Island for sale. New APS base of operations?

[RevDisk]

The Spanish farms would be a good vacation spot, but continental Europe isn't a place I'd base my operations.

Belize is a good choice.  English as its official language, it's reasonably close to America, low population density, friendly terms with the UK, a small but UK-trained military, long guns are restricted and pistols require a permit (but can be obtained easily with some cash).

Costa Rica would be nicer, but prices higher. Firearm laws in CR are much friendlier, but fairly restricted for non-citizens or permanent residents. OTOH, there's tons of private security companies and it's not hard to set one up. From the sound of it, you could buy some property, set up a corporation for that property (say, APS Resort LLC), set up a security company (APS Resort Security Inc), give a local national a 51% stake in APS-RS Inc and get normal firearms at inflated prices but without having to bribe anyone. Costa Rica healthcare is as good or better than the US on average, no anti-vaccination movement. They do have a national carry permit, again, only for citizens or permanent residents.

[HankB]

. . . BTW - does anybody know the Italian statutes of limitations for currency crimes?  (In case you are wondering why I inquire - Nunya bizznez!)

Doesn't Italy have some laws on taking your own stuff - money, art, whatever - out of the country?

[Jamisjockey]

The Spanish farms would be a good vacation spot, but continental Europe isn't a place I'd base my operations.

Belize is a good choice.  English as its official language, it's reasonably close to America, low population density, friendly terms with the UK, a small but UK-trained military, long guns are restricted and pistols require a permit (but can be obtained easily with some cash).

Costa Rica would be nicer, but prices higher. Firearm laws in CR are much friendlier, but fairly restricted for non-citizens or permanent residents. OTOH, there's tons of private security companies and it's not hard to set one up. From the sound of it, you could buy some property, set up a corporation for that property (say, APS Resort LLC), set up a security company (APS Resort Security Inc), give a local national a 51% stake in APS-RS Inc and get normal firearms at inflated prices but without having to bribe anyone. Costa Rica healthcare is as good or better than the US on average, no anti-vaccination movement. They do have a national carry permit, again, only for citizens or permanent residents.

Certain places I'd consider expating to or becoming a dualie for, and CR is one of them.  At least when I hit the lotto.

[Tallpine]

If it wasn't for gun laws, I'd leave the USSA.

[RevDisk]

If it wasn't for gun laws, I'd leave the USSA.

New Zealand and Australia are the only decent places left, and they can be interesting as well. There is no libertarian utopia, anywhere. Statists as far as the eye can see and the ship can sail. Scum and villainy, most countries, including our own.

[Scout26]

New Zealand and Australia are the only decent places left, and they can be interesting as well. There is no libertarian utopia, anywhere. Statists as far as the eye can see and the ship can sail. Scum and villainy, most countries, including our own.

Can we do as Claire Wolf suggests?  Or perhaps asone of our very one posters here recommends ("Time to hoist the black Flag and begin slitting throats.)

[TommyGunn]

I would like the NSA to note, as they read through this thread, that I, for one, am thinking nice peaceful thoughts about our overlords   this country's fine government.

[lupinus]

Can we do as Claire Wolf suggests?  Or perhaps asone of our very one posters here recommends ("Time to hoist the black Flag and begin slitting throats.)

Between all the membership here we've gotta have enough fire power to take a small tropical island paradise somewhere and have our own banana Republic.

[Tallpine]

New Zealand and Australia are the only decent places left, and they can be interesting as well. There is no libertarian utopia, anywhere. Statists as far as the eye can see and the ship can sail. Scum and villainy, most countries, including our own.

Can we do as Claire Wolf suggests?  Or perhaps asone of our very one posters here recommends ("Time to hoist the black Flag and begin slitting throats.)

If it was just me, I might sell the ranch and buy a sailboat.  Still, you have to have one or more ports from which to re-supply and repair. 

Not sure if there's still some remote enough places that you could land without observing the formalities 

[Hawkmoon]

Not sure if there's still some remote enough places that you could land without observing the formalities  

Which is why it's not enough to buy an island that's in some country. We need to buy an island that IS a country. Then we get to make the laws.

Didn't Raymond Burr (Perry Mason / Ironside) buy his own island country somewhere out in the Pacific Ocean when he retired? Or am I confusing him with some other actor?

[TommyGunn]

Which is why it's not enough to buy an island that's in some country. We need to buy an island that IS a country. Then we get to make the laws.

Didn't Raymond Burr (Perry Mason / Ironside) buy his own island country somewhere out in the Pacific Ocean when he retired? Or am I confusing him with some other actor?

Yes he did; while he was still a working actor.  I believe he sold the island when he retired.

In 1965, Burr purchased the Naitauba, a 4,000 acres (16 km2) island in Fiji, rich in seashells. There, he and Benevides oversaw the raising of copra (coconut meat) and cattle, as well as orchids.[51][62] They spent two months a year there, and Burr planned to retire there permanently. However, medical problems made that impossible and he sold the property in 1983.[63]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Burr

[Tallpine]

Burr planned to retire there permanently. However, medical problems made that impossible

Last I remember, he was in a wheelchair 



4000 acres isn't all that big 

[TommyGunn]

Last I remember, he was in a wheelchair 



4000 acres isn't all that big 

That's called acting.

[freakazoid]

Last I remember, he was in a wheelchair 

 

If it was just me, I might sell the ranch and buy a sailboat.  Still, you have to have one or more ports from which to re-supply and repair. 

Not sure if there's still some remote enough places that you could land without observing the formalities 

One thing I've wondered is if you buy a sailboat, or plane, can you just sail wherever you want and dock?

[Fly320s]

One thing I've wondered is if you buy a sailboat, or plane, can you just sail wherever you want and dock?

You still have to be allowed entry into the country. And not all airports are open to general aviation.

[Fly320s]

You still have to be allowed entry into the country.

Which reminds me of my last trip to Montego Bay, Jamaica.

We "returned" a man to Jamaica. He was denied entry into the US the previous day, and because we were the airline that flew him to the US, we had to take him back to Jamaica. It was a non-event, but I was surprised when two ICE officers escorted him onto the plane.

[Tallpine]

You still have to be allowed entry into the country. And not all airports are open to general aviation.

I'm thinking that there may still be a few small sea ports (fishing villages) where the regulations are somewhat "relaxed."

It probably helps if you have a few gifts for the local constable.

One reason I prefer "traditional" sailboats is that you could pretty much fix anything in the rigging with rope, cloth, or a bit of wood - in contrast to modern rigs where you have to special order just a certain part from who knows where 

[Jamisjockey]

Last I remember, he was in a wheelchair 



4000 acres isn't all that big 

Big enough.  I could escape for a long time on a 4000 acre island.

[red headed stranger]

Can we do as Claire Wolf suggests?  Or perhaps asone of our very one posters here recommends ("Time to hoist the black Flag and begin slitting throats.)

More and more, this is looking like the best option:

[230RN]

Aren't there international maritime laws severely restricting firearms on board vessels and entry into ports with guns?

I recall seeing a long thread on this related to pirates on this subject... even here on APS?

Actually, I'm thinking it would be great to have a huge flying boat for commuting to our island --to carry all the guns and ammunition.

[Tallpine]

Big enough.  I could escape for a long time on a 4000 acre island.

That's 2.5 miles square.  But it's probably a lot more fertile than Montana.

Aren't there international maritime laws severely restricting firearms on board vessels and entry into ports with guns?

I recall seeing a long thread on this related to pirates on this subject... even here on APS?

Actually, I'm thinking it would be great to have a huge flying boat for commuting to our island --to carry all the guns and ammunition.

Where we're going, we don't need any laws 

[Jamisjockey]

Being surrounded by tropical saltwater in itself makes a great food source.

[Scout26]

Cows and Pigs can swim?

 

[bedlamite]

Being surrounded by tropical saltwater in itself makes a great food source.

[TommyGunn]

Cows and Pigs can swim?

 

Yes, they can, but unfortunatly, giraffes can't.