Author Topic: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.  (Read 5363 times)

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Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« on: April 24, 2014, 07:25:59 PM »
http://www.subguns.com/boards/mgmsg.cgi?read=824459#824459

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Goes into effect July 1 with alot of other pro gun/knife legislation.

Today, April 22, 2014, Governor Sam Brownback signed HB 2578 the CLEO Shall Sign and Comprehensive Preemption legislation. These new laws go in to effect on July 1, 2014. Effective on that date there will no longer be any local control of firearms. All current firearms ordinances will be null and void and all firearms laws will be uniform statewide. Here is a brief summary of what this bill does:

1. Prohibits any city or county from expending funds derived from the proceeds of implementing, administering or operating a firearms buyback program.

2. Preempts any and all local control of firearms and ammunition. No city or county or agent of such will be able to adopt any ordinance, resolution or regulation or take any administrative action governing the purchase, transfer, ownership, storage, carrying on one's person or transporting firearms or ammunition or any component or combination thereof.

3. No city or county or agent of such will be able to adopt any ordinance, resolution or regulation relating to the sale of a firearm by an individual who holds a federal firearms license that is more restrictive than any ordinance or regulation relating to the sale of any other commercial good.

4. Clarifies that no municipality can enact any ordinance, resolution, regulation or tax relating to the transportation, possession, carrying, sale, transfer, purchase, gift, devise, licensing, registration or use of a knife or knife making components. Nullifies all existing past ordinances and prohibits future ones.

5. Prohibits the destruction of seized firearms once they are no longer needed as evidence. They may be traded with other departments and KBI, sold or traded to licensed firearms dealers, used for testing or comparison by the forensics laboratory or given to the Kansas Department of Wildlife Parks and Tourism for use in Hunter Education programs. Payments for transfers will be credited to the asset seizure and forfeiture fund of the seizing agency.

6. If a weapon is seized from an individual and they are not convicted or adjudicated of a crime that prevents firearms ownership, it shall be verified it is not stolen and upon verification returned to the individual from whom it was seized within 30 days.

7. Cleans up the Knife Act from 2013 providing intended prohibition of enforcement of local ordinances passed prior to July 1, 2013 and addresses possession of knives by convicted felons. While daggers, dirks, dangerous knives, straight-edged razors, and stilettos are added back in to the law it is with an express intent and caveat that they are only prohibited for use with the intent to use it against another person unlawfully.

8. Prohibits municipalities from requiring disclosure or making a record of concealed carry permits. Cities and counties are permitted to adopt ordinances, resolutions, or regulations relative to the personnel policies governing concealed carry of handguns by city or county employees, so long as in compliance with this law. The bill requires any such records created by a municipality before the effective date of the bill be destroyed by July 31, 2014.

9. Requires that certification by a chief law enforcement officer (CLEO), when a sign off is required for the transfer of a firearm or other item regulated by the National Firearms Act ("NFA"), be provided within fifteen days as long as the applicant is not prohibited by law from receiving the firearm or other item. NFA type items are suppressors and fully automatic firearms also commonly called Class III firearms.

Pretty awesome stuff because before I remember reading that you had to worry about what the laws were in certain cities.
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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2014, 07:28:30 PM »
Basically targeted the Kansas City, Kansas/Wyandotte County, Johnson County, Wichita and Topkea.  Those three/four areas were/are real liberal hot beds.  Lawrence is also somewhat but not big enough in of itself to do much damage.
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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2014, 08:37:37 PM »
Those are some good-looking laws.  I wish we would have state knife pre-emption laws here in Washington.
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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2014, 02:30:58 AM »
Those are awesome !!!

I wish we had even half of those here in Illinois.


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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2014, 02:43:08 AM »
Well, seeing as the piece of land I happen to own is in the state of Kansas, this is good news.

However, Kansas suffers from the problem of being Republican, not conservative or libertarian.  While our politicians have defended individual liberty, individual rights and property rights reasonably well, they are still hung up on the victimless social issues of the religious right - homosexuals, recreational drugs, abortions etc.  Makes it hard to be fully in support of my legislature.

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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2014, 12:01:12 PM »
Well, seeing as the piece of land I happen to own is in the state of Kansas, this is good news.

However, Kansas suffers from the problem of being Republican, not conservative or libertarian.  While our politicians have defended individual liberty, individual rights and property rights reasonably well, they are still hung up on the victimless social issues of the religious right - homosexuals, recreational drugs, abortions etc.  Makes it hard to be fully in support of my legislature.
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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2014, 04:26:35 PM »
I'm envious.  It would almost make up for the fact that you are living in Kansas.  =D

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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2014, 11:16:19 PM »
I'm envious.  It would almost make up for the fact that you are living in Kansas.  =D



Still a Kansas resident, still paying Kansas state taxes :mad:, but I'm stationed in San Diego. I refuse to allow myself to be considered a California resident.
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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 03:39:41 PM »
We lived one winter in Garden City.  Wasn't terribly impressed with the place.

Nice folks, but nobody walks anywhere.  When we tried to talk a walk, twenty dozen people in cars/pickups would stop and offer us a ride.  ;/
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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2014, 01:14:15 AM »
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  9. Requires that certification by a chief law enforcement officer (CLEO), when a sign off is required for the transfer of a firearm or other item regulated by the National Firearms Act ("NFA"), be provided within fifteen days as long as the applicant is not prohibited by law from receiving the firearm or other item. NFA type items are suppressors and fully automatic firearms also commonly called Class III firearms.   

Every NFA-friendly state is going to need this law if rule 41p aimed at invalidating the utility of trusts survives legal challenges.  =|
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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2014, 01:34:16 AM »
Every NFA-friendly state is going to need this law if rule 41p aimed at invalidating the utility of trusts survives legal challenges.  =|

You know, when I did my first NFA transfer, I took it to the city cops first.

After a lengthy delay, it was mailed back to me - unsigned.  The cover letter on department stationary, addressed from and signed by the chief of police said "I decline to sign this form."

So I took it to the Sheriff, who after reviewing my record had no problem signing.

For my next NFA deal, I think I'll have to go back to the city cops... There will be some justice in seeing his signature on a NFA form.

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Re: Looks like Kansas just got a bunch of pro-gun/knife laws.
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2014, 07:04:15 AM »
Well, seeing as the piece of land I happen to own is in the state of Kansas, this is good news.

However, Kansas suffers from the problem of being Republican, not conservative or libertarian.  While our politicians have defended individual liberty, individual rights and property rights reasonably well, they are still hung up on the victimless social issues of the religious right - homosexuals, recreational drugs, abortions etc.  Makes it hard to be fully in support of my legislature.

Nick the state as a whole is Republican but the hell holes of Johnson County, Wyandotte County (home), and Sedwick County are Democrat strongholds, such the reason the state is so FUBARED on a lot of things.  Probably one of the best examples of true compromise across so everyone isn't happy.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2014, 05:27:20 PM »
Believe it or not, there is a Democrat majority stronghold county here in Wisconsin where the Democrat Sheriff signs off on NFA forms.

He thinks there's a non-zero chance of a "right wing coup or insurgency" and wants the people of his county to be well armed if they are so inclined.  [tinfoil]

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