternoon, traffic jams formed with motorists trying to reach stores. People waited in long lines at supermarkets, filling grocery cars with canned goods, batteries and candles.

"We have been doing brisk business since late afternoon" Friday, said Cynthia Martin, a supermarket supervisor.

Taxi driver Patrick Wallace, 55, said he was hoping for the best as he left a supermarket laden with canned goods.

"It's nature and we can't stop it from taking its course," he said. "I'm hoping if it hits, it will be in the morning so we can see what's going on."

Despite sunny skies in the British territory of the Caymans, people flooded gas stations, hardware stores and supermarkets, as well as formed big lines to withdraw money from cash machines. Businesses also boarded up.

Damien Dilbert, owner of Big Daddy's liquor store on Seven Mile Beach just outside the capital, said the store has been "crazy busy."

"Every time there is always a hurricane, people have their hurricane parties and buy up the liquor," he said.

Tourists appeared to take word of the impending weather in stride.

Debbie Curigliano, of Bridgeville, Pennsylvania, said she and her husband would be relaxing and drinking during the storm. They were staying at a resort in Seven Mile Beach.

"I am sure they (the hotel) have been through this before, so I am going to put all my faith in the hotel and I am sure they will guide me right through it," she said.

In Haiti, emergency officials went on local radio to warn people living in flimsy shantytowns on the southern coast to seek shelter in schools and churches.

"These people could be in great danger," said Adel Nazaire, a coordinator with Haiti's civil protection agency. "Flooding is the biggest concern because a lot of residents live along the rivers and the sea."

Elisabeth Verluyten, a disaster management official with the Pan-American Health Organization in Port-au-Prince, said raising awareness is vital as many people won't leave their homes "because they're afraid of losing the little they have."

The impoverished Caribbean nation is 90 percent deforested, increasing vulnerability to deadly flooding and mudslides.

Fears that the storm could damage offshore energy facilities in the Gulf of Mexico sent oil and natural-gas prices higher. Oil producers operating in the Gulf said they were prepared to evacuate nonessential personnel if needed.

Meanwhile, former Tropical Storm Debby, now a depression with maximum winds of 30 mph, was expected to stay over the open Atlantic, posing only a threat to ships. At 5 p.m., the center of the storm was about 1,410 miles west-southwest of the Azores.

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Associated Press Writer Stevenson Jacobs contributed to this report from Port-au-Prince, Haiti, Jay Ehrhart from Georgetown, Grand Cayman, and Mike Melia contributed from San Juan, Puerto Rico.

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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2006, 04:15:25 AM »
Makes sense for the PanAm Health folks to be involved.  Potable water is always a severe problem in the aftermath.  Potential for typhoid...

Dunno what homeland Security has to do with anything.  Photo-op camera hogging, I guess.  Or, were they given FEMA?  Hard to keep up with all the juggling of alphabetters...

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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2006, 05:21:29 AM »
Hah, I'll bet they can't keep up with it either. Imagine waking up every day and thinking, "Who the hell am I today?" shocked

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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2006, 05:24:32 AM »
Maybe they're planning on prohibiting it from coming ashore since it's carrying liquids?
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2006, 05:47:21 AM »
Quote from: Art Eatman
Makes sense for the PanAm Health folks to be involved.  Potable water is always a severe problem in the aftermath.  Potential for typhoid...
Agree with you here.

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Dunno what homeland Security has to do with anything.  Photo-op camera hogging, I guess.  Or, were they given FEMA?  Hard to keep up with all the juggling of alphabetters...
I was listening to a NPR* interview where it was made clear that Homeland Security has indeed absorbed FEMA.  The interviewer asked the directer multiple times if there was too much for one agency to handle.

What I got that they're in charge of:
Airport Security
Port Security
Border Security
Terrorist attack, prevention, recovery and aid thereof.
Natural disaster, to include hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, blizzards, etc...
Biological epidemics of whatever nature


*As bad as it can be, it's still better than clearchannel stations' morning talk radio.

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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2006, 06:31:20 AM »
Good idea Stickjockey, I don't know WHY they haven't thought of that yet. Must be too busy...
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2006, 09:11:55 AM »
Amazing, the number of things that falls under Homeland Security's aegis these days.  And, no doubt, sure to increase in the furure.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2006, 04:29:05 AM »
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Makes sense for the PanAm Health folks to be involved.  Potable water is always a severe problem in the aftermath.  Potential for typhoid...
I do not think it does. We have health folk of our own, and I presume so do Mexico, Guatamala, Jamaica, Trinidad and the other nations in this hemisphere.

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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2006, 07:42:09 AM »
LAK, no, a lot of the Caribbean nations don't have enough GDP to have much in the way of health officials.  Haiti is probably the worst of the worst...

Pick any facet of medicine, and you'll find it's generally in short supply in the Caribbean nations.

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2006, 07:50:16 AM »
Add-on:  I just went to the NOAA site.  Gulf of Mexico water temperature is just under 87 degrees F.  That's relatively cool for this time of year, by two to three degrees.  That means that hurricane strength would not be as great as it would be were the temperature up around 91 or so.

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2006, 12:44:41 AM »
Haiti has had a series of ongoing conflicts and has been under U.N. occupation; without going through where all the money in Haiti went to over the decades, There is no shortage of money in the Bahamas or many other carribean countries. What they do with it is their problem.

If disaster strikes, and some charitable institutions and wealthy people desire to help they can pay for the extra help from private expertise and services flown or boated in. But I do not see the need for a tax-paid gov organization - especially with our taxes, and we definately do not need it here.

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2006, 03:55:56 AM »
LAK, if you run across a copy of James Michener's "Caribbean", read the Appendices.  Quite illuminating.  

Anyhow, your last comment refers to political philosophy; while I generally agree, the reality is that most of these small-nation governments just plain suck.

Re the Bahamas (and a few others):  One trouble with tourism is that it doesn't put very much money into the hands of the "commoners".  Minimum-wage-level jobs, mostly.  Might be good for casino owners and charter-boat people, but the man in the street is still picking poop with the chickens...

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2006, 01:05:17 AM »
True, the common folk generally scratch for a very low income. The Bahamas is still, even these days, a very upmarket tourist area; low pay for the peasants in the service industry is a moral problem on the part of the corporate business owners.

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