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Fly 320's, Was This You?
« on: November 16, 2013, 09:30:21 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HyBjwI7aps

I saw this on the Smithsonian Channel's "Terror in the Skies" and it's a testament to the strength and durability of aircraft landing gear. I don't think they will be able to reuse the wheels!
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 09:51:05 AM »
Broken tie rod  ???
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 09:55:48 AM »
Quote from: Tallpine on November 16, 2013, 09:51:05 AM
Broken tie rod  ???

The centering cams (or lugs) broke.
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 10:37:07 AM »
it didn't even get down to the axle........
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2013, 10:39:13 AM »
This wouldn't have happened if it had been a taildragger  :P
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2013, 12:49:46 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on November 16, 2013, 10:39:13 AM
This wouldn't have happened if it had been a taildragger  :P

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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2013, 12:56:49 PM »
Probably left a nice gouge down the runway as well.

I'm surprised they didn't reverse thrust as soon as the rear wheels were down. 
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2013, 01:07:59 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on November 16, 2013, 12:56:49 PM
Probably left a nice gouge down the runway as well.

I'm surprised they didn't reverse thrust as soon as the rear wheels were down. 

Just a wild guess, but without nosewheel steering, you really don't want to jump on the thrust reversers, you may end up in the dirt. Long,  controlled rollout slowing with the wheel brakes until you are slow enough to ensure you will stop in a straight line.

 I wish I could find the pictures, I could show you what the mainmounts on a P3 look like if you land with the parking brakes set. After a couple of incidents, ensuring they didn't get set inflight was part of the approach checklist. ;)

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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2013, 01:58:24 PM »
i was guessing they were trying to keep the weight off the front by not braking/thrusting too hard.
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2013, 05:59:01 PM »
Quote from: geronimotwo on November 16, 2013, 01:58:24 PM
i was guessing they were trying to keep the weight off the front by not braking/thrusting too hard.

That's what I was thinking. The harder they braked, wheels or reverse thrust, the harder it would push on the nose of the plane.

I couldn't imagine doing it better, unless maybe Chuck Norris rides in the bed of a drag racing pickup truck and holds it up for them.
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2013, 08:48:09 PM »
Not me. I wasn't involved at all.

Quote from: Sergeant Bob on November 16, 2013, 09:55:48 AM
The centering cams (or lugs) broke.

Close. Installed backwards. That part has been redesigned to prevent that happening again.

Quote from: scout26 on November 16, 2013, 12:56:49 PM
Probably left a nice gouge down the runway as well.

I'm surprised they didn't reverse thrust as soon as the rear wheels were down. 

No gouge, IIRC. That was at LAX and I think the runway was in use just a couple of hours later.  The reversers probably were used as soon as the mains were down, just not used with much power.  Like BobR said, easy does it when you have no idea which way the nose wheel is pointed.

Cool video though.
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2013, 08:49:25 PM »
All the customers in that plane got to watch that landing on live tv, while it happened. Jetblue has live tv in the seats.
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2013, 09:17:59 PM »
JetBlue would've had something else in the seat if I'd been watching my ride do that on live TV.  :O
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2013, 09:19:52 PM »
Quote from: Azrael256 on November 16, 2013, 09:17:59 PM
JetBlue would've had something else in the seat if I'd been watching my ride do that on live TV.  :O

Or the seat cushion would have disappeared.  =D
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2013, 10:04:24 PM »
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2013, 10:34:45 PM »
I think they will need a good balancing when they put new rubber on.
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2013, 11:23:08 PM »
When I first started riding a motorcycle, I remember thinking "Man, that asphalt looks like a big old grinding wheel going by."

Looking at those rims; theory confirmed.  :O

Amazing that the nose-gear could eat that much energy and maintain structural integrity.
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2013, 12:12:57 AM »
There's a video somewhere of a... 3-something where all the tires explode after a rejected take off. Mute the sound and listen to Yakety Sax while watching it.  Hilarious stuff.  The fire crew surviving without pieces of tire through their heads is a miracle.
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2013, 04:30:08 AM »
Quote from: Nick1911 on November 16, 2013, 11:23:08 PM
When I first started riding a motorcycle, I remember thinking "Man, that asphalt looks like a big old grinding wheel going by."

Looking at those rims; theory confirmed.  :O

Amazing that the nose-gear could eat that much energy and maintain structural integrity.

The A320 family can't dump fuel, so the gear are designed to withstand a maximum weight landing.

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Re: Re: Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2013, 08:24:26 AM »
Quote from: Fly320s on November 17, 2013, 04:30:08 AM
The A320 family can't dump fuel, so the gear are designed to withstand a maximum weight landing.

why they decide no fuel.jettison?

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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2013, 08:27:58 AM »
^^^with the price of fuel these days?

Quote from: Nick1911 on November 16, 2013, 11:23:08 PM
When I first started riding a motorcycle, I remember thinking "Man, that asphalt looks like a big old grinding wheel going by."

Looking at those rims; theory confirmed.  :O

Amazing that the nose-gear could eat that much energy and maintain structural integrity.

i was wondering if the rims were magnesium.

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Re: Re: Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2013, 08:39:04 AM »
Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 17, 2013, 08:24:26 AM
why they decide no fuel.jettison?

damn phone

I'm thinking "environmentalists".
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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2013, 10:54:35 AM »
Quote from: Sergeant Bob on November 17, 2013, 08:39:04 AM
I'm thinking "environmentalists".

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Re: Fly 320's, Was This You?
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2013, 11:14:33 AM »
In regards to the original posting, clearly the crew had advance knowledge of the problem.  The question is, how did they know?
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